What does it mean when io.TextIOBase.encoding is None

2015-03-19 Thread Rocco
None is a valid value for io.TextIOBase.encoding, then why is it not a valid value for bytes.encode()? Regards, Rocco -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

why not in python 2.4.3

2006-05-28 Thread Rocco
hi I made the upgrade to python 2.4.3 from 2.4.2. I want to take from google news some atom feeds with a funtion like this import urllib2 def takefeed(url): request=urllib2.Request(url) request.add_header('User-Agent', 'Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT') opener

Re: why not in python 2.4.3

2006-05-28 Thread Rocco
This is the problem when I run the function this is the result from 2.3.5 >>> print rss http://purl.org/atom/ns#";>NFE/1.0Google News Italiahttp://news.google.it/"/>Google News ItaliaGoogle Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]©2006 Google2006-05-28T19:09:13+00:00 Benedetto XVI: Wojtyla santo subito - LibertÃ

Re: why not in python 2.4.3

2006-05-29 Thread Rocco
Also with ascii the function does not work. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why not in python 2.4.3

2006-05-29 Thread Rocco
Thanks Serge. It's a gzip string. So the code is >>> import urllib2 >>> def takefeed(url): request=urllib2.Request(url) request.add_header('User-Agent', 'Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5;Windows NT') opener = urllib2.build_opener() data=opener.open(request).read()

Re: looking for atomixlib

2006-03-16 Thread Rocco
here you'll find it in svn. http://trac.defuze.org/browser/oss -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

2005-09-29 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:16:02 +1000 > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >>Say you have written a class, with a private variable. I decide that I >>need access to that variable, for reasons you never foresaw. > > What if the access to that variable was forbidden for reasons you ne

Re: A rather unpythonic way of doing things

2005-09-29 Thread Rocco Moretti
fraca7 wrote: > Richie Hindle a écrit : > >> [Peter] >> >>> http://www.pick.ucam.org/~ptc24/yvfc.html >> >> >> >> [Jeff] >> >>> Yuma Valley Agricultural Center? >>> Yaak Valley Forest Council? >> >> >> >> I went through the same process. My guess is "Yes, Very F'ing Clever." >> Peter? >> > > pri

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

2005-09-30 Thread Rocco Moretti
Antoon Pardon wrote: >>What if the class author removes a non-private variable or changes a >>method's documented parameters in the next version of the class, because >>he think it'll work better, or just because he can? > > Changing an interface is different from changing the implementation.

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

2005-09-30 Thread Rocco Moretti
Paul Rubin wrote: > I don't know of a single program that's actually relying on the > non-enforcement. I've asked for examples but have only gotten > theoretical ones. As far as I can tell, the feature is useless. I'd like to turn the question around on you - can you come up with an instance w

Re: [Info] PEP 308 accepted - new conditional expressions

2005-09-30 Thread Rocco Moretti
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote: > Hi, > > after Guido's pronouncement yesterday, in one of the next versions of Python > there will be a conditional expression with the following syntax: > > X if C else Y Any word on chaining? That is, what would happen with the following constructs: A if B else C

Re: Reply-To header

2005-10-03 Thread Rocco Moretti
Roel Schroeven wrote: > Peter Decker wrote: > >>On 10/3/05, Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>On lists like this, where everyone benefits by sharing information, it >>seems pretty lame to hide behind purist arguments about Reply-To: >>headers. The default behavior should be the one mo

Re: When someone from Britain speaks, Americans hear a "British accent"...

2005-10-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
Steve Holden wrote: >> On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 00:33:43 -, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> For example: In British English one uses a plural verb when the >>> subject consists of more than one person. Sports teams, >>> government departments, states, corporations etc. are gramma

Re: When someone from Britain speaks, Americans hear a "Britishaccent"...

