On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:17 PM, james black wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 20:44, cyclotourist
> wrote:
> > While I think that sounds like the perfect tire, how many non touring or
> > hybrid bikers are out there that can accommodate that size? Even among
> > Rivendell's lineup, the lighter
When Beth speaks, I listen. Times are hard. New product development
expensive, risky. RBW recognized a way to revive frames with narrow
clearances, to be used with fenders and bigger tires, and championed
the 650B wheel diameter. And, tiny but savvy groups of connoisseurs in
France, Japan, and a fe
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 21:18, Jim Cloud wrote:
> I stand by my comment that the traditional 650B size tire, as it was
> used by the French was generally for "loaded touring bikes" - which
> they often referred to as the "Camping" model. If some today are
> using the size for a Randonneur, so be
I'm sure that we're not going to find an agreement on the RBW Owner's
Group site.. I think, however, that this snip I took from Sheldon
Brown's site pertaining to various sizes of tires that are available
relates to my statement about the 650B tire size.
"584 mm, 650B, is the focus of this articl
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 20:44, cyclotourist wrote:
> While I think that sounds like the perfect tire, how many non touring or
> hybrid bikers are out there that can accommodate that size? Even among
> Rivendell's lineup, the lighter weight bikes (Roadeo, Rambouillet) wouldn't
> be able to run tha
While I think that sounds like the perfect tire, how many non touring or
hybrid bikers are out there that can accommodate that size? Even among
Rivendell's lineup, the lighter weight bikes (Roadeo, Rambouillet) wouldn't
be able to run that size. You would need to get a Sam or an Atlantis. Not
su
Forgot to mention why the wire bead versions may be less desirable:
not because I am a weight weenie, but because the added weight of the
wire bead increases the gyroscopic force enough to impact the handling
negatively (making the bike harder to turn, and the line through
corners harder to adjust;
I would guess that even in the tiny niche of riders who love combined
road/dirt rides, there are more 700C bikes than 650B out there. While
Jan Heine claims that tires in the 33-44mm range or so handle best in
a 650B size (see BQ Spring 2010, p. 19), I would love to see a light,
supple 38-40/700C t
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 18:42 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote:
>
> On Aug 15, 3:19 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> >
>
> > There's no Consumer Reports of bike tires, either. So if there was a
> > diamond out there amongst all the hybrid tires, who would ever know it?
>
> Well, I think that Jan Heine has don
Michael,
I believe Grant recently posted that he would make larger Atlantis
sizes as a special order.
I own a 64cm Atlantis and love it!
Angus
On Aug 15, 1:31 pm, MichaelH wrote:
> Over the years, Rivendell has trimmed its offering of larger sizes,
> independent of tire size. They don't offer
Allow me to add my slightly more-informed two cents and say that I
would also agree. My [wholesale] distros are telling me that few of
them plan to widen their variety of 650b offerings for next year
because demand has fallen off among specialty shops and their
customers; and that demand never real
Marty,
What good luck!
I like the picture of the factory pouring out black smoke...not
something we would advertise today :-)
Enjoy the unique home!
Angus
On Aug 15, 2:06 pm, Marty wrote:
> Link to the proof here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/23gk9au
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David,
If it were me, and it's not, but if it were...I wouldn't worry about
it too much. Rims wear much more when things are wet, on-road or
off. I clean and check the rims/brakes after riding in the wet to get
out all the stuff embedded in the brake pads.
I have a Sun Rhino-Lite rim on a MTB t
If you gotta' live somewhere, might as well be in a (former) bike factory!
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Marty wrote:
> Link to the proof here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/23gk9au
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On Aug 15, 3:19 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> There's no Consumer Reports of bike tires, either. So if there was a
> diamond out there amongst all the hybrid tires, who would ever know it?
Well, I think that Jan Heine has done a pretty good job of testing
bicycle tires and this has certainly
I think I recall from way back that they said the forks were going to
be made by Toyo, so maybe the frames and the forks come together there
and then on to WC. I really can't recall what the logistics were, or
if they were ever talked about. Not sure it even matters. It's a world
frame for sure.
M
Waterford and Toyo? Wow, that's a lot of changes. I thought it was
going to be a Taiwan frame.
On Aug 15, 3:44 pm, Marty wrote:
> To save a call, I happened to get an Email from Grant this weekend,
> and he mentioned that they would be ready in September. I can't say -
> and he didn't say - how
The 58cm Betty Foy takes 650B, is a super bike, and would easily fit a
6'0" or 6'1" dude. I'm only half joking. Maybe not even half. With
drop bars on a dirt drop stem, that would be a super touing/rando
bike. Only one water bottle cage but otherwise would have everything
you need.
On Aug 15,
First, thanks to all who have shared their experience, observations and
advice.
Here are the brake pads:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4892840374/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4892244553/
I removed the tire and rim tape and closely inspected the rim. I saw no
signs of even tiny cra
To save a call, I happened to get an Email from Grant this weekend,
and he mentioned that they would be ready in September. I can't say -
and he didn't say - how long to get into the ship mode once they have
them, so I would not expect a 9-1 box at your door if you're on the
list. Paint is still to
On Aug 15, 8:35 am, Jim wrote:
> What is the current estimated time of arrival of the Hunqua?
Probably best to give Rivendell a call directly on Monday morning.
They'll have pretty much the official word on it.
