Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-13 Thread GAJett
Amen to that. We can all find what works for us. BTW, I love the way Steve set the gearing on his two smallest cogs. Brilliant! Something I will keep in mind going forward. Cheers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubs

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-13 Thread Garth
I do believe the takeaway here is there are many different ways to gear a bicycle. No limits ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/12/2017 09:01 PM, GAJett wrote: "Crossover Gearing This refers to a derailer gear system in which the jumps between chainwheel sizes are approximately the same as the jumps between adjacent rear sprockets. This type of gear setup provides a particularly simple shifting pattern, req

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread GAJett
"Crossover Gearing This refers to a derailer gear system in which the jumps between chainwheel sizes are approximately the same as the jumps between adjacent rear sprockets. This type of gear setup provides a particularly simple shifting pattern, requiring no double shifting at all, but at t

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
It seems that all the 7 speed combinations are still available. That's not the case with 8, where many of the original combinations are no longer being offered. I'm personally very pleased that after many years of unavailability, the 12-32 8 speed that was originally issued as an XTR has been

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread Garth
Steve, Shimano makes a 13-34( plus others)) 7 speed in the HG-50 series now. They seem to be widely available worldwide, USA and Europe at least. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#7cassettes On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:55:03 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > Not only t

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/12/2017 05:39 PM, GAJett wrote: Absolutely LOVE half-step+grannys. Think of them as a wide-range double where you can fine-tune your top gears. WAY too much to go in to right now but can't be beat. Frankly, I can't understand the "standard" 10-tooth defaults used for years. For crosso

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread GAJett
WADAYA MEAN Comic Relief😀 Looks like my cranksets! Newer one on my AHH is a 44/41/24 x 12-36 9-spd. 40-year old+ one on my Raleigh Comp a 49/46/26 x 13-26 6-spd. Absolutely LOVE half-step+grannys. Think of them as a wide-range double where you can fine-tune your top gears. WAY too much to go i

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread lconley
I changed a lot of parts over the years. About 10 years ago I decided to restore it and started looking for original parts and could not find the Schwinn branded rear derailleur anywhere and ended up buying a 2nd 73 Paramount, that had all the original parts that mine was missing, but had Sunto

[RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread 'Beaverton Bob' via RBW Owners Bunch
I am learning a lot today. Have been riding for some time, but aside from vintage 10-speeds, I started riding with 8 speed indexed already. Thank you all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/12/2017 04:27 PM, lconley wrote: I still have my 73 Paramount with 36-49-54 Campy triple crank and 14-31 Regina Oro freewheel. Amazing. Mine was a 72. By 1973 the LBS had already destroyed the Regina Oro freewheel trying to get it off, and I'd moved on to SunTours. How'd you make a

[RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread lconley
I still have my 73 Paramount with 36-49-54 Campy triple crank and 14-31 Regina Oro freewheel. On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 4:06:24 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > > Half step plus gearing is great ! I used to run a 24/44/48 with 13-32 7 > sp. FW on one of my bikes. Since I still have the same FW's

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/12/2017 04:06 PM, Garth wrote: Half step plus gearing is great ! I used to run a 24/44/48 with 13-32 7 sp. FW on one of my bikes. I had exactly the same crank setup with a 7 speed 13-34 cassette. It was very nice, but honestly these days crossover arrangements have left HSG behin

[RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread Garth
Half step plus gearing is great ! I used to run a 24/44/48 with 13-32 7 sp. FW on one of my bikes. Since I still have the same FW's I may run it again if I get another bike that can take a large middle ring. Perspective is funny, since I am quite familiar with gear that used to be 5,6 and

[RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread Jim M.
I had a Trek 620, which is what the listed crank came from. 50-45-28 was a great touring combination, actually. I'd set up a touring bike that way again. jim m walnut creek On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-7, Beaverton Bob wrote: > > https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bop/6172833571

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
The fun 2017 thing to do is grind all the teeth off the big ring. Now it's a chain guard and you've got a supercompact double. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
half-step plus granny, not all that weird in and of itself. Not sure exactly how many teeth different, but if you want to half-step a pretty tight gear set to get super fine gears, that's how you would do it. On 06/12/2017 03:26 PM, 'Beaverton Bob' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: *Should have sa

[RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread lconley
It is called a half step plus granny. Back when you only had 5 or 6 cogs on the rear, you wanted all of them to count, so you set up the two big front chainrings to be able to split the difference between any of the rear cogs. For example, if the rears were 12% apart, the fronts were 6% apart.

[RBW] Re: Comic Relief: CLOSE-RANGE crankset

2017-06-12 Thread 'Beaverton Bob' via RBW Owners Bunch
*Should have said, look closely AT THE SECOND PICTURE. Hint: It's a TRIPLE!* On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-7, Beaverton Bob wrote: > > https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bop/6172833571.html > > Hope the link works! Look closely to appreciate what I think is a VERY > close-range