2005-10-10 Thread Rocco Moretti
Duncan Smith wrote: > Steve Holden wrote: > >>There are special rules for the monarchs, who are expected to refer to >>themselves in the first person plural. >> > > Yes, although I'm not actually sure where the 'royal we' comes from; I was under the (probably misinformed) impression that since

Re: Very dumb question

2005-10-12 Thread Rocco Moretti
Laszlo Zsolt Nagy wrote: > Laszlo Zsolt Nagy wrote: > >> I have a program with this code fragment: >> >>print len(data) >>print data[:50] >>raise SystemExit >> >> This prints: >> >> 20381 >> > >> But if I change 50 to 51 >> >>print len(data) >>print data[:51] >>raise System

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-20 Thread Rocco Moretti
James Stroud wrote: > I propose that any time anyone suggests switching to Windows, the reasons for > such should be explicitly described, and not left to interpretation. I propose that any time anyone suggests switching to Linux ... I propose that any time anyone suggests switching to Mac ... I

Re: Suggestion for (re)try statement

2005-10-28 Thread Rocco Moretti
Sori Schwimmer wrote: > Hi, > > I think that would be useful to have an improved > version of the "try" statement, as follows: > > try(retrys=0,timeout=0): > # things to try > except: > # what to do if failed > > and having the following semantic: > > for i in range(retrys): > try: >

Re: Python's website does a great disservice to the language

2005-11-01 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So the first thing you do when you go to a web page is to google if > they are going to redesign it? I think the implication was "The first thing to do before *suggesting that a redesign is nessasary* is to Google to see if such a redesign is taking place." -- http://

Re: Suggestion for (re)try statement

2005-11-02 Thread Rocco Moretti
n always reply to the original post, or reply to one, and just treat the topics from all of them.) > 2) Rocco Morreti wrote: First off, let me say that my message wasn't meant to scare you off - it was constructive criticism, appraising you of what would be necessary if you actually want

Re: Python's website does a great disservice to the language

2005-11-03 Thread Rocco Moretti
Alex Martelli wrote: > The Eternal Squire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... > >>2) Consider what he really wants for a supervisor of software >>engineers. Ideally such a person should be a software engineer with >>at least 3 times the experience of the most junior member. Such a > > > I li

Re: I Need Motivation Part 2

2005-11-04 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i m losing my motivation with python because there are sooo many > modules, that i cant just learn them all, As other's have said, don't bother. If you ever need to use a module that you don't know, just go to http://docs.python.org/lib/lib.html (easily accessable fr

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
Paul McGuire wrote: > "Claire McLister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to > map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of > emails to this group at: > > http://www.zees

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rocco Moretti wrote: > >>It's also a testament to the limited value of physically locating people >>by internet addresses - If you zoom in on the San Fransico bay area, and >>click on the southern most bubble (south of San Jose), you'l

Re: Proposal for adding symbols within Python

2005-11-14 Thread Rocco Moretti
Pierre Barbier de Reuille wrote: > Please, note that I am entirely open for every points on this proposal > (which I do not dare yet to call PEP). I still don't see why you can't just use strings. The only two issues I see you might have with them are a) two identical strings might not be identi

Re: is parameter an iterable?

2005-11-15 Thread Rocco Moretti
marduk wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 11:01 -0800, py wrote: > >>I have function which takes an argument. My code needs that argument >>to be an iterable (something i can loop over)...so I dont care if its a >>list, tuple, etc. So I need a way to make sure that the argument is an >>iterable befo

Re: Proposal for adding symbols within Python

2005-11-15 Thread Rocco Moretti
Björn Lindström wrote: > Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Why does the byte string "\x6f\x70\x65\x6e\x65\x64" have intrinsic >>meaning when the int 0 doesn't? It certainly doesn't mean anything to >>non-English speakers. >> >>If all you want is human readable byte strings, then j

Re: Proposal for adding symbols within Python

2005-11-16 Thread Rocco Moretti
Pierre Barbier de Reuille wrote: > Rocco Moretti a écrit : > [...] > >> >>I did, but I still don't see why it is an argument against using >>strings. The point you may not appreciate is that (C)Python already uses >>strings to represent names, as an important

