* Nobody:
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:31:52 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
The size-8 tabs look really bad in an editor configured with tab size 4,
as is common in Windows. I'm concluding that the CPython programmers
configure their Visual Studio's to *nix convention.
8-column tabs aren
* T:
On Feb 7, 4:43 pm, Sean DiZazzo wrote:
On Feb 7, 11:02 am, T wrote:
I have a script, which runs as a Windows service under the LocalSystem
account, that I wish to have execute some commands. Specifically, the
program will call plink.exe to create a reverse SSH tunnel. Right now
I'm us
* Chris Rebert:
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 5:05 PM, T wrote:
Ok, just looking for a sanity check here, or maybe something I'm
missing. I have a class Test, for example:
class Test:
def __init__(self, param1, param2, param3):
self.param1 = param1
self.param2 = param2
self.p
* MRAB:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Chris Rebert:
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 5:05 PM, T wrote:
Ok, just looking for a sanity check here, or maybe something I'm
missing. I have a class Test, for example:
class Test:
def __init__(self, param1, param2, param3):
self.param1 = p
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* MRAB:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Chris Rebert:
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 5:05 PM, T wrote:
Ok, just looking for a sanity check here, or maybe something I'm
missing. I have a class Test, for example:
class Test:
def __init__(self, param1, p
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:51:05 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
Python passes pointers by value, just as e.g. Java does.
How do I get a pointer in pure Python code (no ctypes)? I tried both
Pascal and C syntax (^x and *x), but both give syntax errors.
Well, I don'
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:21:11 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
A pointer tells you where something is; a reference doesn't.
Sorry, I don't know of any relevant terminology where that is the case.
Taken from Wikipedia:
"A pointer is a simple, less abstr
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steve Holden:
[...]
Alf:
This topic was discussed at great, nay interminable, length about a year
ago. I'd appreciate it if you would search the archives and read what
was said then rather than hashing the whole topic over again to nobody&#
* Diez B. Roggisch:
Am 08.02.10 02:51, schrieb Alf P. Steinbach:
* Chris Rebert:
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 5:05 PM, T wrote:
Ok, just looking for a sanity check here, or maybe something I'm
missing. I have a class Test, for example:
class Test:
def __init__(self, param1, param2, p
* alex23:
"Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
Hm. While most everything I've seen at effbot.org has been clear and to the
point, that particular article reads like a ton of obfuscation.
Must. Resist. Ad hominem.
Python passes pointers by value, just as e.g. Java does.
There, it neede
* Stephen Hansen -> Alf P. Steinbach:
[snip]
To say, "pass by value" implies things to people. It describes a sort of
world where I'm a function about to do some work, and on my desk I have
a series of boxes with names on it. It describes an environment where
someone co
* Terry Reedy:
On 2/8/2010 2:10 PM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
I apologize for assuming that "pointer" is a known word to [c.l.p.]
denizens.
It is irrelevant.
Python calls Python functions by associating argument objects (or
objects derived therefrom) with paramenter names, very
* Stephen Hansen:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Alf P. Steinbach <mailto:al...@start.no>> wrote:
* Stephen Hansen -> Alf P. Steinbach:
[snip]
To say, "pass by value" implies things to people. It describes a
sort of world where I'm
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:01:16 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Stephen Hansen -> Alf P. Steinbach:
[snip]
To say, "pass by value" implies things to people. It describes a sort
of world where I'm a function about to do some work, and on my desk I
have
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:19:56 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
You don't have anything /but/ pointers in Python.
x = 5
The above assigns to x a pointer to an object whose value is 5:
x --> 5
y = "hello"
Ditto result:
y -->
* Duncan Booth:
"Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
A copyable reference is a pointer. That is, a "pointer", in e.g. the
Java sense,
and in the general language independent sense, means a copyable
reference -- as illustrated e.g. in the Stanford computer science
101 course
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Stephen Hansen:
[...]
