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Am 14.05.24 um 19:44 schrieb Gordinator via Python-list:
I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly
competent Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What
references can I use when writing my terminal emulator? I wish for
it to be a true terminal emulator as well
On 2024-05-15 19:42, Popov, Dmitry Yu via Python-list wrote:
What would be the easiest way to learn which version of NumPy I have with my
Anaconda distribution?
Import numpy and print its '__version__' attribute.
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rary as well. I have
worked on projects in the past where only the standard library could be
used, so I 100% agree with this. But that's something for the PSF to
talk about. Maybe someone could write a PEP for this.
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users to complain that they cannot get
to install properly?
To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I guess
Linux users have to deal with venvs, so we're even.
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On 2024-05-19 19:13, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2024 08:32:46 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote:
I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare".
I install stuff and it just works.
Hear! Hear! Me too! And all that.
I'm on Manjaro, which is a tad finick
> On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
You must use a venv to pip install packages from pypi now.
This is implemented in p
;t say I didn't warn you though :)
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On 20/05/2024 10:58, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
On 2024-05-20 00:26:03 +0200, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
Skip Montanaro via Python-list schreef op 20/05/2024 om 0:08:
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.
stinfo/python-list
On 22/05/24 07:14, HenHanna via Python-list wrote:
How can i write this function Cprod (Cartesian Product) simply?
(writing this out: itertools.product([0, 1], repeat=N )
The value can be a list or a Tuple.
cprod([0, 1], 1) => ((0)
dn wrote:
On 22/05/24 07:14, HenHanna via Python-list wrote:
How can i write this function Cprod (Cartesian Product) simply?
(writing this out: itertools.product([0, 1], repeat=N
)
The value can be a list or a Tuple.
cprod([0, 1], 1) => ((0)
it was so exciting...
Every day i thought...
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umentation systems; here, the objective appears to be using Python to
generate Markdown.
How much have you used Markdown to any serious degree, before attempting
this feat?
On 26/05/24 18:28, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
The web claims (I think on all pages I've read about Markdown a
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 9:48 PM Gilmeh Serda via Python-list <
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>
> Solved by using a different method.
>
>
- - - And that was how?
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On 2024-05-29 05:33, Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list wrote:
The following is my effort to understand how to process a string, letter, by
letter:
def myfunc(name): index = 0 howmax = len(name) # while (index <=
howmax): while (index < howmax): if (index %
On 2024-05-29 15:32, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 5/29/2024 8:55 AM, Kevin M. Wilson wrote:
Please recall, I said the format for the email failed to retain the
proper indents.
I'll attach a picture of the code!
Purpose; to uppercase every other letter in a string.
Thanks all
On 5/27/2024 1:59 PM, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com wrote:
On 2024-05-27 at 12:37:01 -0700,
HenHanna via Python-list wrote:
On 5/27/2024 7:18 AM, Cor wrote:
Some entity, AKA "B. Pym" ,
wrote this mindboggling stuff:
(selectively-snipped-or-not-p)
On 12/16/2023, c...@clsne
On 29/05/24 06:49, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
Solved by using a different method.
Hedonist for hire... no job too easy!
This combination of sig-file and content seems sadly ironic.
How about CONTRIBUTING to the community by explaining 'the solution' to
people who
u can treat it anyway you like)
but ideally, i'd treat [editor-in-chief]
[go-ahead] [pen-knife]
[know-how] [far-fetched] ...
as one unit.
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On 31/05/24 08:03, HenHanna via Python-list wrote:
Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ...
could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python program that'd
give me a list of all words occurring exactly once?
-- Also, a list of words occurring once, twi
On 5/30/2024 2:18 PM, dn wrote:
On 31/05/24 08:03, HenHanna via Python-list wrote:
Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ...
could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python program that'd
give me a list of all words occurring exactly once?
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a Python object back into a Lisp-readable string."
if isinstance(exp, list):
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return str(exp)
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On 31/05/24 14:26, HenHanna via Python-list wrote:
On 5/30/2024 2:18 PM, dn wrote:
On 31/05/24 08:03, HenHanna via Python-list wrote:
Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ...
could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python program
that'd give me a list of all
j j j k baz baz))
==> ((2 2) (foo) (bar bar) (j j j) (k) (baz baz))
_
(ChunkC '(a a b b b))
==> ((a 2) (b 3))
(ChunkC '(a a b a a a b b))
==> ((a 2) (b 1) (a 3) (b 2))
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On 2024-06-09 22:20, HenHanna via Python-list wrote:
Chunk, ChunkC -- nice simple way(s) to write these in Python?