Re: Adding through recursion

2005-11-18 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There is problaly a really simple answer to this, but why does this > function print the correct result but return "None": > > def add(x, y): > if x == 0: > print y > return y > else: > x -= 1 > y += 1 > add(x, y) > > prin

Re: [Fwd: Re: hex string to hex value]

2005-11-22 Thread Rocco Moretti
tim wrote: > ok, but if i do > > >>> n=66 > >>> m=hex(n) > >>> m > '0x42' > >>> h=int(m,16) > >>> h > 66 > >>> > > I end up with 66 again, back where I started, a decimal, right? > I want to end up with 0x42 as being a hex value, not a string, so i can > pas it as an argument to a function

Re: Which License Should I Use?

2005-11-28 Thread Rocco Moretti
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:30:46 -0800, mojosam wrote: > >>I guess I don't care too much about how other people use it. > > Then probably the best licence to use is just to follow the lead of > Python. For that sort of small program of limited value, I put something > like th

Re: Which License Should I Use?

2005-11-28 Thread Rocco Moretti
mojosam wrote: > I've been watching the flame war about licenses with some interest. > There are many motivations for those who participate in this sector, so > disagreements over licenses reflect those agendas. One point that frequently gets ignored in licensing debates: The value of a license i

Re: General question about Python design goals

2005-12-01 Thread Rocco Moretti
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Rick Wotnaz wrote: > > >>I'm sure Antoon wouldn't object if lists were to be allowed as >>dictionary keys, which would eliminate the multiple castings for >>that situation. I wouldn't, either. > > so what algorithm do you suggest for the new dictionary im- > plementation?

Re: General question about Python design goals

2005-12-01 Thread Rocco Moretti
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Rocco Moretti wrote: > >>>>I'm sure Antoon wouldn't object if lists were to be allowed as >>>>dictionary keys, which would eliminate the multiple castings for >>>>that situation. I wouldn't, either. >>

Re: python university search

2005-12-05 Thread Rocco Moretti
josh wrote: > > hello, > > i am interested in doing an undergraduate major in computer science > that mainly focuses on python as a programming language.. It's your life, so you can live it as you choose, but I think you're missing the point of an undergraduate education if you focus too much o

Re: Documentation suggestions

2005-12-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
A.M. Kuchling wrote: > There's another struggle within the LibRef: is it a reference or a > tutorial? Does it list methods in alphabetical order so you can look > them up, or does it list them in a pedagogically useful order? I > think it has to be a reference; if each section were to be a tutor

Re: Bitching about the documentation...

2005-12-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
>>>One of my favourite examples of obfuscated English is this grammatically >>>correct sentence: >>> >>>"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo." > > The punctuation is important. Reminds me of this old classic: Insert punctuation & capitalization to make the following

Re: Bitching about the documentation...

2005-12-08 Thread Rocco Moretti
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Rocco Moretti wrote: > > >>Insert punctuation & capitalization to make the following a correct and >>coherent (if not a little tourtured). >> >>fred where guido had had had had had had had had had had had a better >>effect on the

Re: How to find the type ...

2005-12-09 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thisisastring = "1" thisisanint = 1 type(thisisastring) > > > type(thisisanint) > > > thisisastring = int(thisisastring) thisisanint = str(thisisanint) type(thisisastring) > > > type(thisisanint) > > >>> print repr(thisisastring)

Re: Another scripting language implemented into Python itself?

2005-01-24 Thread Rocco Moretti
Roy Smith wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Quest Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, my question is simply this: is there an implementation of another scripting language into Python? Python *is* a scripting language. Why not just let your users write Python modules which you them impor

Re: Another scripting language implemented into Python itself?

2005-01-25 Thread Rocco Moretti
Bob Smith wrote: Rocco Moretti wrote: Python's also dangerous. Every time you do an "import module", you put your system at risk of crashing, having the hard-drive wiped Have you been drinking again? No, not really. The "every time" comment should be viewed in the same

Re: Another scripting language implemented into Python itself?

