[OT] Valid Mail addresses modifications (WAS: Re: Looping through the gmail dot trick)

2008-01-21 Thread Martin Marcher
Martin Vilcans wrote: > Try the SMTP spec. IIRC there's a passage there that says that the > server should try to make sense of addresses that don't map directly > to a user name. Specifically, it says that firstname.lastname should > be mapped to the user with those first

Re: Looping through the gmail dot trick

2008-01-21 Thread Martin Marcher
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Postfix, I think, interpets "foo+bar" the same as "foo". yup it does, but "foo" has to be a valid localpart so "foo+bar" -> foo foo+baz -> foo f+oobar -> f - which is a different user (aliases set aside) famous call on plus addressing, and you it's just a default you can

UDP Client/Server

2008-01-22 Thread Martin Marcher
and I have no clue where the packages go. I can't think of a simpler protocol than to just receive a fixed max UDP packet size and answer immediately (read an "echo" server). thanks martin ### server >>> from socket import * >>> import SocketServer >>&

Re: UDP Client/Server

2008-01-23 Thread Martin Marcher
you, so, this is wrong. > hmm then why do I receive every second request, shouldn't then no data at all come up? Also the next thing that would be a problem would be if I do data = self.request[0] I do get the data but where would I get the info from to which endpoint

Re: A GUI framework for running simulations

2008-01-23 Thread Martin Manns
be an alternative for visualizing simulations and setting parameters even though it does not provide all these fancy widgets around. Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Email module, how to add header to the top of an email?

2008-01-24 Thread Martin Marcher
ROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if by bottom you mean it's appended to the body...well that is a problem :) hth martin -- http://noneisyours.marcher.name http://feeds.feedburner.com/NoneIsYours You are not free to read this message, by doing so, you have violated my licence and are requ

Re: Sorting Large File (Code/Performance)

2008-01-24 Thread Martin Marcher
umber of characters per line is > less than 2. Please check. which would be true if 1.599.999.999 had 2 chars and the rest of the lines just one :) (but yes that would be an interesting question how to sort a 1 character line based on the first 2 of that line) martin -- http://noneisyours

pyfov Package Index link broken

2008-01-25 Thread Martin Manns
Hi, I am looking for the code of pyfov, which is on the Package Index. However, the link is broken and the author does not seem to respond to e-mails. Any chance to get hands on the code? Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python System information

2008-01-27 Thread Martin Saturka
> How can i get system information like CPU load and RAM usage in linux. What about 'pystatgrab'? It provides good info, with a limitation - it does not have CPU info for particular CPUs, it takes just the cumulative CPU info. http://www.i-scream.org/pystatgrab/ http://packages.debian.org/statgrab

Re: Executing other python code

2008-01-29 Thread Martin Skou
Over-simplified yes, but it will work! Python is beautiful :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Does anyone else use this little idiom?

2008-02-04 Thread Bob Martin
in 332496 20080204 102153 "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?BJ=F6rn_Lindqvist?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In Python, the direct translation of this is a for loop. When the >> index doesn't matter to me, I tend to write it as: >> >> for _ in xrange (1,n): >>some code >> >> An alternative way of indicating

Re: Encrypting a short string?

2008-02-11 Thread Martin Marcher
info in the subject line is a) visually disturbing (subjective) b) I guess that the risk of a user modifying the subject line is the same than finding a programm that doesn't to some extent honor the headers i mentioned... c) Personally whenever I find a mail that says please keep this in

Re: how to finish a while loop...

2008-02-20 Thread Martin Blume
ks again mate. > > I try it too in my eclipse3.2. I got the same result. > It seems very strange. > Print out "answer" and see if there is a difference ... my $0.02 Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Any experience with Python on a PDA ?

2008-02-22 Thread Martin Blume
t for speed and screen size issues). HTH Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Acting like button are being pressed (BUT THEY ARE NOT) Please Help

2008-02-22 Thread Martin Franklin
to the entry widgets. there are a few good ways around this, lambda, class with __call__ etc etc most of these can be found with a little googling (in case this is homework) Cheers, Martin. -- signature file not found, must be something I ate -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Return value of an assignment statement?