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I am 6'1" and ride a 63 CM frame copied from a 1940s Rene Herse. I
selected 650b for the bike because even with such a large frame, 650b
is the only way to get 42mm tires with fenders and no toe clip
overlap. (I know Grant says overlap is no big deal, and he's right,
but if I can have everything I
What is the current estimated time of arrival of the Hunqua?
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On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 15:08 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote:
> Steve,
> I guess this discussion merits another on the subject of the
> availability of 700C size tires that are designed around the
> parameters of the Gran Bois Hetre or Pacenti Pari-Moto (wide
> [38-42mm], supple sidewalls, lightweight and wi
Steve,
I guess this discussion merits another on the subject of the
availability of 700C size tires that are designed around the
parameters of the Gran Bois Hetre or Pacenti Pari-Moto (wide
[38-42mm], supple sidewalls, lightweight and with fine herringbone
tread patterns). Why doesn't anyone make
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 19:20 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Why are 650B tires better rolling and smoother than 700c tires, all
> things else being equal? If I understand wheels, the bigger the
> diameter, the smoother the ride.
All things are not equal. Compare just about any 700C x 38 tire with a
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 05:05 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > I always thought of 584/650B as a way to get more tire in the right
> > frame size with all the right clearances for fenders, etc. more than
> > any other reason.
>
> Most likely the case. Combination of the market that makes up the
> 650
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 06:47 -0700, MichaelH wrote:
> I think this is right. I don't think Grant has "retreated" from 650B
> for larger sizes. He has always argued in favor of wider road tires,
> 28-35 mm, and that it is easier to achieve that on small frames with a
> 584 rim diameter because the
Two distinct but complementary phenomena. The "larger sizes" I was
speaking of in the context of Riv retreating from 650B in larger sizes
are sizes above 52 cm (e.g., the Hillborne comes in 650B only in 48 and
52 cm). 54-60 cm don't constitute "large" sizes for outlier huge
people, these constitu
On Aug 15, 10:29 am, RoadieRyan wrote:
> Is it possible the "retreat" from larger sized 650b is simply a
> business decision? I get the impression, no hard facts, that there is
> less demand for larger sizes, especially over say 62 cm, than the mid-
> range, so it would follow that demand large
Link to the proof here:
http://tinyurl.com/23gk9au
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I'm new to Chicago, and rented a place in what I thought was the old
Dr. Scholls factory in Old Town. Nice brick building, beamed ceilings
etc. Even had a bike lift in my place when I moved in. Found out today
that before the Doctor, it was home to Western Wheel Works - maker of
Crescent bicycles,
Very enjoyable! Thanks.
On Aug 15, 4:37 am, Marty wrote:
> I'm way late with this, but here's a link to my set of photos from
> this year's Cirque in Leesburg VA. Plenty of Singer, Herse, Witcomb,
> Weigle, classic Italian, etc., etc.This is a great show for anyone who
> loves the Golden Age, and
Over the years, Rivendell has trimmed its offering of larger sizes,
independent of tire size. They don't offer anything equivalent to the
Redwood, which went to 68, and have stopped offering the Atlantis in
even a 64. I don't own an Atlantis but if it came in a 64, I would be
tempted.
michael
On
its the VO 118mm BB.
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Is it possible the "retreat" from larger sized 650b is simply a
business decision? I get the impression, no hard facts, that there is
less demand for larger sizes, especially over say 62 cm, than the mid-
range, so it would follow that demand larger sizes spec'd for a "non
traditional" wheel size
Classy setup, Jason. I think fellow lister Nathan has used Albatross
bars with a handlebar bag and standard size front rack (no decauler,
though):
http://tinyurl.com/23o7aft
Btw, what size bottom bracket are you using with those cranks on the
Bleriot?
Happy Sunday,
Lee
On Aug 14, 4:04 pm, jand
We're having dates, times and routes under discussion right now.
Check out the conversation and see if you can fit a great ride with some
even greater people into your schedule!
http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157624523700361/
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Cheers,
David
On 14 Aug, 03:53, "carnerda...@bellsouth.net"
wrote:
> My 650B Sam Hillborne has Velocity Synergy rims and Shimano Deore V-
> brakes with the pads that came on them. Since new the front wheel has
> had a little tick with each revolution while braking. I assumed this
> was a slightly raised join
I think this is right. I don't think Grant has "retreated" from 650B
for larger sizes. He has always argued in favor of wider road tires,
28-35 mm, and that it is easier to achieve that on small frames with a
584 rim diameter because the 622 size forces unwanted compromises on
the frame design.
Good to see this. I don't have one, but do have a 26" wheel 58cm
LHT. When Surly went with that option, boy, was there a lot of
griping on the Surly list. Still are quite a few folks who don't like
it.
Then again, my dream bike would probably be a custom 61cm Atlantis for
26" wheels. Yeah, tha
Will agree with Tim, that the o/p should check his brake pads.
However, will also agree with David Craig and suggest the person also
pull the tire, tube and rim strip and make sure there are no cracks in
the rim with that wear. Had two Velocity rims crack internally, so am
more paranoid about them
> I always thought of 584/650B as a way to get more tire in the right
> frame size with all the right clearances for fenders, etc. more than
> any other reason.
Most likely the case. Combination of the market that makes up the
650b owners being overall more aware of what makes a good tire and
wil
I'm way late with this, but here's a link to my set of photos from
this year's Cirque in Leesburg VA. Plenty of Singer, Herse, Witcomb,
Weigle, classic Italian, etc., etc.This is a great show for anyone who
loves the Golden Age, and the current builders who carry on the craft.
Enjoy!
http://tinyur
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