2005-01-25 Thread Rocco Moretti
Orlando Vazquez wrote: Jeff Shannon wrote: Because you cannot make Python secure against a malicious (or ignorant) user -- there's too much flexibility to be able to guard against every possible way in which user-code could harm the system. Parsing your own (limited) scripting language allows mu

Re: ANN: Tao Scripting Language 0.8.5 beta released!

2005-01-27 Thread Rocco Moretti
Limin Fu wrote: Dear all, I am glad to announce in this mailing list that the lastest version of a new scripting language has come out. Since you chose to announce it in this mailing list/newsgroup, may I suggest that a comparison with Python is in order? Since it is a new scripting language, I'm

Re: What is different with Python ?

2005-06-20 Thread Rocco Moretti
Andrea Griffini wrote: > Indeed when talking about if learning "C" can hinder > or help learning "C++" I remember thinking that to > learn "C++" *superficially* learning "C" first is > surely pointless or can even hinder. > But to learn "C++" deeply (with all its quirks) I > think that learning "C

Re: how to use more than 1 __init__ constructor in a class ?

2005-06-22 Thread Rocco Moretti
scott wrote: > hi people, > > can someone tell me, how to use a class like that* (or "simulate" more > than 1 constructor) : > #-- > class myPointClass: > def __init__(self, x=0, y=0): > self.x = x > self.y = y > def __init__(self, x=0, y=0, z=0): > self.__init__(self, x, y) >

Re: how to use more than 1 __init__ constructor in a class ?

2005-06-23 Thread Rocco Moretti
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:34:21 -0500, Rocco Moretti wrote: > > >>You could also turn __init__ into a dispatch fuction: >> >>#-- >>class myPointClass: >> def __init__(self, *args): >> if len(args) <= 2: >

Re: OT: Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-23 Thread Rocco Moretti
Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > >> Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> >>> Casey Hawthorne wrote: >>> Do your planes fly over the earth's surface or through the ground? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Why do you presume this has anything to do with airplanes? >>> >> >> That was supposed to be a f

Re: Thanks for PIL (and other stuff)

2005-06-24 Thread Rocco Moretti
jean-marc wrote: > PS If I knew that Python had a anniversary date, I'd also write to > thanks our BDFL (and authors)! But no such luck, so I'm restaining > myself! > ;-)) From the FAQ: > Here's a very brief summary of what started it all, written by Guido van > Rossum: > > > > During the 19

Re: a dictionary from a list

2005-06-24 Thread Rocco Moretti
David Bear wrote: > I know there must be a better way to phrase this so google understands, but > I don't know how.. So I'll ask people. > > Assume I have a list object called 'alist'. > > Is there an easy way to create a dictionary object with the members of > 'alist' being the keys in the dicti

Re: Which kid's beginners programming - Python or Forth?

2005-06-28 Thread Rocco Moretti
BORT wrote: > I am toying with the idea of teaching my ten year old a little about > programming. I started my search with something like "best FREE > programming language for kids." After MUCH clicking and high-level > scanning, I am looking at Python and Forth. Both have advocates that > say

Re: Which kid's beginners programming - Python or Forth?

2005-06-28 Thread Rocco Moretti
Rocco Moretti wrote: > It's been quite some time since I've looked at Forth, and the reference > material that I used then was probably outdated anyway. Sorry, thought of one more thing Python has going for it vs. Forth - reference material. Check the catalog of your local li

Re: Which kid's beginners programming - Python or Forth?

2005-06-29 Thread Rocco Moretti
BORT wrote: > Gentle folk of comp.lang.python, I heartily thank you all for your > input. I think I'm taking the boys through the door marked "Logo." We > may be back this way, though. We will likely need MORE in the nebulous > future. I am impressed with the outpouring of support here! Other

Re: Modules for inclusion in standard library?

