Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]INCONTROLED SPAM

2005-06-09 Thread hamann . w
>> On Friday 10 June 2005 1:49 pm, Jason Haar wrote: >> > Jeremy Bowen wrote: >> > >Maybe my installation is non-standard but again, in my experience, the >> > >catch-all address collects this mail and doesn't subsequently bounce it so >> > >No, it's not broken. >> > >> > I do that too - but that's

Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]INCONTROLED SPAM

2005-06-09 Thread Aecio F. Neto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/06/2005 00:25:35: > We're all happy to discard viruses without bouncing them. > We're even OK with the idea of discarding SPAM without notifying the"sender". > It's not hard to conclude that bouncing in these two cases is utterly wrong, > despite what the RFCs may

Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]INCONTROLED SPAM

2005-06-09 Thread Aecio F. Neto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/06/2005 22:49:27: > Jeremy Bowen wrote: > > >No I'm not. Read what I wrote. "If an MTA does accept email for delivery, it > >should NEVER bounce it" Qmail, due to its modular architecture does accept message and decide to bounce later in its chain. You need to und

Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]INCONTROLED SPAM

2005-06-09 Thread Jason Haar
Jeremy Bowen wrote: No I'm not. Read what I wrote. "If an MTA does accept email for delivery, it should NEVER bounce it" In my experience with qmail (which I'll fully admit is not extensive), I don't believe it behaves in the manner I'm complaining about. I don't think it bounces mail for un

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2005-06-09 Thread Maximilian Ebert
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[Qmail-scanner-general]Re: INCONTROLED SPAM

2005-06-09 Thread Matthew H Blevins
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:20:27 +1200 From: Jason Haar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Trimble Navigation Ltd. To: qmail-scanner-general@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]INCONTROLED SPAM Jeremy Bowen wrote: If ignorant mail-admins didn't accept the spa

Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]INCONTROLED SPAM

2005-06-09 Thread Nerijus Baliunas
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 15:59:14 +1200 Jeremy Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have no problem that qmail will *accept* the messages but I'm not happy > that > it *bounces* them AFTER they've been accepted. (I'm still not sure that it > does this by default.) Usually it does not accept them (w

Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]contrib/sub-avpdaemon.pl

2005-06-09 Thread Nerijus Baliunas
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:22:04 +1200 Jason Haar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK - that needs to be fixed. You can see why this is in the contrib/ > directory... No-one is really looking after it. It still works with kavdaemon 4.x, I'm still using it. The OP is having problems with newer aveserver

Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]INCONTROLED SPAM

2005-06-09 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 00:42 +1200, Jeremy Bowen wrote: > You're coming at this too late. The RFCs only require the MTA send a > bounce if it is unable to deliver mail that it has *accepted*. I'm > arguing that the MTA should not have accepted it in the first place if > it can determine beforehan

Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]INCONTROLED SPAM

2005-06-09 Thread Jeremy Bowen
Adam Goryachev wrote: well, any MTA which follows the RFC (ie, any proper MTA, which might exclude some crappy ones - no names) is *required* to send a bounce if it isn't able to successfully deliver the message. You're coming at this too late. The RFCs only require the MTA send a bounce if it