I've heard that before, and have no idea why, nor any real interest in
solving it: I don't want to read cpl via Usenet, and prefer to read it
as a mailing list. Somewhere between Gmail->python.org->python.org
&l
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Stephen Hansen:
[...]
I've heard that before, and have no idea why, nor any real interest in
solving it: I don't want to read cpl via Usenet, and prefer to read it
as a mailing list. Somewhere bet
* David Robinow:
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Simon Brunning wrote:
On 9 February 2010 16:29, Robert Kern wrote:
On 2010-02-09 09:37 AM, Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
If the code base stabilizes in a production version after losing the
alphas and betas they would be a great addition to the std
I know 3 Python Easter Eggs,
from __future__ import braces
import this
help( "antigravity" )
Are there more?
Cheers,
- Alf
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:04:08 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
You thought you cold do a bit of ad hominem attack.
That phrase you keep using, "ad hominem"... it doesn't mean what you seem
to think it means.
An ad hominem attack is not when somebody
* Ben Finney:
Steven D'Aprano writes:
An ad hominem attack is not when somebody makes a criticism of you
personally. It is when somebody says something along the lines of
"Don't pay any attention to Alf, he doesn't know what he's talking
about, he's a ".
In other words, a criticism of the pe
* Tim Chase:
Larry Hudson wrote:
But a minor rearrangement is simpler, and IMHO clearer:
if 'mystring' not in s:
print 'not found'
else:
print 'foundit'
print 'processing'
I've always vacillated on whether that would better be written as Larry
does, or as
if 'mystring' in
* Ben Finney:
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:38:50 +0100
"Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
However, although in this particular case the Ad Hominems
constituted logical fallacies, not all Ad Hominems are logical
fallacies.
Yes they are. Using the reput
* Stephen Hansen:
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Alf P. Steinbach <mailto:al...@start.no>> wrote:
[abundant snips which do not accurately represent who said what where
due to my own laziness]
Not sure, but perhaps it's possible to mail directly
On 02/10/10 03:36, Tim Chase wrote:
Larry Hudson wrote:
But a minor rearrangement is simpler, and IMHO clearer:
if 'mystring' not in s:
print 'not found'
else:
print 'foundit'
print 'processing'
I've always vacillated on whether that would better be written as Larry
does, or as
if 'mystring'
* Olof Bjarnason:
2010/2/10 Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de>:
pyt...@bdurham.com wrote:
Does Python provide a way to format a string according to a
'picture' format?
For example, if I have a string '123456789' and want it formatted
like '(123)-45-(678)[9]', is there a module or function that wi
On 02/10/10 10:53, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
Quin wrote:
Well, now you know!
All I know is that you are using a python implementation that does not
support python 3. No wonder why your py3 code fails.
You knew you known, you know :-)
--
mph
--
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* Duncan Booth:
"Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
In CPython objects once created remain in the same memory location
(and their id is their address). Compare that to IronPython where the
objects themselves can move around in memory so they have no fixed
address. Try comparing the
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:13:22 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
You've
dismissed at least one of my arguments with a simple hand-waving of,
"That's invalid, cuz."
That is not a quote of me. It is a lie.
Alf, although your English in this forum has
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
[snip]
Since in the quoting above no reference to definition of "pointer"
remains: "pointer" refers to a copyable reference value as seen from the
Python level, in the same way as "pointer" is used by e.g. the Java
languag
* Ethan Furman:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Believe me Alf, the fact that people are taking the time to try to
argue with you instead of just kill-filing you is a compliment.
It's a compliment I am not paying, although I am grateful to those who
are attempting to teach him. At the rate it's goi
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:02:14 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
"pointer" refers to a copyable reference value as seen from the Python
level, in the same way as "pointer" is used by e.g. the Java language
spec.