2005-06-29 Thread Rocco Moretti
Paul Rubin wrote: > Gregory Piñero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>I'd like to see some database API's to the most common databases >>included. > > Yes, certainly, this is a serious deficiency with Python. Except that (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is somewhat of a policy for not inclu

Re: Add methods to string objects.

2005-06-30 Thread Rocco Moretti
Roy Smith wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>You can even get closer, but it is NOT recommended >> >>class foostr(str): >> def plural (self): >>if self.value[-1] in "sz": >>return self.value + "es" >>els

Re: Question about Python

2005-07-01 Thread Rocco Moretti
Jan Danielsson wrote: >However, when I look at the various Python modules/libraries, I see > that there are several versions of them, for different versions of > python. I've seen everything from "for python 1.5" up to "for python > 2.4" with all versions in between. This scares me a little bi

Re: Modules for inclusion in standard library?

2005-07-01 Thread Rocco Moretti
Paul Rubin wrote: > Rocco Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>Except that (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is somewhat of a >>policy for not including interface code for third party programs which >>are not part of the operating system. (I.e. the modu

Re: Assigning to None

2005-07-01 Thread Rocco Moretti
Mike Meyer wrote: > Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Mike Meyer wrote: >> >>>Yes. I once grabbed an old program that did assignments to None. But >>>that's always been a bad idea. >> >>What was the use case!? > > > Unpacking a tuple. Something like this: > > (foo, bar,

Re: Favorite non-python language trick?

2005-07-01 Thread Rocco Moretti
Joseph Garvin wrote: > I'm curious -- what is everyone's favorite trick from a non-python > language? And -- why isn't it in Python? I'm not aware of a language that allows it, but recently I've found myself wanting the ability to transparently replace objects. For example, if you have a trans

Re: Assigning to None

2005-07-03 Thread Rocco Moretti
François Pinard wrote: > [Rocco Moretti] > > >>foo, bar, _ = gen_tuple(stuff) > > >>as '_' is already special cased (last result in interactive mode), and >>is already used for "don't care" sematics in Prolog. > > > `_&#x

Re: Favorite non-python language trick?

2005-07-03 Thread Rocco Moretti
Jp Calderone wrote: > On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:02:10 -0500, Rocco Moretti > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> I'm not aware of a language that allows it, but recently I've found >> myself wanting the ability to transparently replace objects. >

Re: Will Guido's "Python Regrets" ever get implemented/fixed?

2005-07-04 Thread Rocco Moretti
John Roth wrote: > "Peter Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> George Sakkis schrieb: >> >>> Given that the latest 2.x python will be 2.9 >> >> >> Why not 2.13 or 2.4711? Version strings are sequences of arbitrary >> integers separated by dots and not decimal n

Re: Lisp development with macros faster than Python development?..

2005-07-06 Thread Rocco Moretti
Raymond Hettinger wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>The problem is that questions like 'What lang is fastest to develop >>in?' >>are hard to answer definitively. > > > FWIW, Google's answer to that question is C++, Java, and Python. For > any given problem, any of the three are acceptable.

Re: HELP!

2005-07-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
Ert Ert wrote: > Please help me i down loaded python nd itplays on MS-DOS mode and not on > normal please help Python itself is a command line program. "MS-DOS mode" *is* it's normal mode. As other's have mentioned, there are graphical front ends to Python which you may be more comforatble wit

Re: Python Module Exposure

2005-07-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
Robert Kern wrote: > Jacob Page wrote: > >> Does this newsgroup find attachments acceptable? > > No. Please put files somewhere on the web and post a URL. This would be > a good forum to informally announce and discuss your module. To add to what Robert said, keep in mind this newsgroup is als

Re: f*cking re module

2005-07-08 Thread Rocco Moretti
François Pinard wrote: > I once worked with a PL/I compiler (on a big IBM mainframe), which was > trying to be helpful by spitting pages of: > > Error SUCH AND SUCH, assuming that THIS AND THIS was meant. > > and continuing compilation nevertheless. It was a common joke to say > that PL/I w

Re: How does this code works:

2005-07-11 Thread Rocco Moretti
vch wrote: > Here's an example from some book: > > def foo(n): > s = [n] > def bar(i): > s[0] += i > return s[0] > return bar > > what I don't understand is how this example works, taking into account > the LGB rule. I thought that s is not accessible from bar, but

Re: Why does reply to messages on this list put the sender in the To

2005-07-12 Thread Rocco Moretti
Peter Decker wrote: > On 7/12/05, Dark Cowherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Most lists when i hit reply it puts the list address back in the To >>address and some lists allow you to configure this. >> >>But in this list reply sends the mail back as a private mail and there >>seems to be no op

Re: Porting from Python 2.3 to 2.4

2005-07-14 Thread Rocco Moretti
Joseph Garvin wrote: > Anand wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Are there any tools that would help in porting code from >> Pyton 2.3 to 2.4 ? I have gone through the whatsnew documents >> and created a document comparing Python 2.4 to 2.3. But so far >> has not been able to find any tool that will signal cod

Re: all possible combinations

2005-07-14 Thread Rocco Moretti
rbt wrote: > Say I have a list that has 3 letters in it: > > ['a', 'b', 'c'] > > I want to print all the possible 4 digit combinations of those 3 > letters: When I have occasion to do an iteration of iterations, I either use recursion (already posted) or use an accumulator type loop: items = [

Re: python certification

2005-07-18 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i want to get a small certificate or diploma in python. > it should be online cuz i live in pakistan and wont have teast centers > near me. > it should be low cost as i am not rich. > and hopefully it would be something like a a begginer certification cuz > i am new to py

Re: goto

2005-07-19 Thread Rocco Moretti
Leif K-Brooks wrote: > rbt wrote: > >>IMO, most of the people who deride goto do so because they heard or read >>where someone else did. > > > 1 GOTO 17 > 2 mean,GOTO 5 > 3 couldGOTO 6 > 4 with GOTO 7 > 5 what GOTO 3 > 6 possibly GOTO 24 > 7 you!

Re: Documentation bug: Python console behaviour changed

2005-07-19 Thread Rocco Moretti
Tim Golden wrote: > Usually means you have a readline package installed: Should the readline package be twiddled to change the "quit" string in builtins to document the correct behavior? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: goto

2005-07-21 Thread Rocco Moretti
> My "favorite" infinte loop with while is: > >i = 0 >while i < 20: > do_process(i) > > Note the prominent *lack* of any change to i here? > > Oh, for: > > from i = 0 > invariant 0 <= i <= 20 > variant 21 - i > until i > 19 > loop > do_process(i) >

Re: SciPy and NetCDF

2005-07-26 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am going to be doing a lot of work with large data sets stored in > various netCDF files, and after checking out the alternatives, I would > really like to go with SciPy. The problem is that SciPy offers no > native netCDF support. You may be having an issue because t

Re: SciPy and NetCDF

2005-07-27 Thread Rocco Moretti
Scott Kilpatrick wrote: > So wherever pycdf does a: > > from Numeric import * > > what is the equivalent for SciPy? i.e. where is the full Numeric module > in SciPy? Python packages are in a pretty flat hierarchy. There really isn't a "SciPy Numeric" and a "pycdf Numeric" - Numeric, as an indep

Re: On fighting fire with fire...

2005-07-28 Thread Rocco Moretti
projecktzero wrote: > but..but...It's so much more fun to unleash your anger and fire back > with all guns blazing fanning the flame war that most discussion groups > degenerate into after a couple of responses. =) > > Actually, I had some self restraint yesterday. I wanted to write a > ripping re

Re: On fighting fire with fire...

2005-07-28 Thread Rocco Moretti
Asad Habib wrote: > I agree with Mustafa. After all, we are a bunch of professionals and not > vagabonds hired to take pot shots at one another. Except that we're not all professionals. There are a large number of hobbyists who use Python and this list. At any rate, my suggestion was not to fors

Re: On fighting fire with fire...

