Matt - if you would rather that you were not included in the address list - - please advise.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann <m...@wichmann.us> wrote: > On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < > > python-list@python.org> wrote: > > > >> On 8/3/24 20:03, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > >> > >>> My question was, is and will be (and the doc absolutely doesn't cover > it) > >>> how do I install a different version in the venv so that python 3.11.x > on > >>> the > >>> system is not discombobulated by the python 3.12.x in the venv. > >>> That python 3.12 would let me run the tools needed. > >>> (Its the how to install the next version of python that I just haven't > >> been > >>> able to find information on - - - and I would be looking for > information > >>> on how to install on a *nix.) > >> > >> To get a different Python "in" the venv, you use the version you want in > >> the construction of the venv. For example: > >> > >> > >> $ python3.13 -m venv new_venv > >> $ new_venv/bin/python --version > >> Python 3.13.0b4 > >> $ source new_venv/bin/activate > >> > >> > > "https://peps.python.org/pep-0668/ PEP 668, which prevents pip from > > interacting with the OS installed python. This change has been done in > red > > hat and other distros too . . . " > > > > similarly your first command produces and error code for the same reason. > > > > Sorry - - - not my policy - - - > > What? Yes, the *system* pip should have some restrictions, if it's a > system mainly managed by a package manager. > > Setting up a venv is the *expected* approach to such situations, and > creating one doesn't cause any problems. You end up with a pip in the > activated venv that's going to install to a different path (the one in > the venv), and will not be marked as externally managed, as the package > manager has no control over that path. > > That's the whole point. What error are you getting? The venv module is > not the pip module so restrictions on the system pip have nothing to do > with it. > > set up pyenv activated a venv trying to install python3.12 into it 1. download of python3.12 (blahblahblahetc).deb will not install 2. download of python3.12.tar.xz similarly will not install (venv2) memyself@devuanbigbox:~$ pip install /home/memyself/Downloads/Python-3.12.4.tar.xz Processing ./Downloads/Python-3.12.4.tar.xz ERROR: file:///home/memyself/Downloads/Python-3.12.4.tar.xz does not appear to be a Python project: neither 'setup.py' nor 'pyproject.toml' found. seems that I need a different version (installable as it were) of python3.12 or my approach is all wrong! Please advise TIA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
