d - I'm more interested in
readability more than anything. I often use pyflakes in conjunction with
pep8 to keep my own code clean, readable and consistent.
Thanks for the suggestion!
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I doubt such a tool could be written either.
The vim plugin I referenced earlier works nicely enough.
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week or month at least.
Because he has better things to do ?
LIke his job at Google ?
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different groups in the first
place (python-dev, python-core-mentoring, python-ideas, etc)
so that there is a clear separation of "what's what".
Can we stop arguing about this now ?
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7;ve been over this! :) And you're a bit late...
You said it yourself "If there is code after that snippet"
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On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:17:02 +0100, wrote:
I`ll give you a clue... id(some_object) is close enough but NOT that
close.
You do realise that what id() returns is implementation-dependent, don't
you? In particular, what IronPython returns isn't an address.
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on implementation-defined behaviour like this is a good way of getting
code to blow up in your face. You'll get much more reliable results by
starting in a language that was actually intended for direct memory
access, like C, and wrappin
e/giga/Desktop/Guitar1.flv'),
stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE)
The manual gives you an example of using shlex to split a string
into tokens if you'd rather do it that way.
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ngs.
Use a a format specifier like this:
> message = "Bah."
>
> if test:
> message = "%s %s" (message, " Humbug!")
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> print(message)
Python3 (afaik) also introduced the .format(...) method on strings.
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:05 PM, harrismh777 wrote:
> Are bug reports wanted here, or just in issue tracker?
Pretty sure they're wanted in the Issue Tracker.
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tions for a month. $50 will supply enough articles
to keep a small company understandable for over a year. With your
generous help, we can beat this scourge!
Ahem.
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Hi all,
Is there a compatible way to use meteclasses
in both Python 2.x (2.6 to 2.7) and Python 3.x
(3.0 to 3.2).
Python 2.x:
class Foo(object):
__meteclass__ = MyMetaClass
Python 3.x:
class Foo(metaclass=MyMetaClass):
pass
Thanks,
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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Ranjith Kumar wrote:
> Hi all,
> Can anyone suggest me any best Natural Language Processing in
> python other than nltk.
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>
>
>
> _
ttp://code.google.com/p/lepl/source/browse/src/lepl/matchers/matcher.py#40 I
> have
>
> _Matcher = ABCMeta('_Matcher', (object, ), {})
>
> and then
>
> class Matcher(_Matcher):
> ...
Thank Andrew. I like this approach Elegance wins for me :)
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The Python In Music wiki page (http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonInMusic)
has an entire section on MIDI packages. I've never used any of them,
so I can't comment.
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;, 'horse', 'moose'],
"list2": ['62327', '49123', '79115']
}
n = 2
s2 = "list" + str(n)
a = lists[s2][lists["list1"].index('horse')]
Both of these can be made less ugly if the list you want to index into
isn't one of the lists you might want to look up, but that's just a detail.
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See: http://docs.python.org/library/pickle.html#the-pickle-protocol
Any time you want to unpickle a user class, that class must be available.
I suggest serializing to a more common format (say JSON) and re-create
your class with the data.
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> do this? subprocess?
Yes start with the subprocess module:
http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html
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:
a, b, = 1, 1
while n > 1:
a, b = b, a + b
n -= 1
return b
#cloud.start_simulator()
jobs = cloud.map(fib, range(100))
print [cloud.result(job) for job in jobs]
Enjoy! :)
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I find the API provided to be quite simple robust and potentially very
powerful - depending on your application.
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Python 2.x and Python 3.x - notably:
except Exception, e: # Python 2.x
except Exception as e: # Python 3.x
I might suggest you take a look at using lxml instead
which ships with the standard library.
[ ... ]
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On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> No. While this has been suggested, it will not become part of the stdlib in
> the foreseeable future. It's readily available as a separate package on
> PyPI, though.
Opps I meant xml.etree :/
My bad!
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> If I want to check if a list is empty, which is the more pythonic way?
[...]
> (2) if not li:
This is fine.
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problem
You will need to (naively) do this:
if "a" not in line or "b" not in line or "c" not in line:
print line
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ot; " for x in range(5)] for y in range(5)]
>>> from pprint import pprint
>>> pprint(grid)
[[' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' '],
[' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' '],
[' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' '],
[&
h the
suggestion (even if it is "right"), perhaps keep that to yourself.
if not my_list:
is a perfectly valid and fine idiom to use in Python.
If you prefer some other way, that's fine. Quite frankly
I'm sick of seeing posts that argue for the sake of arguing.