2005-07-29 Thread Rocco Moretti
Asad Habib wrote: > Well, even if you are a hobbyist, that does not excuse you from being > civil. After all, we are all humans beings that deserve to be treated with > respect. Professional, hobbyist, vagabond, ogre, instigator, troll ... > THERE IS NO EXCUSE ... please treat others with respect.

Re: Comparison of functions

2005-07-31 Thread Rocco Moretti
Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > As far as I recall from Math Analysis, which I studied two months ago, > you can't sort complex numbers. It makes no sense. The reason being > (reading from my book), it's not possible to define an order that > preserves the properties of arithmetical operations o

Re: Passing arguments to function - (The fundamentals are confusing me)

2005-08-09 Thread Rocco Moretti
Christopher Subich wrote: > Gregory Piñero wrote: > >> Hey guys, would someone mind giving me a quick rundown of how >> references work in Python when passing arguments into functions? The >> code below should highlight my specific confusion: This URL is always tossed out: http://starship.pytho

Re: Passing arguments to function - (The fundamentals are confusing me)

2005-08-09 Thread Rocco Moretti
Gregory Piñero wrote: > Ahh, so it's a mutable thing. That makes sense that I can't change a > mutable object and thus can't affect it outside of the function. If you meant "immutable" for the second mutable, you're right. > Does > that mean Python functions aren't always byref, but are someti

Re: Passing arguments to function - (The fundamentals are confusing me)

2005-08-09 Thread Rocco Moretti
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 10:39:29 -0500, Rocco Moretti > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: > > >>Change it to "the object referenced by y is assigned to the name of x", >>and you're closer to th

Re: Passing arguments to function - (The fundamentals are confusing me)

2005-08-09 Thread Rocco Moretti
Christopher Subich wrote: > Rocco Moretti wrote: > >> Variables in Python are names. They aren't the cubbyholes into which >> you put values, they are sticky notes on the front of the cubby hole. > > > +1 MOTW (Metaphor of the Week) Thanks, but please note it&

Library vs Framework (was Dr. Dobb's Python-URL!)

2005-08-15 Thread Rocco Moretti
Cameron Laird wrote: > Andy Smith rails against "frameworks": > http://an9.org/devdev/why_frameworks_suck?sxip-homesite=&checked=1 > Slapdash Summary: Libraries good, frameworks bad - they are a straightjackets and limit sharing. Which lead me to the question - what's the dif

Re: Library vs Framework (was Dr. Dobb's Python-URL!)

2005-08-15 Thread Rocco Moretti
Simon Brunning wrote: > On 8/15/05, Rocco Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Which lead me to the question - what's the difference between a library >>and a framework? > > > If you call its code, it's a library. If it calls yours, it's a fra

Re: Library vs Framework (was Dr. Dobb's Python-URL!)

2005-08-16 Thread Rocco Moretti
Simon Brunning wrote: > On 8/15/05, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On Monday 15 August 2005 09:54 am, Simon Brunning wrote: >> >>>If you call its code, it's a library. If it calls yours, it's a framework. >> >>Such concision deserves applause. ;-) > > > Thank you. ;-) > > As other

Re: Module Name Conflicts

2005-08-19 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have a java program in a package called 'cmd'. This of course > conflicts with the builtin python package of the same name. The thing > is, I need to be able to import from both of these packages in the same > script. I can import either one first, but any future attemp

Re: OpenSource documentation problems

2005-09-01 Thread Rocco Moretti
Steve Holden wrote: > Every page of the docs links to "About this document", which contains > the following: """If you are able to provide suggested text, either to > replace existing incorrect or unclear material, or additional text to > supplement what's already available, we'd appreciate the

Re: Well, Python is hard to learn...