2008-02-23 Thread Bob Martin
in 335100 20080222 123210 Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:12:56 +, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: > >> A "variable" in >> programming languages is composed of a name, a memory location, possibly >> a type and a value. In C-like languages, where you put values

Re: How, python with Tk extensions enabled to import Tkinter

2008-02-27 Thread Martin Franklin
r) or command line 'yum install tkinter' (I may have spelt the tkinter package name wrong so do search for it first) Fedora (like RedHat) has loads of Python related packages so worth checking in the package manager - Search for python- you'll be pleasantly surprised :) Cheers, Martin.

Re: Portable linux python install

2008-02-27 Thread Martin Schmitz
hon-hosting.com/). Then you get binaries which are only linked against libc - and as it happens to be the oldest version of libc around you shouldn't have problems running the binaries with newer ones. HTH, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Problem with the strip string method

2008-03-02 Thread Martin Blume
r embedded". >>> "xxxaaaxxx".strip("x") 'aaa' >>> "xxxaaaxxxaaaxxx".strip("x") 'aaaxxxaaa' >>> HTH Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Leopard and MySQL

2008-03-05 Thread martin . laloux
There is a macpython list that you can consult at http://www.nabble.com/Python---pythonmac-sig-f2970.html. When you search for your problem http://www.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?forum=2970&local=y&query=mysqldb you have the solution http://www.nickshanny.com/2007/10/os-x-105-python-and-mysqldb.ht

Re: Checking if a variable is a dictionary

2008-03-06 Thread Martin Marcher
of sequence? python dicts can hold any kind of object (as a value). What you can't do is have a list as the key, but that is easily circumvented by using a tuple (or any other immutable type). hth martin -- http://tumblr.marcher.name https://twitter.com/MartinMarcher http://www.xing.com/pro

Re: Distributed App - C++ with Python for Portability?

2008-03-10 Thread Bob Martin
in 337513 20080310 115744 "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Roopan wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> I am looking at developing an enterprise-grade distributed data >> sharing application - key requirements are productivity and platform >> portability. >> >> Will it be sensible to use C++ for p

Re: Distributed App - C++ with Python for Portability?

2008-03-11 Thread Bob Martin
in 337600 20080310 222850 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Mar 10, 2:21 pm, Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Java is more portable than most other languages, especially if your app >> needs a gui. > >The promise of Java portability was one of the bi

Re: Need Script For read multiple files(.txt) from a folder

2008-03-14 Thread martin . laloux
use the glob module import os, glob dor = the path you want for dir, subdir, files in os.walk(dor): for file in files: if glob.fnmatch.fnmatch(file,"*.txt"): do what you want -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Huge problem gettng MySQLdb to work on my mac mini running Macosx 10.5 Leopard

2008-03-14 Thread martin . laloux
look at http://groups.google.be/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/d75a491b8dbc3880/0ca1fb7f7deca194?hl=fr&lnk=gst&q=laloux#0ca1fb7f7deca194 There is a macpython list that you can consult at http://www.nabble.com/Python---pythonmac-sig-f2970.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Getting started with OS X Leopard

2008-03-15 Thread martin . laloux
if you are not satisfied with the native version, why not install the official version directly from python site http://www.python.org/download/ (macpython) instead of using that of macports. It moreover is provided with many utilities There is a macpython list that you can consult at http://www.

Re: Strange problem with structs Linux vs. Mac

2008-03-16 Thread Martin Blume
#x27;, s) (516354996L,) See help(struct) for further information. This seems to imply that the Mac, although running now on Intel processors, is still big-endian. HTH Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Strange problem with structs Linux vs. Mac

2008-03-16 Thread Martin Blume
==struct.unpack(">I", s)[0] Anyway, when handling binary data across machines, I think it is proper to explicitly specify the endian-ness and to do sanity-checking of the results. Regards Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Strange problem with structs Linux vs. Mac

2008-03-18 Thread Martin Blume
27;, s)[0]==struct.unpack(">I", s)[0] > > Maybe a little more compact and readable: > > In [92]: sys.byteorder > Out[92]: 'little' > Yes, indeed it is more compact and readable. Thanks. Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How can I make a function equal to 0?

