[RBW] Re: My "old" Hillborne

2010-03-03 Thread oldmangabe
129mm approx, that is what I had to do for my Atlantis. Especially if the stays are bowed out (like Atlantis). SKF has one that might work, or you can find an old UN-72, or a TA Axix. Of course there is always Phil Wood. Gabe On Mar 3, 10:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I know what you felt. I en

Re: [RBW] My "old" Hillborne

2010-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
Hi Ray, great write up and photos of the evolution of Sam! On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Way Rebb wrote: > Hello, > > You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this. I thought I'd > share some pics of my "old" Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, > the pics, skip the story: > > http

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

2010-03-03 Thread Aaron Thomas
>From what I recall, the smaller frame sizes use heat-treated OS tubing with .6/.38/.6. butts and bellies. My memory is not so good on the larger frame sizes, but something like OS .8/.5/.8 seems to ring a bell (but don't quote me on it). Grant outlined it in a post on this list, but I cannot fin

Re: [RBW] My "old" Hillborne

2010-03-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I know what you felt. I ended up buying that Hillsen floor model. > >> >> >> Of course I didn't say what I meant; I meant "Hillborne". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] My "old" Hillborne

2010-03-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I know what you felt. I ended up buying that Hillsen floor model. Great bike. Tho' I am seriously thinking of replacing with 160 mm Q Sugino with a narrower crank -- and possibly the B17 which, though comfortable, has to be a bit high-nosed, which causes its own problems. We'll see. Question for y

Re: [RBW] My "old" Hillborne

2010-03-03 Thread Brian Hanson
Great photo story, Ray! I love the fun of experimenting with different builds - tires/bags/etc... It seems like Rivs are the perfect bikes to morph into many great rides. All rounders, all the way! Brian (currently contemplating build #3 or 4? on his AHH) Seattle On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM

[RBW] My "old" Hillborne

2010-03-03 Thread Way Rebb
Hello, You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this. I thought I'd share some pics of my "old" Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, the pics, skip the story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/ Way back in 1982 or '83 I purchased a brand spanking new Lotus Ecl

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

2010-03-03 Thread rperks
The tubing on the larger roadeos is still a bit of a mystery. 59 and up are "a touch heavier" for what that is worth. When I ordered mine they explained that it was quite similar to a Legolas, but possibly lighter in the stays and fork because they do not have to braze on brake bosses. As for th

Re: [RBW] Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

2010-03-03 Thread donald compton
i don't have any tech info regarding tubing. but, i sold my 60cm rambouillet and later bought a roadeo. the ram was overbuilt for my riding. the fit was perfect. the roadeo fits my riding. it just feels better on club rides( fast up short hills ). the stability of the ram is not missing. sincere

Re: [RBW] Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

2010-03-03 Thread James Warren
I do know that whatever the answer is, it might be different for the larger size Roadeo. Someone at Rivendell would be able to answer if you call them. -Original Message- >From: reynoldslugs >Sent: Mar 3, 2010 11:12 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Tubesets: Rambouillet v Road

[RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction

2010-03-03 Thread rcnute
Website says $3K. And if the person who I think bought it bought it, this is but one more addition to a very nice fleet 'o Rivs. Ryan On Mar 3, 12:25 pm, Anthony Castellino wrote: > Do we know the final bid? > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:11 AM, William wrote: > > ...and now Riv confirms the de

Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction

2010-03-03 Thread Anthony Castellino
Do we know the final bid? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:11 AM, William wrote: > ...and now Riv confirms the decision-making: > > "but after one or two bikes go out to cheap, we're probably going > to post some others on eBay. Because basicallywe're after > sustainability" > > So they are not

Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction

2010-03-03 Thread Anthony Castellino
Wow, 3K, that is a deal...! On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Anthony Castellino < rubiconmanagem...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do we know the final bid? > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:11 AM, William wrote: > >> ...and now Riv confirms the decision-making: >> >> "but after one or two bikes go out t

Re: [RBW] Atlantis Rondo.

2010-03-03 Thread Dustin Sharp
Looks great! How long is that stem? Dustin > From: muckum > Reply-To: > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:10:46 -0800 (PST) > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Atlantis Rondo. > > Wanted to share a few recent "tweeks" to the Atlantis. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/721576234

[RBW] Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

2010-03-03 Thread reynoldslugs
Curious whether the butts and bellies of the Roadeo are same, or lighter gauge, than the Rambouillet. Does any member of the tribe have data? thanks TTM/RL 531 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send emai

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rondo.

