On 07/10/05, Eric Nieuwland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ever cared to check what committees can do to a language ;-)
+1 QOTW.
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st.py -t
>
> and then, i may get "-t" within test.py for later use.
>
> i have no ideas how to do and i'm really stuck, can anyone help ?
Short answer:
import sys
print sys.argv
You might also want to take to butchers at the optparse module.
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On 12/10/05, tin gherdanarra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what is a "slot" in python?
<http://www.python.org/doc/current/ref/slots.html>
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If you find that you want to iterate over an iterable multiple times,
have a look at the solution that the tee() function in the itertools
module provides (http://docs.python.org/lib/itertools-functions.html).
(Have a look at the rest of the itertools module as well, for that
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>
> and what if I never used it in the definition body?
Now you've lost me. Probably my problem - serves me right for posting
from the pub.
> Elucidate please.
I'll allow a true Python Zen master to do that -
<http://effbot.org/zone/python-objects.htm>.
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On 21/10/05, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, I've no clue about anything VB-related unless it's
> Victoria Bitter.
+1 QOTW.
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You're calling the grid() method on the Entry object you're
instanciating. Are you sure that the grid() method returns the Entry
object so that you're actually binding it to self.myAddress?
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;, size='large', shape='ball') )
This is looking like foo should be a method of Context now,
but in my situation foo is already a method of another class.
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stores state/context
information about the current traversal.
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On 27/10/05, Gregory Piñero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So much for writing my whole program on one line :-(
http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/pyone/
But you didn't hear it from me, OK? ;-)
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love to get access
> to DevTrack in the same way, but it's looking like it's off limits, UI
> only. Does anyone have any experience with this? Much appreciated. I
> have searched the posts, came up with nothing.
For driving Windows GUIs, check out WATSUP. But be warned, it
On 02/11/05, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a version of Paint that works on a Mac, an obstreperous mentality,
> and a sense of humour. what else do you need?
Biscuits. You need biscuits.
Treating-this-thread-as-seriously-as-it-deserves-ly y'rs,
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> Is there a different group/mailing list I should try? Does anyone know if
> there is a pythonwin group/list for example?
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ct on other references to the original object.
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<http://docs.python.org/ref/binary.html> and
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_arithmetic>.
Over strings, '%' performs string formatting. See
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-as-workbook and any formatting you need afterwards.
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On 08/11/05, Shi Mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> any python module to calculate sin, cos, arctan?
<http://docs.python.org/lib/module-math.html>
I seem to be posting loads of links to the docs today...
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(All found from here, BTW - <http://docs.python.org/lib/genindex.html>.)
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On 8 Nov 2005 02:32:44 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> For example, where can I find the official documentation on the
> list.sort() method?
<http://docs.python.org/lib/typesseq-mutable.html>
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d by
default, and you are printing that.
> i=i+1
One simple fix - change the summary method to returnt the values
rather than print them - replace 'print' with 'return' in that method.
Another would be not to print the returned values - remove 'print'
from your w
27;)
>>> 1,None,"Hello!"
(1, None, 'Hello!')
They are both tuples contining identicle elements. What is it that you
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uns to 214 and stops. Why is
> this program only counting to 986Anybody have an answer??
> I am using Python 2.4.2
Look at this:
import sys
sys.getrecursionlimit()
It's set to 1000 by default. (Are you using IDLE or something? That
would explain where your other 14 levels of s
t it in site.py, I suppose, but in
general, I prefer iteration over recursion in Python.
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ave some
> suggestions for this??...
It's not because "O and Q are present in the entire string" - it's
because your expression
prefixes == "O" or "Q"
evaluates as
(prefixes == "O") or ("Q")
Since a string containing a value always evaluates as true, your
expression was always true, too.
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give it a go. Try to solve you own problems for a while, 'cos that's a
valuable skill, but don't get to the point of frustration. Ask for
help here or on the tutor mailing list[1].
And have fun.