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Manns
Hi, Is there a way to create a function that is equal to 0? I try to redefine __cmp__ but I am pretty stuck. Something like: >>> def f(): return "" ... >>> # Some magic >>> f == 0 True Thanks in advance Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How can I make a function equal to 0?

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Manns
quot; for more information. >>> def f(): return 0 ... >>> f==0 False >>> f()==0 True >>> I do not want the function to return 0 but to equal 0. Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How can I make a function equal to 0?

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Manns
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Arnaud Delobelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 21, 7:48 pm, Martin Manns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do you want to do that? First thank you for your help, the callable object works. Basically I have a lot of functions inside

Re: How can I make a function equal to 0?

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Manns
> cell in the array as a function. > > If you drop this condition then you could fill the array with zeroes > as before, replace only the interesting ones with actual functions, > and write: > > for item in myarray[nonzero(myarray)]: > print item() if callable(item) els

Python 2.2.1 and select()

2008-03-24 Thread Derek Martin
rogram one could use to test this function... -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D pgpuxR0RACuHg.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.2.1 and select()

2008-03-24 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 05:52:54PM -0700, Noah wrote: > On Mar 24, 2:58 pm, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If and only if the total amount of output is greater than the > > specified buffer size, then reading on this file hangs indefinitely. > I think this

Re: Python 2.2.1 and select()

2008-03-26 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:49:51AM -0700, Noah Spurrier wrote: > On 2008-03-24 22:03-0400, Derek Martin wrote: > >That's an interesting thought, but I guess I'd need you to elaborate > >on how the buffering mode would affect the operation of select(). I > >really

Re: Python 2.2.1 and select()

2008-03-26 Thread Derek Martin
apter 3 for the stdio stuff, chapter 12 for non-blocking I/O, and chapter 14 for discussions about pipes, popen(), and how buffering modes can be controlled by your program and how that affects the child. Don't get me wrong... pexpect is useful. But some of the problems you're trying to

Building a "safe" python?

2008-03-27 Thread martin . nordstrom87
d the mod wants to import a .py-file that is not in the game directory it will search for the .py-file in the python directory that is installed on my computer. Can I somehow prevent the embedded python to look in the python directory? Thanks! Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is subprocess.Popen completely broken?

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Blume
"Istvan Albert" schrieb > > > Is subprocess.Popen completely broken? > > Your lack of faith in Python is somewhat > disturbing ... > I have consistently made the experience that when I was about to ask "is X completely broken", the error was on my s

Re: chronic error with python on mac os/x 10.5

2008-03-28 Thread martin . laloux
I don't known pjsip but this problem generally occurs when the library (dylib) on which the file (.so) depends is not the good one > Googling this issue show that it is happening to many > libraries in python on mac. ?? I am working in python on mac since a lot of time I seldom have such prob

Problem with format string and unicode

2008-03-28 Thread Hans Martin
Hi, this is probably a trivial problem, but a google search for "python" and "unicode" and" format string" gives too many hits: If I specify e.g. "%20s" in a format string and the string value contains UTF-8 stuff (differing number of bytes per character), the length of the resulting string (in ch

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Bob Martin
in 100686 20090203 181957 Catherine Heathcote wrote: >Tim Rowe wrote: >> 2009/2/3 Jervis Whitley : >> >>> real programmers use ed. >> >> Ed? Eee, tha' were lucky. We had to make holes in Hollerith cards wi' >> our bare teeth... >> > >You had teeth!?! > >Oh and hi, I shall be a new face in the cro

Re: Official definition of call-by-value (Re: Finding the instance reference...)