2010-03-03 Thread Esteban
Cheers to your Frenchy-fied Riv: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4309012429/sizes/l/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Mar 3, 4:10 pm, muckum wrote: > Wanted to share a few recent "tweeks" to the Atlantis. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/72157623425544101/ > > Anybody doi

[RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem

2010-03-03 Thread Michael_S
I just knew there was a damn good reason to pick up that used 110mm one on EBAY 4 months ago. I'm sure it didn't have any reason to do with the fact that it's the best looking production stem available. And I have just the right new custom bike "almost" in my possession right now ~Mike~ On M

[RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem

2010-03-03 Thread cm
I am pretty sure I remember reading way back that the lugged stem is very very strong. I think this was back when Rivendell first stocked them and before their long out-of-stock status--maybe '01-02-ish. If I remember correctly (which I most likely dont), when Nitto was testing them for strength th

Re: [RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet for sale in Colorado - $1500

2010-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
That's what friends are for! That and the intervention afterward. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Esteban wrote: > Enablers! :) > > On Mar 3, 7:06 am, jinxed wrote: > > David, > > > > If you buy it, I will go get it and do the pack and ship from my shop > > if you need. > > > > Seriously. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem

2010-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
Did somebody mention my name? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'll bet most lugged stem owners don't mind the over-the-topness of > the NAHBS bikes! > > Philip > McMinnville, Ore. > > On Mar 3, 5:38 am, Ken Yokanovich > wrote: > > I

[RBW] Re: I flickered...

2010-03-03 Thread John Ferguson
Meticulous collector type? I resent that :-) I still think this is the prettiest bike ever...it just never rode it because I got the Toei a few months later. Glad to see it went to a good home, though. Keep it clean! John On Mar 3, 11:27 am, rb wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/14427...@n04

[RBW] Atlantis Rondo.

2010-03-03 Thread muckum
Wanted to share a few recent "tweeks" to the Atlantis. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/72157623425544101/ Anybody doing Solvang Century? See you there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, s

[RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction

2010-03-03 Thread William
Keven told me today that $3000 was the winning price, and he called it a 'screaming deal'. So I think he was a little disappointed. But this final price doesn't surprise me all that much. I was hoping to be surprised. Maybe Riv should have offered more OOAK (one of a kind) content: give the bi

RE: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction

2010-03-03 Thread Frederick, Steve
Not to mention that the size of any bike automatically limits it's value to anyone it doesn't fit... ...if they seriously wanted to move some product via highest bidder, they'd offer build kit, choice of frame size. But hopefully things aren't quite that desperate in Rivland... Steve -Or

Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction

2010-03-03 Thread andrew hill
that's about right from my p.o.v.. it it had been one size down (e.g. fit me) i was going to bid $3200, so we are on the same page. -a On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:35 PM, cm wrote: > I am curious how much they expected the bike to go for? I think I > woulda guessed $3000-$3200. A bike that is a pers

[RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction

2010-03-03 Thread cm
I am curious how much they expected the bike to go for? I think I woulda guessed $3000-$3200. A bike that is a personal thing and there are a lot of things on that bike that I wouldnt want to pay for, but would if the price were right-- so 75-80% of retail seems pretty spot on. I can if there was

[RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction

2010-03-03 Thread William
...and now Riv confirms the decision-making: "but after one or two bikes go out to cheap, we're probably going to post some others on eBay. Because basicallywe're after sustainability" So they are not taking the pure long-view, a loss-leader marketing exercise to give people ideas on how

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown

2010-03-03 Thread rperks
I went through similar choices when building out my Roadeo Adding more data points, my Jack brown measure in at 34.5 mm or so with my digital calipers that seem to measure everything else just fine. Also, all my other Schwallbe tires have measured spot on to the molded xx-622 dimension on the sid

[RBW] Re: I flickered...

2010-03-03 Thread Ken Yokanovich
Thanks for sharing. Fun to see where that beautiful Saluki that I believe used to belong to John Ferguson went :) Good for you! I too share the enjoyment of riding with my kids on a tandem. I have an old steel Trek with albatross bars that I ride with my daughters. On Mar 3, 10:26 am, rb wro

[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet for sale in Colorado - $1500

2010-03-03 Thread jinxed
ONLY because it's not MY size! ;) On Mar 3, 9:06 am, Esteban wrote: > Enablers!  :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, sen

[RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem

2010-03-03 Thread Philip Williamson
I don't have a lugged stem (I'd like a riser threadless one with inverted lugs, though). I tried a Technomic Dlx and Nitto Dirt Drop before switching to an old steel Salsa quill stem on my Quickbeam. http://tinyurl.com/qbsalsa. The steel stem is a lot stiffer than either of those. I'll bet most lu

[RBW] Re: I flickered...

2010-03-03 Thread rb
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14427...@n04/sets/72157623546735456/ On Mar 3, 11:26 am, rb wrote: > Hi...I finally organized meself to get photos up on flickr; there IS > some riv content on there, as we have 2 of them (one you might > recognize). And our other bikes as well. Check out the blue one

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown

2010-03-03 Thread JoelMatthews
Schwalbe sells only 35 in 700 far as I know. Speaking of Rando, wonder if Schwalbe well ever come out with a 650b version? On Mar 3, 10:18 am, Michael_S wrote: > so that would be the 700x35 model that measures 32mm?  I don't see a > 32 on the Schwalbe website. > I am about to order some new tire

[RBW] I flickered...