Python doesn't have "copya
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:02:27 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
For a less likely more technical interpretation, as far as I know in
Python there's just one case of a pointer that does not point to
anything, namely as exemplified by
def foo():
print( x )
* David:
I have a module toolkit.py with some functions I use often. One of
these functions displays a usage message (__doc__).
def usage(messages=[], exit=-1):
"""Print the doc string as wells as any useful messages."""
print(__doc__)
for message in messages:
print("\033[91
* Steve Holden:
So now the whole thing boils down to "Alf against the world"? The
reminds me of the story about the woman who went to see her son qualify
from his basic army training. When asked what she thought of the parade
she said it was very nice, but that "everyone but our Alf was out of s
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
[snip]
Since in the quoting above no reference to definition of "pointer"
remains: "pointer" refers to a copyable reference value as seen from the
Python level, in the same way as "poi
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steve Holden:
So now the whole thing boils down to "Alf against the world"? The
reminds me of the story about the woman who went to see her son qualify
from his basic army training. When asked what she thought of the parade
she said it was
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:56:36 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:02:14 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
"pointer" refers to a copyable reference value as seen from the Python
level, in the same way as "pointer&
* alex23:
"Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
Telling someone to "learn to read" is a Steve Holden'sk way to imply that the
person is an ignoramus who hasn't bothered to learn to read.
Ad hominem.
So, you
are misrepresenting -- again -- and in a quite revealing w
* I V:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:37:35 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steven D'Aprano:
s = [1]
t = s # Binds the name t to the object bound to the name s.
t[0] = 2 # Changes the object bound to the name t print(s) #
Checks the object via the original name.
Notice that
On 02/07/10 19:02, T wrote:
I have a script, which runs as a Windows service under the LocalSystem
account, that I wish to have execute some commands. Specifically, the
program will call plink.exe to create a reverse SSH tunnel. Right now
I'm using subprocess.Popen to do so. When I run it inte
On 02/05/10 19:53, Wanderer wrote:
Which is the more accepted way to compose method names nounVerb or
verbNoun?
For example voltageGet or getVoltage? getVoltage sounds more normal,
but voltageGet is more like voltage.Get. I seem to mix them and I
should probably pick one way and stick with it.
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steven D'Aprano:
[...]
accusing them of lying for having an opinion that differs from yours,
That is untrue.
Well, that says it all really.
You seem to insinuate that I'm saying that Steven is lying, and/or that Steven
is lying.
Fr
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steve Holden:
[...]
In this particular part of the thread I am attempting, unsuccessfully,
to convince you that a change in *your* behavior would lead to less
hostility directed towards the way you present your ideas.
You apparently feel it is quite
* Jonathan Gardner:
On Feb 10, 3:23 pm, Peng Yu wrote:
I'm wondering there is already a function in python library that can
merge intervals. For example, if I have the following intervals ('['
and ']' means closed interval as
inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_(mathematics)#Excluding_the_
* Terry Reedy:
On 2/11/2010 1:37 AM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
Consider just the
assert( t is not s )
t = s
Does this change anything at all in the computer's memory?
By 'computer', do you mean 'anything that computes' (including humans)
or specifically 'e
* Jeremy:
I have been using Python for several years now and have never run into
memory errors…
until now.
My Python program now consumes over 2 GB of memory and then I get a
MemoryError. I know I am reading lots of files into memory, but not
2GB worth. I thought I didn't have to worry about
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:26:34 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
I presume you agree that the name 'Alf P. Steinbach' refers to you. Do
you then consider it to be a 'reference' to you?
Yes, and that's irrelevant, because you can't chang
* Martin P. Hellwig:
Well at least you are well written and more subtle than Xah Lee.
Though I find him also quite amusing, I do like a good flame-war every
now and again, and in that perspective I solute you.
The technical discussion is now at point where one poster maintains that
Well at least you are well written and more subtle than Xah Lee.
Though I find him also quite amusing, I do like a good flame-war every
now and again, and in that perspective I solute you.
--
mph
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ation aspects, persisting in the face
of corrections, have just, IMHO, been consistent attempts at misrepresentation.