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ced as a built-in at Python 2.4. If you have 2.3,
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set' is not defined
I said analogous, not identical. try (untested):
from sets import Set as set
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; File "C:\temp\try.py", line 8, in ?
> from sets import Set as set
> ImportError: cannot import name Set
> >>>
Works for me. You don't have a sets module of your own, do you? Try
this, and report back what you see:
import sets
print sets
t; lisB=[9,5,0,2]
> lisC=[9,5,0,1]
> def two(sequence1, sequence2):
>set1, set2 = set(sequence1), set(sequence2)
>return len(set1.intersection(set2)) == 2
> print two(lisA,lisB)
> False(should be true!)
It looks to me like A and B have three members in common - 2, 5 an
On 16/11/05, Nathan Pinno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It worked, but unfornately I can't use this line as it brings up errors:
>
> from Tkinter (or pygame) import *
>
> Anyway around this little bug?
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looking for from within your function, then print the return value
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tatement ?
There is no return statement in your else block. That's where the
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On 18 Nov 2005 10:53:04 -0800, Daniel Crespo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to know how can I do the PHP ternary operator/statement
> (... ? ... : ...) in Python...
Wait for Python 2.5 - <http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0308.html>.
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a way to do these things from within Python?
<http://www.tizmoi.net/watsup/intro.html>
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bogears, which is based on CherryPy: http://www.turbogears.org/
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get neither of them
work on OSX (let alone windows).
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> trying out the examples, here are some problems I am running into:
(snip)
I'm afraid I can't really help you here. I'm a Mac user these days!
You might have some luck with the WATSUP user mailing list -
<https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/w
On 23/11/05, Joseph Garvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What do you mean by unicode operators? Link?
http://fishbowl.pastiche.org/2003/03/19/jsr666_extended_operator_set
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On 22/11/05, Bengt Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That would be a counter-intuitive thing to do. Most things go left->right
> in order as the default assumption.
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On 23/11/05, Catalin Lungu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I need to compress files in self-extract archive. I use the zipfile module.
> Is there an option or parameter to do that?
No, AFAIK. If you have a command line tool, perhaps you could try driving that.
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> see also:
>
> http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/archives/000666.html
> http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0666.html
PEP 666 should have been left open. There are a number of ideas that
come up here that should be
my first impulse is to think that one of decisions is wrong,
nine times out of ten in time I'll come to find that I was wrong and
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he's made over many years.
>
> So, that makes that about a lot of things we think alike. Remains
> the question about whose ideas are better about the things we
> disagree.
It might remain for *you* to see the answer to that question. I susp
ect that most of us have answered it t
2.4.2/modindex.html which really isn't the same
> thing at all.
I think it is, really. Thing is, Python's standard library is broader
and less nested in structure than Java's, so it stands to reason that
its documetation will be broader and less nested in structur
0% ? ;-)
The other 10%, I've just not worked it out yet.
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have thought either of those was suitable for a
non-programmer. Great for cross-trainers, yes, but neither is intended
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I had control of the script, I can't think how I would stop timidity.
>
> Any advice on the 'area' of python I should be looking at would be greatly
> appreciated.
The subprocess module might be worth a look.
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On 12/2/05, Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FWIW, indentation scoping one one of the features that _attracted_ me
> to Python.
+1 QOTW
OK, it's a bit of a cliche. But it's a cliche because it's *true*.
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On 12/7/05, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But none of them are the cost of Python, which is free. It really isn't a
> scam, nobody is going to come knocking at your door with a surprise bill
> for using Python.
Well, there is the PSU's "Spanish Inquisition" division. Last week
they
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different versions of a package. You'll want to be able to use newer
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See <http://docs.python.org/tut/node8.html> for why.
(BTW, you would probably have got more of a response with a better
subject line. <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> is
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> the script i have sock.py runs if i say something like :
>
> python sock.py
>
> but ./sock.py results in a :bad interpreter error
> how do i troubleshoot something like this?
sounds like you've been editting the script on a windows machine, and
it's inserted it's evil l
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:57:33 GMT, JanC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rectangular selection only works with the mouse in SciTE/Scintilla:
> alt-click-drag.