(Chunk '(a a ba a a b b))
==> ((a a) (b) (a a a) (b b))
(Chunk '(a a a a b c c a a d e e e e))
==> ((a a a a) (b) (c c) (a
On 6/9/2024 3:50 PM, MRAB wrote:
On 2024-06-09 22:20, HenHanna via Python-list wrote:
Chunk, ChunkC -- nice simple way(s) to write these in Python?
(Chunk '(a a b a a a b b))
==> ((a a) (b) (a a a) (b b))
(Chunk '(a a a a b c c a a d e e e e))
shoot whatever we say down.
A considerate person would ask questions more clearly and perhaps explain
what language they are showing us code from and so on.
Life is too short to waste.
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n...
How can this code work??? , when it's
> def chunk1(seq):
and it's [s] within the def-body ?
it seemed as if the Compiler was doing a DWIM (Do what i mean) trick.
On 09/06/2024 22:20, HenHanna via Python-list wr
information, see
https://urllib3.readthedocs.io/en/latest/advanced-usage.html#ssl-warnings
InsecurePlatformWarning,
Any clues?
Why are you using Python 2? Come on, it's been 16 years. Ya gotta move
on at some point.
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On 2024-06-12 17:31, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote:
I am sure there is inertia to move from an older product and some people
need a reason like this where the old becomes untenable.
It seems Microsoft is having a problem where something lik 2/3 of Windows
users have not upgraded from Windows
gt; Phil
I /think/ you can replace it with {1...4} and {1...3}? I know there is
some syntax for "range of numbers" but I can't remember it exactly.
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On 15/06/24 10:00, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote:
I notice that in some recent discussions, we have users who cannot be
replied to directly as their email addresses are not valid ones, and I
believe on purpose. Examples in the thread I was going to reply to are:
...
It's an intere
On 2024-06-13 23:49, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote:
On 13Jun2024 19:44, dieter.mau...@online.de
wrote:
Why not use:
```
try:
with open()...
...
except FileNotFoundError:
...
```
This is exactly what the OP was expressing dissatisfaction with.
I'm -1 on the idea myself
On 18/06/24 05:29, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
AVI GROSS via Python-list schreef op 17/06/2024 om 17:03:
I simply am thinking that people who do not allow me to easily reply
to them
directly, should be ignored by me and not get my cooperation that way.
FWIW, personally I (mostly
On 2024-06-17 20:27, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
Recently I acquired a new laptop running WIndows 11; my previous one
uses WIndows 10. I encountered a strange problem:
I am using the win32clipboard backage (part of pywin32), and when I use
SetClipboardData() to write text which consists
On 2024-06-19 00:32, Ivan "Rambius" Ivanov via Python-list wrote:
Hello,
How can I convert a date, usually datetime.now(), into a format where
the timezone is in hours:minutes format. I was able to get that format
in shell:
$ date +%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%:z
2024-06-18T19:24:09-04:00
The
;, "\\n").replace("\t", "\\t")
# Parse command-line arguments
args = sys.argv[1:]
# Sort the list using the version key
sorted_args = sorted(args, key=version_key)
# Print each sorted, escaped value on a new line
for arg in sorted_args:
print(shell_escape(arg))
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On 2024-06-24 00:30, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 at 08:20, Rayner Lucas via Python-list
wrote:
In article ,
ros...@gmail.com says...
>
> If you switch to a Linux system, it should work correctly, and you'll
> be able to migrate the rest of the way
On 25/06/24 05:17, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 6/24/2024 5:51 AM, Barry Scott via Python-list wrote:
On 23 Jun 2024, at 06:58, Sebastian Wells via Python-list
wrote:
The spammers won the spam wars, so even if you have someone's real
e-mail address, that's no guarante
be to minimize the
memory footprint of the application.
I don't use standard desktop computers anymore - I'm writing this on my
beloved pi400 using emacs.
Thanks
Daniel
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On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:14 AM Daniel via Python-list <
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> Hi guys -
>
> I have historical experience developing sofwtare for my own use. It has
> been
> quite a while since doing so and the advent of new languages has brought me
> here.
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:22 AM inhahe wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:14 AM Daniel via Python-list <
> python-list@python.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> In your wisdom, would python be a good environment to accomplish this?
