On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list <python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > Greetings > > > > Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really > > don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the day as it > is!!)). > > > > One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the > > devuan world you need to run that on either Devaun 3 or 5 - - - its just > > not available on devuan 4. > > > > Tried installing all the tools I need using downloads and .deb installs > but > > then I need to have python3.12 and that's also not part of Devuan4. > > > > Not versed enough to set up a good venv (if that's possible) so that I > > could work in that specific venv and have my cake (and get to eat it too > > (grin!). > > > > Suggestions - - - ideas - - - please? > > Sorry if this offends, but this is a list of short-cuts and reasons why > they don't work (immediately). > > > Have just come from a discussion about 'how to start a project'. Amongst > the questions to ask are: "what resources do we have (or can add) to > achieve?". > Fair question details interleaved - - - > > In this case, if Python-skill is a "personnel-resource" (and C++ a > "constraint"), will question the ESP over Raspberry Pi (say)? > Well - - - RPi world technical specs is usable from -20 to 60 C (iirc on the top number) and for my project I absolutely need to have usability to at least -40 - - could possibly do a bit less but -35 C is a hard requirement so the RPi and Pico (which I would like to use) is out but ESP8266 runs in that -40 to 65 C range. > > Why talking of Python 3.12 when the solution involves MicroPython? > Because one uses psytool on one computer to transfer a program to the MicroPython system. In fact there are a set of tools that need Python3.12 to be able to do this and therefore the question. > > > Perhaps need to take a step back and look at 'options' - relate needs to > resources, and evaluate the impact of each decision on later ones - as > well as against your personal skills (modify objectives to limits, or > accept that some learning/training will be necessary as pre-requisite to > (being able to) attack the project). > > I have been investigating using a venv but am not finding clear directions so that I could set up Python3.12 inside (along with the other needed tools). The more I'm looking the less useful most of the information I'm finding is becoming. Therefore I thought I would go to the python gurus for information - - - which I have. So please - - - how do I set up a venv so that I can install and run python 3.12 (and other needed programs related to 3.12) inside? TIA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