On Feb 11, 4:49 am, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
*The* standard general language independent definition?
[ of pointer ]
Yes.
As defined where?
For example, as I us
* Christian Heimes:
mk wrote:
Hmm how about "call by label-value"?
Or "call by guido"? How do you like "call like a dutch"? :]
Just a note: it might be more clear to talk about "pass by XXX" than "call by
XXX".
Unless you're talking about something else than argument passing.
The standard
* Antoine Pitrou:
Le Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:14:57 +, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
What Python does is called "pass by sharing", or sometimes "pass by
object reference". It is exactly the same as what (e.g.) Ruby and Java
do, except that confusingly the Ruby people call it "pass by reference"
and t
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
You may note that that Wikipedia article refers to an article that I
wrote about pointers in C++.
It's a broken link, referring to a non-existent server.
Yes, sorry.
It's been that way a long time, and for the same reason my C++ tutorial,
* Antoine Pitrou:
Le Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:06 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach a écrit :
Steven talks about the standard meaning of "pass by reference".
See my answer to Steve's message. You can't postulate a "standard
meaning" of "pass by reference" ind
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:24 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
Yes, I do count this as a personal attack and flaming.
The litmus test for that is that it says something very negative about
the person you're debating with.
As negative as accusing somebody of int
* Mark Lawrence:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
An extremely long thread dedicated to the notion that there are no
references in Python (which is blatantly false), coupled with personal
attacks on the one person arguing that there are. I could easily think
that you were having me on. Of course
* Jordan Apgar:
I'm trying to run two servers in the same program at once. Here are
the two:
class TftpServJ(Thread):
def __init__(self, ip, root, port=69, debug = False ):
Thread.__init__(self)
setup stuff here
def run(self):
try:
self.server.listen(
* J Wolfe:
I would really appreciate some help with this. I'm fairly new to
using classes...What am I doing wrong? All I get is a blank window. I
can't seem to figure out how to initialize this Progress Bar.
Thanks,
Jonathan
##file Meter.py
fro
* hjebbers:
I enlarged the windows page file from 750Kb to 1.5Gb .
The crash still happens.
btw, the crash does not happen at a peak memory usage.
According to windows task manager, at the moment of crash mem usage of
my program is 669kb, peak memory usage is 1.136kb
henk-jan
Probably you mean
* Ernest Adrogué:
Hello everybody,
I'm designing a container class that supports slicing.
The problem is that I don't really know how to do it.
class MyClass(object):
def __init__(self, input_data):
self._data = transform_input(input_data)
def __getitem__(self, k
* Aahz:
In article ,
Steve Holden wrote:
Whether in CPython, Jython or IronPython the value returned by calling
id(x) (whether x is a literal, a simple name or a more complex
expression) is absolutely no use as an accessor: it does not give you
access to the referenced value.
If you disagree,
* Michael Sparks:
[Due to the appearance of reasoned discussion (it's not practical to read it
all!), I felt it necessary to respond. It turned out to be a long sequence of
trivial fallacies, peppered with various allegations and insinuations.]
[snip extremely much]
Now let's move to the
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Michael Sparks:
[Due to the appearance of reasoned discussion (it's not practical to read it
all!)
[...]
Therefore to say "in reality the implementation will be passing a
reference or pointer" is invalid. There is after a
* vsoler:
Hi,
My python script needs to work with a .txt file in a directory. I
would like to give the user the possibility to choose the file he
needs to work on in as much the same way as I open a .xls file in
Excel, that is, I want to make appear the "Windows'" window and let
the user choose.
* Benjamin Kaplan:
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
At this point consider whether it's possible to implement Pascal in Haskell.
If it is possible, then you have a problem wrt. drawing conclusions about
pointers in Pascal, uh oh, they apparently can't exist.
* Steve Howell:
This thread is interesting on many levels. What is the core question
that is being examined here?
