across in HTML.
Program listings are much more readable on my website.
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:15:25 GMT, CBFalconer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote or quoted :
> It also
>interferes with the use of AsciiArt,
second only in irritation to spam.
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lems rather than wear a hair shirt. Same for email. Why should
rich expressions only be permitted to those with websites.
Some people use email PRIMARILY for sharing photos.
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nt I don't even have.
I would suggest then a better solution is to implement CSS in email,
the way you do in browsers to deal with that same problem.
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because there was a bug in the Windows
JVM. FIX THE BUG.
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e attacks
>(pages that open two windows when you close one), etc.
Just how long do you want to stall evolution? Do you imagine people
200 years from now will be still be using pure ASCII text unable to
find a solution to JavaScript viruses (turn off JS), pop-up( disable
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>If you've got a browser with a better solution, what's the browser,
>and what's the solution?
Try Opera. You can merge the two.
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general correspondence.
How should you use rich text appropriately.
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ient for the technopeasant receiver than
dealing with multiple attachments.
People keep thinking of email as a techie preserve.
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t for the future? The problems blocking easy to use
photo sharing are not technological but social.
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I talk around those problems.
It requires a fresh start.
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Then try out the feature. Click View | style | user
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them to automatically run any code. It is
unfair to blame formatting for the foolish practice off allowing
untrusted code to run without even an ok. They have nothing to do
with each other.
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your obsolete software? How could anything every evolve with that
attitude?
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somewhere on a webserver.
There is that and also the use of HTML formatting, embedded images,
captioning, rows, borders to make the message look more like a page
from a photo album.
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o help someone repair
their computer? It is ridiculous to tie people's arms behind their
backs. What you do instead is work to prevent abuse. Captions in and
of themselves are not dangerous things.
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You don't have to use Outlook. see
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are a great many of them, people have written software that can
interface to many of them such as Trillian or Jabber.
see http://mindprod.com/projects/mailreadernewsreader.html
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very clever virus could change the one address book entry, the one for
this computer, in other's machines. It could not generally corrupt
other machines.
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t you. Companies could do the same
thing.
You can inconvenience the sender to a fair degree since most people
don't often write strangers with the expectation of a personal
correspondence.
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is the conversational style where you discuss one major
point at a time, perhaps with several threads, one for each point.
These threads meander or split off themselves.
My preference is to think of a post, other than perhaps the initial
essay post, as like a paragraph. It should stick to
slow them down with requests for permission to send. they
could send only one per certificate. The cost and hassle of getting
the certificate could deter tem, and uniquely identify them for
blocking and public black lists.
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remember his no for at least a year.
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idise spam.
3. Mail is not transported without prior permission. The receiver can
turn that permission on and off any time he chooses. This is
basically an automated version of what Zaep does where the sender is
not consciously aware of the permission-getting step.
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air to tar them with the brush of JavaScript or the goofy things
Outlook does with enclosures.
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M. It costs them almost nothing to send a spam,
and even at the weakest response percentages they still make money.
It is almost like providing ladders and setting out cookies and milk
for the burglars.
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I don't see
any advantage in wearing a hair shirt. That is an unnatural way to
talk.
I know hundreds of people who would have not the tiniest clue what
that email meant. You are indeed fortunate to have landed such a
wife.
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to understand them.
You suggest there is something nefarious about wanting to caption and
share images by email. Why NOT?
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x27;s been done with crayolas? Good grief, man,
> think like a three year old!"
that excuse could also be used to explain why you have not cracked a
book since high school. The same tools that create dancing bears can
do a UML diagram.
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On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 16:42:02 +0200, Stefaan A Eeckels
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>> > http://mindprod.com/projects.html/mailreadernewsreader.html
>
>It's gone :-)
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quot;wrong", not "confusing".
In encryption the key you give others to encrypt messages to you is
called the "public key". It is not public in the sense of everyone
knows it.
What term do you suggest?
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is is why I wanted a protocol where that was automated.
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addresses, just add one. That was
solved by legal means. It could come back as long distance rates drop
and some country harbours them.
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d read:
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ded by digital ids expensive
enough people won't change them like underwear).
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ng
content and style is none of our business. Our job is to help get
messages through reliably, safely and efficiently.
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:35:58 -0700, Alan Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote or quoted :
>And they don't know about attachments?
Attachments are geeky kludge.
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gt;
>My copy of Opera doesn't have that menu entry. I suspect you're making
>platform-specific suggestions.
Because you did not seem to be aware of the Opera features. I don't
know what version you have or what platform you are using. The only
one I can help you with is Opera 8
of thumb is I would not accept photos from the
general public, only from a subset of my correspondendents. That
makes a photo a strong spam indicator. Then there are small corporate
logos, which are innocuous. Spamnix does not have such a filtering
rule.
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mail
looks like a little poster for the event.
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utiae, and the desire for a perfect ant-spam
solution has blocked getting on with a reasonable solution.
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s are really going links are
no more dangerous than they are in browser.
Even a form is not dangerous. You have to fill it in and hit submit.
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code in emails. That is the problem. It has nothing to
do with formatting or pictures.
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:12:46 +1000, Steven D'Aprano
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted :
>Suppose I wanted to gather industrial espionage about, oh, say Roedy
>Green. If my virus could impersonate him, I could tell everyone in sight
>that his email has changed to [EMAIL PRO
Interpol has a much better handle on putting him in jail.
He can't repudiate his phishing attempt.