2008-11-23 Thread Derek Martin
r that it has (and needs) no intrinsic-value. > > To me, that seems just as silly as arguing that zero is not a number, or > that white pixels are "nothing" and black pixels are "something". Or > maybe they should be the other way around? > > None is No

Re: Matplotlib on Leopard Mac OS

2008-11-27 Thread martin . laloux
You must install numpy or scipy before installing matplotlib. If you do not want to do it yourself you cand download Scipy superpack "This shell script will install recent SVN builds of Numpy (1.3) and Scipy (0.7), as well as Matplotlib (0.98), iPython (0.8.3) and PyMC (2.0 beta) for OS X 10.5 (Le

Re: Matplotlib on Leopard Mac OS

2008-11-27 Thread martin . laloux
You must install numpy or scipy before installing matplotlib. If you do not want to do it yourself you cand download Scipy superpack "This shell script will install recent SVN builds of Numpy (1.3) and Scipy (0.7), as well as Matplotlib (0.98), iPython (0.8.3) and PyMC (2.0 beta) for OS X 10.5 (Le

Which sparse matrix package?

2008-12-18 Thread Martin Manns
sparse matrices (or multi-dim arrays)? Should I use another type of matrix in scipy.sparse? If yes which? Does a different data-structure suit my above-stated needs better? Best Regards Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-02 Thread Derek Martin
This is also false, it even has its own operator (which requires Unicode to display): ≡ Still, the point you're trying to make is right: this stuff is hard to talk about, and the model actually encourages the use of ambiguous or even contradictory explanations. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-02 Thread Derek Martin
fused at how this could possibly happen, and often enough actually seem offended (or at least offensive) when it inevitably does happen... -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D pgp6S7INF1qUN.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-02 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:43:30AM -0500, Steve Holden wrote: > Derek Martin wrote: > > What the Python community often overlooks, when this discussion again > > rears its ugly head (as it seems to every other hour or so), is that > > its assignment model is BIZARRE, as

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-02 Thread Derek Martin
an experienced programmer 10 minutes to understand variable assignment. :) [Note that I'm including the semantics for passing arguments to functions as part of "assignment" for purposes of this discussion.] -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D pgpkihamKsYya.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-02 Thread Derek Martin
t of identity in mathematics precisely because it is unnecessary: 1 is always 1, by definition. But that is the definition of "is"... :) But the discussion is bordering on philosophy, and I will resign from it at this point, having previously made the points I intended to. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D pgpAiEkpMH3gD.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-04 Thread Derek Martin
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 10:15:51AM +, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:39:15 -0600, Derek Martin wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 02:21:29PM +, John O'Hagan wrote: > > What the Python community often overlooks, when this discuss

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-04 Thread Derek Martin
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 11:38:46AM -0600, Grant Edwards wrote: > > Or are they also "BIZARRE"!? > > One presumes that Mr. Martin finds anything different from his > first computer language to be BIZARRE. He should try out > Prolog or something genuinely different.

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-04 Thread Derek Martin
raditional assignment model, and despite your protestations of lack of proof, I'm pretty sure you agree. ;-) Ultimately, none of this really matters, as perhaps my point is that Python *is different* from what A LOT of folks learning it have already seen (if anything), and it&

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-04 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 09:56:33PM -0600, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-01-05, Derek Martin wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 11:38:46AM -0600, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> One presumes that Mr. Martin finds anything different from his > >> first computer language to be

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-04 Thread Derek Martin
Forgive my indulgence, I find this rather academic discussion kind of interesting, as it turns out. On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 10:55:09PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: > > You can't argue that one semantic or another is more intuitive > > without offering evidence. > > I think

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-05 Thread Derek Martin
fferent model than what they are used to. Often this happens, but too often not without someone also letting the OP know what a mindless jerk he is... *This* is the "common understanding" which I'd hoped could be reached... But you were right... it's very difficult for pe

Re: How do you get rid of useless warnings?