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beneficial to run through the Python tutorial (at
http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html and included in the standard
distribution), and to join the tutor mailing list (at
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the 's' object is.
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brolewis wrote:
> I need to install Python on a number of laptop computers (at least a
> dozen). I am needing to install Python 2.4, pycrypto, win32all,
> wxPython, and pyCurl.
You could try the recently-announced MOVPY, or NSIS/InnoSetup as you
say.
Or simply put the five installers on a disk -
> I'm looking for any books or on-line resources on game programming
> using Python. Does anyone have any advice?
Hi Baza,
If I you are as I assume, a programmer just starting out with game
programming, the best suggestion I can give is head over to
pygame.org, and after downloading and installi
rg that was down, rather that the
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[1] http://starship.python.net/crew/mhammond/
[2] http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pythonwin32/chapter/ch12.html
[3]
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7;d
just build a CSV file if I were you. Excel opens them perfectly
happily.
If you need to write out formulae, formratting, that kind of thing,
then I think you'll need to write a 'real' Excel file. I don't have a
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I've noticed that a few ASPN cookbook recipes, which are recent
additions, use classic classes.
I've also noticed classic classes are used in many places in the
standard library.
I've been using new-style classes since Python 2.2, and am suprised
people are still using the classic classes.
Is th
> Is there a reason NOT to use them? If a classic class works fine, what
> incentive is there to switch to new style classes?
Perhaps classic classes will eventually disappear? It seems strange
(and is difficult to explain to my peers) that a language offers two
different ways to define a stand
at what happens with a mutable object:
>>> class Spam(object):
... eggs = [3]
...
>>> spam = Spam()
>>> spam2 = Spam()
>>> spam.eggs
[3]
>>> spam2.eggs
[3]
>>> spam.eggs.append(5)
>>> spam.eggs
[3, 5]
>>> spam2.eggs
[3, 5]
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> Unfortunately, if we should follow the recent advice about
> always using "super()" in the __init__ method, it's hard
> to do what you suggest (though it sounds like good advice)
> without resorting to extreme ugliness:
'import this' also provides some good advice:
"There should be one-- and pr
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:56:10 -0500, Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Simon, it's really not about mutability at all. You've changed
> the example,
Err, there *wasn't* an example, not really. The OP just mentioned
'setting the values' of instance
ral.
x = 04 # This doesn't need a warning: 04 == 4
#x = 09 # This doesn't need a warning: it will fail to compile
x= 012 # This *does* need a warning: 012 == 10
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You might find these at least periperally useful:
<http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/archives/001291.html>
<http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/archives/001292.html>
They refer to address formatting rather than de-duping - but
normalising soulds like a useful firs
ss is mutable and usable as dict key.
Decimal objects are immutable, so far as I know.
>>> from decimal import Decimal
>>> spam = Decimal('1.2')
>>> eggs = spam
>>> eggs is spam
True
>>> eggs += 1
>>> eggs is spam
False
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Hmm, sounds interesting, I've always resorted to using CSV (or even
HTML!) when exporting to Excel.
As far as how to open it up, have a look at creating a project on
www.sourceforge.net or just zip it up and bung it on your own website
if you have one. I've got the feeling there are also Python-sp
> test = ["a1", "a2", "a3"]
> map(re.sub("[a-z]", ""), test)
> print test
This what you want?
>>> import re
>>> test = ["a1", "a2", "a3"]
>>> test = [re.sub("[a-z]", "", item) for item in test]
>>> test
['1', '2', '3']
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:37:46 +, Simon Brunning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This what you want?