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of people's
address books being filled with obsolete email addresses. And of
course one of the reasons they are is people keep changing their email
addresses to hide on spam. I am just saving as lot of busy work
keeping them up to date.
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oking permissions for you and prioritising your mail.
The riffraff are not on this net, only those with certificates, people
of distinction. Software in designed so a secretary can monitor and
manage several other VIP's mail.
Recall that there were intra-net emails long before the Int
il, not
because they have a large market share.
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MS refused to believe the Internet was more than a
passing fad. They are still frantically patching security holes in
their OS over a decade later.
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s?)
There also had that Passport thing. They probably figured they would
take over Internet commerce and get rich off the user fees.
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and
distribution, not whether it can run a given piece of software.
Web apps, Java and other multiplatform tools force OSes to compete on
quality, not on proprietary lockin.
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standard though, but when people
>babble about HTML standards they talk about W3C *recommendations*.
What do you think the Internet is based on? RFCs. That stands for
"Request For Comment". It is an in-sort of Internet humour to name
standards that way.
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OSes.
That meant a customer who wanted OS/2 had to effectively also buy an
unwanted copy of Windows. How could OS/2 compete?
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educed in price, MS software
has increased.
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in them.
2. You can reasonably quickly turn computer printouts or paper
documents into web content.
3. You don't have to guess what the end user will see.
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see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/sqlvendors.html
Here is a field where there is healthy competition.
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UN, a branch on the
US government tree?
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:17:03 -0400, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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>
>Yup. When NS was the 800 lb gorilla on they acted like MS,
I think you would need to give some examples. They gave away a free
browser. What other evil thing did they do?
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grossly unfair price advantage.
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t bribed Bush to
pull the plug on the prosecution.
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:37:35 -0700, Alan Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote or quoted :
>You've been around long enough to learn to recognize this poster and
>ignore him.
Sounds like your plonk filter is on the fritz then.
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:43:16 -0700, "David Schwartz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted :
>I understand why the argument is invalid. I'm presenting it as an
>example of a similar invalid argument.
Not every post is meant to contradict or inform the OP.
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x27;s products at the center, using anything short of force or fraud.
I think that what they did borders on force/fraud.
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ng as it isn't force/fraud.
I avoid MS products whenever possible. Surely others feel the same
way because we have had it up to the teeth with MS dirty tactics. That
has to be factored into profitability as well.
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>I didn't think unicode domain names existed.
you can even buy them. See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/domainnames.html
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ad thing.
>>
>> Because ... what are the consequences?
>
>If you mean if you are put in jail for 20 years, and tortured, none.
No. ANY consequences. You have not explained the downside.
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n help let spammers know if they have reached a human :-|
If you think about it, much as you hate spammers you WANT them to have
that information. If you never read spam, and they know that, they
eventually might stop sending it to you and focus on the nitwits who
read it.
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You still have spam to a lesser extent and strangers just wanting to
talk.
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tely on that sort of issue.
I started gay lib in my part of the world purely as a "futile moral
gesture". Within 2 years to my utter amazement, we had the gay rights
legislation.
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novel.
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almost as convincing as "that's what you think".
If your only obligation is to a group of person, that makes you a sort
of slave. What about obligations to family, community, yourself?
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if making maximum profit for the
shareholders were the only consideration in determining conduct.
If that is not what you mean, I think you need to hedge more.
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fired. The company exists as a vehicle to execute the
>desires of the shareholders. That's why they get to vote on who runs it.
Why should loyalty to company trump all other loyalties -- family,
law, species, community, country, religion ... ?
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you can't divorce
that from the people who do the actions.
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ore a thread. If your newsreader does not support that feature,
try an different newsreader. See
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It is a big thread. Obviously people are interested in it even if you
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e shareholders. All other obligations come from the
>harm these failures will do to the shareholders.
That's the view of Republican, but it is not the only view. Some
might say the law trumps that. It does not matter if breaking the law
would be more profitable, you still don't do it.
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On 19 Oct 2005 09:41:09 GMT, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote or quoted :
>As far as I understand you, the company should ship the faulty model.
This is what they do. However, I find it odd people seriously
suggesting that is the way society SHOULD run.
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If what they did to me in the 90s was not illegal it damn well should
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is worth.
The choice was go along with MS arm twisting or go out of business.
I call that extortion.
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:00:31 GMT, Roedy Green
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted :
>The choice was go along with MS arm twisting or go out of business.
>
>I call that extortion.
I deeply resent this, because they not only ripped me off, they put me
a in position I felt compelled
Why should the standards of acceptable conduct be any lower for groups
of people (namely corporations) than individuals?
It would be like excusing bad behaviour based on other group
memberships such as churches or gangs.
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job. Can
you imagine herding the cats of egotistical dictators and politicians
from every country on earth who have not a clue about what the
function of domain are?
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 23:16:24 GMT, Roedy Green
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted :
>>As well as blame. The commercialization of the Internet was grossly
>>mismanaged. Take the InterNIC - please!
>
>As global bureaucracies go, I think they have done a good job. Can
>y
got to do
with the price of eggs?
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immoral scheme to screw OS/2 or go out of business. Your choice."
I call that extortion, even if their lawyers were careful enough to
skirt the letter of the law.
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put it this way. The pressured me into selling my soul.
They did not tempt me into it. They threatened to destroy my business
and my livelihood if I did not knuckle under. That is extortion.
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>hundreds of millions of spam emails?
Of course he cares. He is a shill. He licks that hand that feeds him.
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