I think that regarding the technical it is whether a Python name refers to an
object or not. I maintain that it does, and that the reference can be copied,
and that the semantics
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Michael Sparks:
[Due to the appearance of reasoned discussion (it's not practical to
read it all!)
[...]
Therefore to say "in reality the implementation will be passing a
reference or pointer&q
* Bruno Desthuilliers:
Alf P. Steinbach a écrit :
(snip)
This group has an extraordinary high level of flaming and personal
attacks
Oh my...
(snip remaining non-sense)
Mr Steinbach, I bet you'll count this as another "flaming" and "personal
attack", but nonetheless
* Aahz:
In article ,
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
My original statement, with reference to the Java language spec,
didn't say much more about the language than that it has assignable
references.
Assuming this is what you're referring to:
Python passes pointers by value, just as
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:33:50 -0800, Steve Howell wrote:
You seem to be missing the point that "curly braces" is a concrete
term that very specifically applies to spelling.
And you seem to be missing the point that "pointer" is also a concrete
term that very specifically ap
* Ethan Furman:
Steve Howell wrote:
Going back to pointers vs. references, I think the key distinction
being made is that pointers allow specific memory manipulation,
although I think even there you're really just dealing with
abstractions. The address 0x78F394D2 is a little bit closer to the
* chiranjeevi muttoju:
Hi,
when i'm installing the pytc(python wrapper for tokyo cabinet.) i'm
getting the fallowing error.. i'm getting this error for python2.6
only.. for python 2.4 its working fine..
-
running install
running build
running build_ext
* katrine:
Hope you guys don't mind a question about building matplotlib from a
biologist who wants to learn how to use python.
I am trying to install matplotlib on my mac with OS X 10.4.11, using
python 2.6.4 and Xcode 2.2.1. I have had a few fights with freetype
and Tkinter, and I think I've
* R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar:
width = 5
height = 30
colors = ['#abcdef]', '#456789']
filename = "/tmp/image.png"
# I want to get the equivalent of variable interpolation in Perl
# so that the command
#
# convert -size 5x30 gradient:#abcdef-#456789 /tmp/image.png
#
# is derived from the variables
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:25:23 +, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
John Posner writes: [...]
x = s[0]
[...]
assigns the name *x* to the object that *s[0]* refers to
s[0] does not refer to an object, it *is* an object (once evaluated of
course, otherwise it's just a Python e
* News123:
Hi,
What is the best way with python to get a list of all windows services.
As a start I would be glad to receive only the service names.
However it would be nicer if I could get all the properties of a service
as well.
Thanks for any info and bye
* Library:
If there is some
* alex23:
News123 wrote:
What is the best way with python to get a list of all windows services.
As a start I would be glad to receive only the service names.
However it would be nicer if I could get all the properties of a service
as well.
I highly recommend Tim Golden's fantastic WMI modu
* alex23:
On Feb 16, 1:28 pm, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
It's probably Very Good, but one Microsoft-thing one should be aware of: using
WMI functionality generally starts up a background WMI service...
"Probably"?
That means that since you say it's fant
* alex23:
"Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
it's great that you provide the kind
of help that you did, pointing out a probably very good module that it seems
gives the required functionality, and giving an URL.
Yes, because that's _actually helping people_ and not just
contrib
* Tim Golden:
On 16/02/2010 12:18, News123 wrote:
I don't use the script often, so if it would start a WMI service during
runtime and stop it afterwards it would be fine.
FWIW -- your other considerations notwithstanding -- I'm not aware
of WMI having this effect. Generally you can assume that
* Tim Golden:
On 16/02/2010 12:48, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
I just googled the filename from memory, found
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/wmiprvse.exe.html>
Don't know if I've disabled it because invoking wmic didn't produce it.
Uh, wait, since it hosts the
On 02/16/10 13:51, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
- Alf (is this off-topic for the group?)
Strictly speaking yes, but I do find it interesting and there is nothing
wrong with ignoring posts you don't like to read.