>
> >>> import re
> >>> test = ["a1", "a2", "a3"]
> >>> test = [re.sub("[a-z]", "", item) for
7;k']
>
> for i in range(30):
> print c[i%len(c)]
I don''t know if it's faster, but:
>>> import itertools
>>> c=['r','g','b','c','m','y','k']
>>> for i in itertools.islice(itertools.cycle(c), 30):
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or the major changes, by release:
* http://www.python.org/doc/2.2.3/whatsnew/
* http://www.python.org/doc/2.3/whatsnew/
* http://www.python.org/doc/2.4/whatsnew/
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) feel that this is a more "Pythonic"
approach. Give the programmer the information that they need, but
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e used? That too, given that the shared
> object was written in c++, compiled with g++ ?
Will ctypes do the trick?
http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/ctypes/
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# do whatever
If the list is sorted, have a look at the bisect module.
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<http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/>.
Lastly, although neophytes are more than welcome here, you might find
the tutor mailing list a good place to ask questions in the early days
of your Python experience. You'll find it here -
<http://mail.python.org
I have written some software which proxy's SQL Server database
services across a network. It uses Pyro, without multiuthreading. It
creates and closes a new connection and cursor object for each
request.
Unfortunately, the memory consumption blows out (consuming all
available memory) when a large
Franco Fiorese wrote:
> Is there any way, that you know, to get better performance under
Linux?
Build Python yourself, using relevant CFLAGS and TARGET for your
processor?
I've always noticed that Windows Python takes a lot longer to startup
than Linux, but never really looked at runtime perform
> I notice that lots of the medium-largish sites (from hobbyist BBS's to
> sites like Slashdot, Wikipedia, etc.) built using this approach are
> painfully slow even using seriously powerful server hardware.
Slow is such an ambiguous term. Do you mean the pages are slow to
render in a browser, or
I'm writing my 2nd large wxPython program, and after the problems I
found doing the first's layout in code, I'd like to look at using a
'WYSIWYG' IDE, like VisualStudio does for MFC.
I've tried a few that I found, wxGlade is probably the best, although
it seems to be not 100% WYSIWYG (like the wid
in' for further copyright information.
>>> import win32com.client
>>> excel = win32com.client.gencache.EnsureDispatch("Excel.Application")
>>> win32com.client.constants.xlRight
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print >> mylog, exception # or whatever...
You are free to ignore the exception altogether if you want to, but I
promise you, you don't want to. ;-)
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On 6/12/05, Steve Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oops - I thought I cancelled that post when I relized I was saying nothing,
Would that everyone cancelled their posts when they realised that they
weren't saying anything. ;-)
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useful with it.
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itself cannot tell you its name, and it doesn't
really care -- so the only way to find out what it's called is to ask
all your neighbours (namespaces) if it's their cat (object) ... and
don't be surprised if you'll find that it's known by many names, or no
name at
QOTW: "Python is more concerned with making it easy to write good programs
than difficult to write bad ones." - Steve Holden
"Scientists build so that they can learn. Programmers and engineers learn
so that they can build." - Magnus Lycka
"It happens that old Java programmers make one module per
QOTW: "Python is more concerned with making it easy to write good programs
than difficult to write bad ones." - Steve Holden
"Scientists build so that they can learn. Programmers and engineers learn
so that they can build." - Magnus Lycka
"It happens that old Java programmers make one module per
to a remote syslogd, perhaps on your web server, and parse the
> log file for the status data.
QHST is similar to syslog - but what's an application host in 400 terms?
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t, but nevertheless I'm more
productive with Python and SciTE than I am with Java and Eclipse.
Eclipse helps a lot, true - I certainly wouldn't want to code Java
without it or something like it - but it's not enought to pull ahead
of Python's inherent superiority.
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or those IDE.
Eclipse is indeed a memory hog of the first order.
> 3. Python solve my problem.
Mine too - but I'm not free to choose.
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rning in the docs about the
trouble you can get yourself into with it.
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QOTW: "And what defines a 'python activist' anyway? Blowing up Perl
installations worldwide?" - Ivan Van Laningham
"Floating point is about nothing if not being usefully wrong." - Robert Kern
Sibylle Koczian needs to sort part of a list. His first attempt made
the natural mistake - sort
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