2008-10-07 Thread Martin Geisler
specified warning category. The full class name must be given. The module field matches the (fully-qualified) module name; this match is case-sensitive. The line field matches the line num- ber, where zero matches all line numbers and is thus equivalent

Re: Using subprocess module to launch a shell shell script that itself forks a process

2008-10-09 Thread Derek Martin
. Please explain why it doesn't. The most likely cause of the behavior you are seeing is the deadlock I described, above. Using select() (i.e. using communicate()) should generally fix about half the cases... The rest would be fixed by redirecting STDIN of the child (or at least the Java p

Re: Set Environment for java based tools thru python script

2008-10-14 Thread Derek Martin
n parsing, setting the environment variables appropriately. A child process, in general, can not insert environment variables into the environment of its parent. If what you're trying to do isn't covered by the above, then I think you'll need to try to explain it better. -- Derek D. Mart

urllib accept-language doesn't have any effect

2008-10-15 Thread Martin Bachwerk
27;,'en-gb,en;q=0.5'), ('User-agent', 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1')] webfile = opener.open(url) Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: urllib accept-language doesn't have any effect

2008-10-15 Thread Martin Bachwerk
But a site like gizmodo.com forwards me directly to the English site (even though they have a German version available). But the Python call returns the German version. How does that make sense? Cheers, Martin Martin Bachwerk wrote: Hello, I'm trying to load a couple of pages using

Re: urllib accept-language doesn't have any effect

2008-10-16 Thread Martin Bachwerk
is doesn't quit help :( Thanks anyway, Martin On Oct 16, 2008, at 6:50 AM, Martin Bachwerk wrote: Hmm, thanks for the ideas, I've checked the requests in Firefox one more time after deleting all the cookies and both google.com and gizmodo.com do indeed forward me to the German site

Re: urllib accept-language doesn't have any effect

2008-10-16 Thread Martin Bachwerk
away.. soo.. Is there a way to pretend I'm from the US and not from wherever else? I tried setting the X_FORWARDED_FOR header, but that doesn't seem to work.. There must be some way to override the client IP, or? Thanks again. Martin On Oct 15, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Martin Bachwerk

Re: indentation

2008-10-19 Thread Derek Martin
python # vim:ts=4:sw=4:expandtab Though of course, using this kind of mechanism quickly becomes gross if everyone is using a different editor, and they all support a similar but different mechanism for doing so. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D pgpWonPLlq6C1.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python equivalent for C module

2008-10-20 Thread Derek Martin
ouldn't see the parameter msg, which was passed via the call. Most unexpected, and definitely undesirable. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D pgp4DKmvYHFbt.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python equivalent for C module

2008-10-20 Thread Derek Martin
uot;it" is "its" with no apostrophe. This was the only thing of value which you contributed, though really, using that is way overkill for my needs. If I've written bad code, by all means, please correct it. If I've written code in a style that you happen not to like, please

Re: Python equivalent for C module

2008-10-20 Thread Derek Martin
just trying to preempt the pound of attitude that often goes with the ounce of answers. But if the choice is between no answer, and an answer that barely manages to avoid calling me an idiot (especially over coding style), I'd rather have no answer. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D pgp1spA6WQhn4.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python equivalent for C module

2008-10-20 Thread Derek Martin
d thing was, I remembered it actually working. And it had... In between testing the two cases, I'd accidentally deleted the module and had to recreate it. The first time no bug, second time, well, resutled in this thread. I'm chalking the whole thing up to coding when not sufficiently a

Using python22.dll with Python 2.5?

2008-10-22 Thread Martin Schneider
ea how to solve this? Thanks for your ideas. Best regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Two-dimensional array tutorial?

2008-10-22 Thread Martin Schneider
Hi! I'd like to handle two-dimensional arrays. My first choice, the numpy library, doesn't seem to be an option due to compatibility issues (see my other thread about python22.dll). Is there a tutorial somewhere how to handle 2d-arrays with vanilla Python? Thanks and best regar

Re: Two-dimensional array tutorial?

2008-10-22 Thread Martin Schneider
Diez B. Roggisch schrieb: Can't you just get Numpy (or it's predecessors, Numeric) compiled against ptyhon2.2? I tried Numeric, but e.g. it doesn't seem to feature transpose... How do I compile Numpy against python2.2? :-) Thanks for your answers and best regards,

Re: Two-dimensional array tutorial?