2005-09-01 Thread Rocco Moretti
wen wrote: > due to the work reason, i have to learn python since last month. i have > spent 1 week on learning python tutorial and felt good. but i still don't > understand most part of sourcecode of PYMOL(http://pymol.sourceforge.net/) > as before. Well, last time I checked, a good chunk of PyMo

Re: 'isa' keyword

2005-09-02 Thread Rocco Moretti
Terry Hancock wrote: > On Thursday 01 September 2005 07:28 am, Fuzzyman wrote: > >>What's the difference between this and ``isinstance`` ? > > I must confess that an "isa" operator sounds like it would > have been slightly nicer syntax than the isinstance() built-in > function. But not enough nic

Re: 'isa' keyword

2005-09-05 Thread Rocco Moretti
Colin J. Williams wrote: > Rocco Moretti wrote: > >> Terry Hancock wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 01 September 2005 07:28 am, Fuzzyman wrote: >>> >>>> What's the difference between this and ``isinstance`` ? >>> >>> I must confess t

Re: Replacement for lambda - 'def' as an expression?

2005-09-06 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:19:21 +0200 > Torsten Bronger wrote: > > >>"talin at acm dot org" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>Anyway, here's an example, then, of how 'def' could be used: >>> >>>add = def( a, b ): >>> return a + b >> >>I'm really not an expert in function

Re: Removing duplicates from a list

2005-09-14 Thread Rocco Moretti
Rubinho wrote: > I can't imagine one being much faster than the other except in the case > of a huge list and mine's going to typically have less than 1000 > elements. To add to what others said, I'd imagine that the technique that's going to be fastest is going to depend not only on the lengt

Re: Software bugs aren't inevitable

2005-09-14 Thread Rocco Moretti
Terry Reedy wrote: > But that, I admit, would be an invalid conclusion. And that, I claim, is > also invalid when 'iteration' and 'recursion' are reversed, no matter how > often repeated in texts and articles. The difference is between the > algorithms, not the differing syntactic expressions

Re: How to tell if an exception has been caught ( from inside the exception )?

2005-09-22 Thread Rocco Moretti
Paul Dale wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm writing an exception that will open a trouble ticket for certain > events. Things like network failure. I thought I would like to have it > only open a ticket if the exception is not caught. Is there a way to do > this inside the Exception? As far as I

Re: Indexed variables

2005-09-22 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So how do I define the function such as to discrimate wheter I call it by > f(a1) or f(a2) ? I don't want to sound rude, but I think you'll be better served by telling us why you would want to do such a thing - ten to one someone can suggest a better way to acomplish

Re: Why doesn't join() call str() on its arguments?

2005-02-19 Thread Rocco Moretti
Jeff Shannon wrote: news.sydney.pipenetworks.com wrote: Fredrik Lundh wrote: a certain "princess bride" quote would fit here, I think. I'm not really familiar with it, can you enlighten please. (Taking a guess at which quote /F had in mind...) Vezzini: "Inconceivable!" Inigo:"You keep using th

Re: Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Dec 2)

2004-12-02 Thread Rocco Moretti
For some reason I can't seem to make use of the google links. When I use the above eg http://groups.google.com/groups?frame=right&th=e562a771d1c827c9 I get a not found google page with url http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?frame=right&th=e562a771d1c827c9 really wanted to spell file in a sickl

Re: How did you learn Python?

2004-12-03 Thread Rocco Moretti
Shawn Milo wrote: > How did you learn Python? > I was just wondering what the best books were for learning Python. If you're open to options besides ink-on-tree, this is how I did it: I read the official tutorial, trying stuff out in the interactive interpreter when I didn't get something/had ques

Re: Optional Static Typing

2004-12-23 Thread Rocco Moretti
John Roth wrote: One of the comments on Artima asks a rather profound question: static typing is an answer. What's the question? (That's a paraphrase.) The answer that everyone seems to give is that it prevents errors and clarifies the program. It might just be me, but I thought it was to simpl

Re: Optional Static Typing

2004-12-23 Thread Rocco Moretti
John Roth wrote: "Rocco Moretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > Looking at C, it's doubtful error prevention and program clarification was a serious objective in the static typing system. It's more reasonable to conclude that C is statically typed because it allows

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