2010-03-03 Thread rb
Hi...I finally organized meself to get photos up on flickr; there IS some riv content on there, as we have 2 of them (one you might recognize). And our other bikes as well. Check out the blue one. Enjoy (and eventually...better photos). RB -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown

2010-03-03 Thread reynoldslugs
That's right. My experience with Schwalbe is that they run a little smaller than the nominal sizing. The Kojaks are designated as a 35, and on the Aksium rims, run almost exactly 32. I have Paselas on my QB and they are nice for mixed road and trail, but for road use the JB's seem to corner bett

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown

2010-03-03 Thread Michael_S
so that would be the 700x35 model that measures 32mm? I don't see a 32 on the Schwalbe website. I am about to order some new tires for my new Coho Randonneuse. I was torn between the Jack Browns, 32mm Paselas and now I should consider the Kojak too, it seems. ~Mike~ On Mar 3, 8:01 am, reynolds

[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet for sale in Colorado - $1500

2010-03-03 Thread Esteban
Enablers! :) On Mar 3, 7:06 am, jinxed wrote: > David, > > If you buy it, I will go get it and do the pack and ship from my shop > if you need. > > Seriously. > > Brad -Denver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to thi

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown

2010-03-03 Thread reynoldslugs
I just mounted a set of Kojaks on Mavic Aksiums (intended for use on a Roadeo frame, which hasn't yet arrived). I have not ridden the Kojaks yet, but can they appear to be almost exactly 32 mm. Almost identical to the Jack Browns. I am riding the JB's on another bike and agree that they are a su

Re: [RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet for sale in Colorado - $1500

2010-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
That is VERY generous of you, thank you. It looks like an incredible bike and I am very intrigued, but it really duplicates what I have. Or at least enough that I can't justify it! :-) On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:06 AM, jinxed wrote: > David, > > If you buy it, I will go get it and do the pack a

[RBW] Re: Yes, the Sam Hillborne can be Sporty Too

2010-03-03 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
Yes, we really like the silver SRAM road group as well ... but they are becoming really hard to find. Likewise, Shimano is slowly fading to a Gray color with their comparable Ultegra 6700 series. We're snapping up the 6600 series where we can. To answer Patrick's question, the friction shifting

[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet for sale in Colorado - $1500

2010-03-03 Thread jinxed
David, If you buy it, I will go get it and do the pack and ship from my shop if you need. Seriously. Brad -Denver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To u

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown

2010-03-03 Thread Mike
This is interesting to know. Did Mark mention if they run true to size? On Mar 3, 6:32 am, sjauch wrote: > I asked Mark about which tire he prefers when I ordered my Roadeo, > here is his reply: > > "I like both tires but if I had to pick just one, I would go with the > Kojaks.  They cost more, b

Re: [RBW] Re: Did the paper Readers get mailed yet?

2010-03-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On Mar 3, 2010, at 8:05 AM, John Bennett wrote: Dear Rob, The Reader is being printed this week, and if everything goes according to plan, they will be mailed next week. Thank you for patience. I'd better get on the ball and send some money then! -- You received this message because you ar

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown

2010-03-03 Thread sjauch
I asked Mark about which tire he prefers when I ordered my Roadeo, here is his reply: "I like both tires but if I had to pick just one, I would go with the Kojaks. They cost more, but will last longer and are a bit tougher than the JB Greens at about the same weight." On Mar 2, 6:48 pm, rperks

[RBW] Re: Did the paper Readers get mailed yet?

2010-03-03 Thread John Bennett
Dear Rob, The Reader is being printed this week, and if everything goes according to plan, they will be mailed next week. Thank you for patience. Cheers, John at RBW On Mar 2, 10:58 pm, rob markwardt wrote: > Ordered one few weeks ago and nothing's appeared...in old man > voice..."and I refus

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown

2010-03-03 Thread JoelMatthews
Never had JBs but use Kojaks. They are great street tires. They are durable tires with good flat resistance, roll very well, and ride comfortable. A very good tire. On Mar 2, 5:48 pm, rperks wrote: > Who among us has ridden both and can compare?  I really enjoy my Jack > Brown greens, but the

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown

2010-03-03 Thread Ken Yokanovich
Why not call Rivendell to inquire? Obviously there will be a variety of opinions based on their use? On Mar 2, 5:48 pm, rperks wrote: > Who among us has ridden both and can compare?  I really enjoy my Jack > Brown greens, but the pictures of the Kojaks on various bikes ar > RBWWHQ have got me wo

[RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem

2010-03-03 Thread Ken Yokanovich
I don't know about weight, length, or any real specifications that make them different. I have two lugged stems on two different bicycles; on my Rivendell custom all-rounder, and one on a custom Curt Goodrich. I have regular Nitto stems on my Atlantis and on another custom Rivendell road bike. T

[RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem

2010-03-03 Thread steven
I own two. No idea on weight. They look great. Enough said. On Mar 2, 6:54 pm, rperks wrote: > Is there more to this stem then the love of lugs?  Is it appreciably > stiffer than the technomic? Does it provide vertical compliance while > isolating lateral and twisting flex? > > Is there more than