2008-10-22 Thread Martin Schneider
Robert Kern schrieb: Martin Schneider wrote: I tried Numeric, but e.g. it doesn't seem to feature transpose... Yes, it does. Numeric.transpose() Then I must have made a mistake. I'll look into it. Thanks for the correction. How do I compile Numpy against python2.2? :-) You c

Re: How to examine the inheritance of a class?

2008-10-24 Thread Derek Martin
's a semantic argument, but John's semantics are fine. A library is code intended to be consumed by developers. The developers *are* the users of the library. *End users* use applications, not libraries. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D pgpug97

Re: dictionary

2008-10-26 Thread Bob Martin
in 86949 20081024 205720 "Hendrik van Rooyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >>On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:53:19 +, Peter Pearson wrote: >> >>> On 24 Oct 2008 13:17:45 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: What are programmers coming to these days? When I was their age, we >>>

Type feedback tool?

2008-10-26 Thread Martin Vilcans
Hi list, I'm wondering if there's a tool that can analyze a Python program while it runs, and generate a database with the types of arguments and return values for each function. In a way it is like a profiler, that instead of measuring how often functions are called and how long time it takes, it

Re: Type feedback tool?

2008-10-27 Thread Martin Vilcans
c. There's more work to be done to make this a robust tool (which is why I was hoping there already existed a tool for this). It should handle varargs and keyword arguments properly, and probably needs to handle exceptions better. I'll see if I can run it on real code tomorrow and see if th

Re: Python suitable for Midi ?

2008-10-28 Thread Derek Martin
n two: one process manages the GUI, and the second is a back-end process that plays the MIDI. Your GUI can even launch the back end, which will inherit the priority of the GUI, after which the GUI can reduce its own priority (the priority of the back end will not be affected by the change)... --

calling python from lisp

2008-10-28 Thread Martin Rubey
;libpython2.4.so.1.0" "libpython2.3.so.1.0")) (:windows (:or "python25.dll" "python24.dll" "python23.dll") ) (t (:default "libpython"))) Sage comes with it's own python, however, without a library. On the otherhand, above I demonstrated that

Re: open a shell prompt froma python program

2008-10-30 Thread Derek Martin
's not "built in" like it is in Windows). X works as a client-server model, and you need to make sure X authentication is handled properly. Depending on what you are doing, this can be either very easy, or very complicated. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID:

Re: open a shell prompt froma python program

2008-10-30 Thread Derek Martin
imple as: cmd = "whatever your shell command is" os.system(cmd) -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D pgpjESdNVsDLA.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Official definition of call-by-value (Re: Finding the instance reference...)

2008-11-16 Thread Derek Martin
iven expression or context. If you like, you could think of the value of an object as the set of all possible values to which the object may evaluate in every possible context, given a particular state of the object. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75

Re: Official definition of call-by-value (Re: Finding the instance reference...)

2008-11-16 Thread Derek Martin
sentation of the date when printed, and a numeric value (or some other time object) when used in other expressions, both from a philisophical and practical standpoint. Furthermore it falls down semantically; an object has parts that are not part of its value, and therefore the value and the objec

Re: Official definition of call-by-value (Re: Finding the instance reference...)

2008-11-16 Thread Derek Martin
the value of x==y does indeed depend on the behavior of the methods. > I think the value of x is "a thing which claims to be equal to > everything on Tuesdays, and equal to nothing every other day". That isn't its *VALUE* -- it's its *IDENTITY*. My weight is not my ide

Re: Official definition of call-by-value (Re: Finding the instance reference...)

2008-11-16 Thread Derek Martin
> > This definition looks a bit circular to me ;) Why, because it has the word "value" in the definition? It's not circular. The thing being defined is "value of an object". The word "value" has a pre-existing well-understood natural language definiti

Re: Nimrod programming language

2009-05-12 Thread Martin Vilcans
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Andreas Rumpf wrote: > Dear Python-users, > > I invented a new programming language called "Nimrod" that combines Python's > readability with C's performance. Please check it out: > http://force7.de/nimrod/ > Any feedback is appreciated. Nice with a language with

Re: Nimrod programming language

2009-05-13 Thread Martin Vilcans
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:10 PM, wrote: >> You can certainly have a string type that uses byte arrays in UTF-8 >> encoding internally, but your string functions should be aware of that >> and treat it as a unicode string. The len function and index operators >> should count characters, not bytes.