>
>
> I think Python would be
inhahe writes:
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:14 AM Daniel via Python-list <
> python-list@python.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys -
>>
>> I have historical experience developing sofwtare for my own use. It has
>> been
>> quite a while since doing so and the a
On 6/07/24 22:49, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
Consider this scenario (which I ran into in real life):
I want to open a text file and do a lot of processing on the lines
of that file.
If the file does not exist I want to take appropriate action, e.g.
print an error message and
python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
> On 7 Jul 2024, at 22:13, Chris Green via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> a simple file lock can then
> be used to prevent simultaneous access (well, simultaneous access when
> the writing process is writing).
There is a simple pattern to make this robust.
Write new values to
On 2024-07-07 23:27, Barry via Python-list wrote:
On 7 Jul 2024, at 22:13, Chris Green via Python-list
wrote:
a simple file lock can then
be used to prevent simultaneous access (well, simultaneous access when
the writing process is writing).
There is a simple pattern to make this robust
Daniel via Python-list writes:
> One thing missing is a good textmode irc client that will connect to
> quassel core.
>
> I've seen efforts to make a plugin for weechat but, to date, I don't see much
> progress on that end.
>
> In your wisdom, would python be a
test-default-languages=True to be set as a default.
2. I tried to subscribe to Python-ideas python-id...@python.org, but I
can't login to
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/. Although I
did login to https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list . Do I
ha
Thank you.
Uri.
אורי
u...@speedy.net
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> On 9 Jul 2024, at 06:13, אורי via Python-list <python-list@python.org>
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> I tried to subscribe to Python-ideas
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>
> These days ideas are discussed on
;, "credits" or "license" for more information.
1
1
2
2
^[k
I see the literal 'escape' character + 'k', when it should
let me edit previous commands.
I did have to compile my own python because I'm using 2.7 on
this machine.
Thanks for any help.
Toby
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le with the same problem,
but couldn't find an answer that helped.
Thanks!
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I see the literal 'escape' character + 'k', when it should
let me edit previous commands.
I did have to compile my own python because I'm using 2.7 on
this machine.
I figured it out. I needed to apt install libreadline-dev.
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On 2024-07-27 21:58, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
On 7/26/24 16:28, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 7/26/2024 7:25 AM, Lizna Shah via Python-list wrote:
OSError: [WinError 225] Operation did not complete successfully
because the
file contains a virus or potentially unwanted
money, any body
donate me a iMac with ARM CPU? or donate some money at
https://buymeacoffee.com/benjamin_yin <https://buymeacoffee.com/benjamin_yin>
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On 31/07/24 06:18, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
Hello all,
I want to predict an object by given as input an image and want to have my
model be able to predict the label. I have trained a model using tensorflow
based on annotated database where the target object to predict was added to
the
nd have my cake (and get to eat it too
(grin!).
Suggestions - - - ideas - - - please?
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On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
Greetings
Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really
don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the day as it is!!)).
One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the
devuan
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list
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> On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
> > Greetings
> >
> > Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really
> > don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the
On 4/08/24 09:34, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list
wrote:
On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
Greetings
Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really
don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 6:20 PM Cameron Simpson via Python-list <
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> On 03Aug2024 16:34, o1bigtenor wrote:
> >So please - - - how do I set up a venv so that I can install and run
> >python
> >3.12
> >(and other needed programs relate
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 7:11 PM dn via Python-list
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> On 4/08/24 09:34, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list <
> python-list@python.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor
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> On 2024-08-03 15:17:11 -0500, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
> > One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the
> > devuan world you need to run that
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list <
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> On 8/3/24 20:03, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
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> > My question was, is and will be (and the doc absolutely doesn't cover it)
> > how do I install a different versi
Matt - if you would rather that you were not included in the address list -
-
please advise.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann wrote:
> On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list <
> > pyth
est/esp8266/tutorial/intro.html
>
> That seems to have instructions for what you want to do..
>
See item 1.4 - - - - that's where I'm at (and that's where the problems
are hidden at as well!)
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On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 3:56 PM Mats Wichmann wrote:
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> > On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann > <mailto:m...@wichmann.us>> wrote:
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> > On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
> > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wi
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Interactive high-level object-oriented language
(pyvenv binary, version 3.9)
since there seems to be some doubt I included the whole list
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C API can be used without any other "lock/GIL" etc.
