[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-03 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
This is the stuff I mentioned previously: http://www.campmor.com/birkenstock-cork-life-2-oz.shtml?source=CI&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=91642WC If it's just a couple threads popping up on the sidewall, it seals 'em down real well. Slop some on both sides and boot it if there's a concern. Tyvex USPS P

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-03 Thread Mike S
That's interesting, I actually find the Marathon Supreme 35mm's to be really zippy on my QB, more so than the Jack Browns I had on at first. That might just be the $138/pair premium biasing my perception though... The Schwalbes really are solid tires, especially in the wet and considering the toug

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread Mike
I've complained about problems with Paselas and JB sidewalls a bunch here. I don't see myself going back to either tire in the future. Right now all my bikes have Marathons of various sizes. The QB has Marathon Supremes. When the Hilsen is back on the road I'm hoping to put some Duremes on it. Even

Re: [RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 2, 2011, at 12:31 PM, William wrote: > "I had to force myself to remount them to wear them > out" > > That's a strange neurosis, isn't it? I love stocking up on stuff, I > love getting rid of stuff, but I can't stand getting rid of something > that has any utility left. I'm wearing shoe

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread William
"I had to force myself to remount them to wear them out" That's a strange neurosis, isn't it? I love stocking up on stuff, I love getting rid of stuff, but I can't stand getting rid of something that has any utility left. I'm wearing shoes today that I don't really like all that much so I can we

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread NickBull
One more datapoint: I've ridden over 45,000 miles over the last seven years on Panaracer tires. Most of those were on Pasela (Non- Tourguard's) 700x32's, a few thousand on Pasela Tourguard 700x32's, a few thousand were on Grand Bois Cypres 700x30's, a few thousand were on TServ's or Urban Max's

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread numbnuts
Steve - Then I can only add that YMMV. For me they are no better at defeating the urban track than , say, Conti GP3/4000s - in 28s. And less than Conti Gator Skins - also in 28s. Beyond that, who knows..maybe random acts of whoknowswhat, and other stuff too. I didn't say I didn't like them, but

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread dan gee
I've used paselas on lousy Pennsylvania roads and never had a sidewall issue - and they've always been fine for defeating glass and the like with a Mr. Tuffy strip on the rear. I always ride them at max or near- max pressure, though - are those who have had sidewall problems been running them reall

Re: [RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 07:18 -0700, numbnuts wrote: > hey (paselas) were always good enough for light > trail duty in the area of Riv HQ. I expect any urban environment would > chew them up pretty quick. I commuted on Paselas for at least 5 years in downtown Washington DC, which certainly qualifie

Re: [RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 07:18 -0700, numbnuts wrote: > In all seriousness, the Pasela sidewalls seem to be about as > tough as other nice riding and rolling road tires. This means that > they are woefully inadequate as a 'trail' tire in this neck of the > woods. What neck of the woods is that? -

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread numbnuts
I once ran over an empty vodka bottle and tore open the sidewall, and tube, of a brand new Pasela, non TG, 28. It is the only catastrophic sidewall failure (30 years) that I can't at least partially attribute to age. In all seriousness, the Pasela sidewalls seem to be about as tough as other nice r

Re: [RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 03:25 -0700, EricP wrote: > > You may be onto something with the last bit. Have always wondered if > the sidewall issue is more common with the folding bead version. > Pretty sure I had a pair of non folding bead Paselas that didn't have > an issue. > I've never had a fold

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-02 Thread EricP
Tim, You may be onto something with the last bit. Have always wondered if the sidewall issue is more common with the folding bead version. Pretty sure I had a pair of non folding bead Paselas that didn't have an issue. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 1, 10:19 pm, Tim McNamara wrote: > My experi

Re: [RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread Rex Kerr
I had a pair of 32s on my Schwinn that I ran at 80 PSI, which lasted about 3500 miles without a single flat before I tore a sidewall when I crashed the bike on a storm drain. They were my favorite tires I've ever had. I have 700x35 Marathons (measure closer to 38) on my Trek 520 and absolutely ha

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread Beth H
So far I've had no trouble with my Paselas, but I'm running 26 x 1.5's. Perhaps the 700's are more problematic? I like the Marathons for heavy-dut stuff -- I'm using some 26 x 1.75's on my Big Dummy -- but for regular street riding the Paselas seem fine after three years of almost daily use. -- Y

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread charlie
I once hit a rock between the size of an olive and a walnut and it cut the sidewall of a 27" Paselaruined the tire and I had about 3 miles on it at the time. I ordered another tire and the pair lasted around 3000 miles. I have had really good luck with the Urban Max Panaracer tiresthese are

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread Bill M.
I'm moving to the 32 mm Vittoria Randonneur Hyper. I have a pair in and mounted on Velocity Aerohead rims, but have not been able to ride them yet. They weighed in at 364 gm, and measure around 32.5 mm wide after a few days at pressure. They *just* fit in my '95 Riv Road Standard. 32 mm Pasela

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread Leslie
I had Pasela 32s on my Ram. Started riding them last spring; late summer, got a cut on the sidewall. Tried to boot it w/ mylar cut from a mailer, was fine for a few more rides, but started squeezing the tube through the cut. Over the winter, didn't ride much, but picked up a pair of RuffyTuffys

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread EricP
I've had issues with Pasela tan sidewalls. The last pair of 37s I had developed really bad cracks. No failure, but it was bad enough that I replaced the tires. My LBS had some black sidewall (wire bead) Paselas. Have used them on my Sam Hillborne when I want a skinny tire. Those have worked ju

Re: [RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 15:50 -0700, scott wrote: > "Marathon, 32-622 / 28 x 1.25 / 700 x 32c 21oz $ 37.00" > Those are the ones. > > Steve: I some folks have never had issues, others have sworn them off > from bad experiences. I think location, time of year, maybe weight all > might be factors, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread cyclotourist
In my experience w/ Paselas over the last 15 years or so, they have been the best tires I can find (light, roll great, cheap), but are prone to sidewall problems. They are much lighter and livelier than Marathons (total dogs, YMMV) and when I can get them on sale for $15 each, I don't mind the lon

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread scott
"Marathon, 32-622 / 28 x 1.25 / 700 x 32c 21oz $ 37.00" Those are the ones. Steve: I some folks have never had issues, others have sworn them off from bad experiences. I think location, time of year, maybe weight all might be factors, but I stopped using them after two sidewall failures in a week

Re: [RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 15:12 -0700, Philip Williamson wrote: > I have had the same sidewall experience as you with the Pasela, but > have been very happy with other Panaracer tires, like the Fire XC Pro I have 32mm Paselas that are now in their 3rd year, having seen three winters on my VO Randonneu

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread Philip Williamson
I have had the same sidewall experience as you with the Pasela, but have been very happy with other Panaracer tires, like the Fire XC Pro, still going strong on my mountain bike after three years. I'm considering 37mm Schwalbe Marathon Supremes for the Quickbeam, but at $70 each, it won't be soon.

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread Mike S
Are you talking about the 4th model down on Peter White's listing of Schwalbe tires here?: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schwalbe.asp $37/ea seems like a good deal for these. I will never buy a Panaracer product again for sure... On May 1, 5:56 pm, scott wrote: > Gave up on Paselas because of

[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-01 Thread scott
Gave up on Paselas because of the weak sidewall. Go to Schwalbe Marathon 32mm. Mine measure 32mm on a Velocity Dyad rim. S. On May 1, 4:34 pm, Mike S wrote: > I've had a set of the 32mm Panaracer Paselas that Riv used to sell on > a bike of mine for about one year and less than 750 miles, and