ANN: pyspread 0.0.5

2008-05-13 Thread Martin Manns
ttp://pyspread.sourceforge.net Best Regards Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ANN: pyspread 0.0.6

2008-05-13 Thread Martin Manns
On Tue, 13 May 2008 00:23:12 +0200 Martin Manns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: pyspread 0.0.5 has been released. It is a bugfix release for Mac and Windows. > -- > > About: > pyspread is a spreadsheet that accepts a pure python expression in > each cell. > > -- > &

Re: Install Python MySQL db module?

2008-05-15 Thread martin . laloux
search, search, it is a recurrent question for example http://groups.google.be/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/7bef767753fe40f1/a3fd7c2dd7a50bef?hl=fr&lnk=gst&q=mysqldb+mac#a3fd7c2dd7a50bef -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python confusion possibly related to pickle

2008-05-18 Thread Derek Martin
> earlier caused. Why is this ? Well, what's the error? Sounds like your system could be b0rked (or at least your python installation)... but depending on the error, there could be other explanations. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D pgpkARlxW8Y91.p

distutils directory problem

2008-05-18 Thread Martin Manns
'Intended Audience :: End Users/Desktop', ], author='Martin Manns', author_email='[EMAIL PROTECTED]', url='http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyspread/', packages=['pyspread'], package_dir={'pyspread': &#

Re: self.var hmm?

2008-05-20 Thread Martin Marcher
roup.group def addTask(self, task): self.group.append(task) hth martin On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:58 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > class TaskGroup: >def __init__(self): >self.group = [] > >def addTask(self, task): >self.group.append(task) > > > is th

Re: preserve history in the interactive python

2008-05-20 Thread Martin Marcher
. > BTW, I got it from http://docs.python.org/tut/node15.html. A little search Didn't even think of that, now that I have it: I love you - it's great. To the one that implemented this: If you ever come to vienna, drop me a note I'll get you a $FAVORITE_DRINK_HERE /martin -- http://www.xing.co

Re: Newbie Question: How to use a .pth file on a Macintosh

2008-05-25 Thread martin . laloux
you put your pth file in (same configuration: /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site- packages/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Getting a set of lambda functions

2008-05-25 Thread Martin Manns
for func in func_strings] >>> len(funclist) 4 >>> len(set(funclist)) 4 >>> funclist[0].func_code == funclist[3].func_code True >>> funclist[0] == funclist[3] False Thanks in advance Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Getting a set of lambda functions

2008-05-25 Thread Martin Manns
On Sun, 25 May 2008 12:14:25 + (UTC) Ivan Illarionov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2008 13:43:15 +0200, Martin Manns wrote: > > Maybe make a set of code objects? > > func_code_set = set([f.func_code for f in funclist]) > > funclist = [] > fo

Re: Getting a set of lambda functions

2008-05-25 Thread Martin Manns
;__reduce__', '__reduce_ex__', '__repr__', '__setattr__', '__str__', 'func_closure', 'func_code', 'func_defaults', 'func_dict', 'func_doc', 'func_globals', 'func_name'] Should func_globals and func_name also be taken into account for __eq__()? Best Regards Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

running on WinPC + comunication via USB

2008-05-30 Thread martin . nkm
Hello, I have two questions. 1/ If I want to use Python and let my WinPC communicate via RS-232 with external embedded computer I know there is a pyserial module, which I can use it. But what will happen if I want to replace RS-232 by USB? I know I can have virtual COM port, but all the configurati

pyspread 0.0.7

2008-06-01 Thread Martin Manns
for relative reference Requires: Python >=2.4, Numpy 1.0.4, and wxPython 2.8.7.1. License: GPL Project page: http://pyspread.sourceforge.net Best Regards Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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