Seems like yes
<https://docs.python.org/3/c-api/init.html#c.Py_NewInterpreterFromConfig>.
→ I think that could be a solution.
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On 06.08.24 04:34, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2024-08-05, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
Is it possible to run two completely independent Python interpreters
in one process, each using a thread?
By independent, I mean that no data is shared between the
interpreters and thus the C API can be
le list
was posted.
Your question was really not clear given the context.
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Why do you have to belittle other people?
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On 15/08/24 10:56, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
On 14/08/2024 23:32, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
Lots of people care but the ability to influence these
decisions seems to have been removed far from the
general python user community. Python has moved from
the BDFL/Bazaar to the
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> On 14/08/2024 12:54 am, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote:
> > On 8/13/24 3:24 AM, Robin Becker via Python-list wrote:
> >> I am clearly one of the troglodytes referred
: http://thedev.nhi1.de/NHI1/main/
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if it's
over a certain number of lines? I know this isn't IRC - just asking.
Daniel
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On 2024-08-20 23:26, Daniel via Python-list wrote:
Hi folks -
New here. I've perused some posts and haven't seen a posting FAQ for
this NG. I'm learning python right now to realize some hobby goals I
have regarding some smolnet services. What are the NG standards on
pasting code
cure github
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some of the articles may
be pertinent.
@pycoders and @thepycoders on X tend to overlap the newsletter.
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On 21/08/24 10:26, Daniel via Python-list wrote:
Hi folks -
New here. I've perused some posts and haven't seen a posting FAQ for
this NG. I'm learning python right now to realize some hobby goals I
have regarding some smolnet services. What are the NG standards on
pasting code
dn writes:
> On 21/08/24 10:26, Daniel via Python-list wrote:
>> Hi folks -
>> New here. I've perused some posts and haven't seen a posting FAQ for
>> this NG. I'm learning python right now to realize some hobby goals I
>> have regarding some smol
sser used protocols not known by many in the mainstream. Such as:
gopher, gemini, finger, spartan, titan, etc.
An example of use, here's a weather service tied to a finger. Put your
city name as the user. This isn't mine, but it is inspiring. Example:
finger mi...@graph.no
For all options, go to the help finger:
finger h...@graph.no
Daniel
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On 22/08/24 09:15, Daniel via Python-list wrote:
rbowman writes:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:26:39 +0100, Daniel wrote:
...
smolnet, as in things like
Lesser used protocols not known by many in the mainstream. Such as:
gopher, gemini, finger, spartan, titan, etc.
An example of use, here
drop in spam.
Absolutely. It was sort of an intelligence test. I've used the server at
the Freie Universität Berlin from back in the days when it was free rather
than 10 Euros a year so life went on smoothly.
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straightforward.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1436
It's another use of a simple socket connection.
https://docs.python.org/3/howto/sockets.html
You may be able to gleam something from
https://sr.ht/~lioploum/offpunk/
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nly, but if you're wishing to leisurely read posts
on reddit in a super fast gopher page, you can.
Right now, I'm focused on providing wiktionary.org services on gopher as
well as finger.
These are longterm projects since I can only learn python and code on
spare time, which I have little.
/snip
I will be posting my coding questions in here.
Thanks guys.
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Jason Friedman writes:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 4:04 PM Daniel via Python-list <
> python-list@python.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> An example of use, here's a weather service tied to a finger. Put your
>> city name as the user. This isn't mine, but it is insp
ough it may have
the walrus. There are workarounds but it can be annoying.
I haven't worked with CircuitPython lately and don't know if it has pulled
in later features.
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on certainly will get the job done either on the client or server
side. Being retro tech should make life easier than some of the web
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On 23/08/24 07:49, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:40:52 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
The Pico uses MicroPython which is stuck on an old version of Python,
unfortunately.
How did this enter the conversation/thread?
Paul's 'contribution' does not even appear
On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:36:02 +1200, dn wrote:
> On 23/08/24 07:49, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:40:52 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
>>
>>> The Pico uses MicroPython which is stuck on an old version of Python,
>>> unfortunately.
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On 23/08/24 15:43, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:36:02 +1200, dn wrote:
On 23/08/24 07:49, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:40:52 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
The Pico uses MicroPython which is stuck on an old version of Python,
unfortunately.
How
is the command line utility. Thonny isn't my favorite IDE but it
does make life easy:
https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/getting-started-with-the-
pico/2
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