--
mph
--
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* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
[...]
I'll do some further research to see what's going on there.
Cheers,
- Alf (is this off-topic for the group?)
It's gone a lot further off than this without anyone complaining. I
think your experiences to date should convince y
* Paul Rubin:
John Nagle writes:
However, things have changed, and lists and tuple *are* effectively
mutable and hashable versions of each other...
It's the concurrency aspect of this that interests me, though.
A language with immutable objects can potentially handle concurrency
more safely
On 02/19/10 21:48, MattB wrote:
Hey all,
I've been working on a program that accesses my school's password
protected website and downloads directory names. I'm using mechanize.
Recently, the program has been unable to open the website, returning
the 'errno 61 connection refused' error. I presum
On 02/20/10 00:20, MattB wrote:
Also, based on Martin's comment, I just wanted to make you all aware
that I intend no misuse, but rather am just trying to learn, as I'm a
programming noob.
It wasn't my intention to imply that, rather the opposite, that if some
BOFH would see your action as m
* Bryan:
I am looping through a list and creating a regular dictionary. From
that dict, I create an ordered dict. I can't think of a way to build
the ordered dict while going through the original loop. Is there a
way I can avoid creating the first unordered dict just to get the
ordered dict?
, that is exactly what I need to do :)
Is this possible with python..?
--
Regards,
R. P. Janaka
--
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* W. eWatson:
So what's the bottom line? This link notion is completely at odds with
XP,
Well, Windows NT has always had *hardlinks*.
I found it a bit baffling that that functionality is documented as not
implemented for Windows in the Python standard library.
But OK, it was non-trivial to
* W. eWatson:
On 2/22/2010 8:50 PM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* W. eWatson:
So what's the bottom line? This link notion is completely at odds with
XP,
Well, Windows NT has always had *hardlinks*.
I found it a bit baffling that that functionality is documented as not
implemented for Wi
* Paul Rubin:
Steve Howell writes:
My gut instinct is that functional programming works well for lots of
medium sized problems and it is worth learning.
I think it's worth learning because it will make you a better programmer
even if you never use it for anything beyond academic exercises. I
Please can anyone help me..??
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:18 AM, R. P. Janaka wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a way to get system memory consumption and CPU consumption in a
> platform independent way, using python...?
>
> Basically my requirement is, get the memory status a
Actually I am still waiting for Java to be mainstream :-)
You could say it is popular, which it is without doubt but in my opinion
after C handed over it's pseudo de facto standard (mostly because a lot
of OS'es are written in it) nobody else has had enough momenta to reach
for that crown.
Ac
* Nomen Nescio:
Hello,
Can someone help me understand what is wrong with this example?
class T:
A = range(2)
B = range(4)
s = sum(i*j for i in A for j in B)
It produces the exception:
: global name 'j' is not defined
Which Python implementation are you using?
I can't reproduce the er
On 02/24/10 16:05, Peter Parker wrote:
Steve Holden wrote:
At 12.34 pm on November 13, 2011
At December 21, 2012 at 11:11 am (according to the Maya calendar)
On August 29, 1997, Java became mainstream. In a panic, Microsoft tried
to embrace, extend and exterminate the system, prompting Sun
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On Feb 24, 8:05 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message , Wanja Gayk wrote:
Reference counting is about the worst technique for garbage collection.
It avoids the need for garbage collection.
That's like saying that driving a VW Beetle avoids the need for an
automob
On 02/25/10 10:26, simn_stv wrote:
what i am concerned about is scalability and
efficiency, well, as far as the 'core' is concerned.
would python be able to manage giving me a solid 'core' and will i be
able to use python provide any API i would like to implement?...
Python isn't the most eff
On 02/25/10 13:58, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:26:18 -0800 (PST)
Our biggest problem was in
a network heavy element of the app and that was low level TCP/IP stuff
that rather than being Python's problem was something we used Python to
fix.
Out off interest, could you elabo
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