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ain, using the exact same ISO's to
install.
Do I have a Python, OS, or package issue?
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h_value.split('_', 1)
ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack
# grep -i vsr *
#
Using the informational line you suggested I see that 'vsr' showing as
the current each_value. The string 'vsr' does not exist in my data
though. Where could this be coming from?
Tha
Thank you Steven,
I will take your advice :) In this particular case though, I do not
think a lack of underscore is the issue, at least as far as I can
understand the issue. Please see my reply to Ethan.
Thanks,
James
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Mon
Hello Ian,
It does indeed to seem that way. However the script works just fine
on other machines, with the same input file.
Thanks,
James
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM, James Wright wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have b
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> James Wright wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Ethan,
>>
>> This is what I see now:
>>
>> # python render4.py
>> current each_value is: vsr
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "
Hello Ethan,
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> James Wright wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
>>>
>>> Change your print line to:
>>>
>>> print("D4[%s] = %s" % (report, each_value))
Sorry Alex, and thank you.
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Alex Willmer wrote:
> (Direct reply to me, reposted on Jame's behalf)
>
>
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Alex Willmer
> wrote:
>> On May 9, 8:10 pm, James Wright wrote:
>>&g
is a dynamic programming language) but errors should
be handled and caught by the caller - not the callee.
My 2c, others may have other points of view...
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> or not?
Recently I wrote a simple backup system for a client using
a mixture of Python and Bash using rsync, ssh and pptp.
(Not packaged well enough to show source though)
It works very well and does the job.
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al stack trace
Valid point :) However I was referring to real experience
where I've seen code that "catches all any any exception"
and simply logs it.
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onyms.
> 5. is there a way to find out if the thread is still active or dead?
See: pydoc threading.Thread or help(threading.Thread)
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te all parts you want to hide in C/C++/Cython and
> distribute them as .so/.dll
Or you could do what everyone else is doing
and provide your "application" as a service in some manner.
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his, short of closed-source?
As I mentioned before (which I don't think you quite got)...
Write your "game" for the "web".
Write is as a SaaS (Software as a Service) - even if it's free and open source.
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are not very accessible.
Funny you should mention this "now" :)
I happen to be blind myself.
Yes I agree Flash is not very accessible (never has been).
Web Standards web apps and such however are quite
accessible!
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l the debug information. By chance I'm having
to do something closely related to this at work just at the moment; it's
hard, but far from impossible.
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self.data = []
... def doit(self, count=0):
... for c in self.data:
... count += c.doit(count)
... count += 1
... print count
... return count
...
py> c = C()
py> c.data.extend([C() for i in xrange(10)])
py> c.doit()
1
2
4
8
16
32
64
128
256
512
1024
1024
WTF?
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Chris Rebert wrote:
WTF?
Assuming your question is "Why is 1024 there twice?", the answer is
The question is "Why is 1024 there at all?" It should be 10.
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Peter Otten wrote:
James Stroud wrote:
WTF?
Put the code into a file, run it -- and be enlightened ;)
tal 72% python2.7 eraseme.py
1
2
4
8tal 73% cat eraseme.py
#! /usr/bin/env python
class C:
def __init__(self):
self.data = []
def doit(self, count=0):
for c in self.data
James Stroud wrote:
Chris Rebert wrote:
WTF?
Assuming your question is "Why is 1024 there twice?", the answer is
The question is "Why is 1024 there at all?" It should be 10.
James
I mean 11, not 10--but you get the point.
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Peter Otten wrote:
James Stroud wrote:
WTF?
Put the code into a file, run it -- and be enlightened ;)
Compare the follower to the last.
tal 77% cat eraseme.py
#! /usr/bin/env python
class C:
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self.data = []
def doit(self, count=[0]):
for c in self.data
Chris Rebert wrote:
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 11:32 PM, James Stroud wrote:
Chris Rebert wrote:
WTF?
Assuming your question is "Why is 1024 there twice?", the answer is
The question is "Why is 1024 there at all?" It should be 10.
Ah. This is why it's better to be
dear mentor,
I need help with my code:
1) my program won't display file contents upon opening
2) my program is not writing to file
3) my program is not closing when user presses enter- gow do I do this with
a while loop?
please see my attempt below and help:
#1) open file and display current fil
elopment?
> (Octavian Rasnita)
> 3. Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?
> (Chris Angelico)
> 4. NEED HELP- read file contents, while loop to accept user
> input, andenter to exit (Cathy James)
> 5. Re: NEED HELP- read file contents, whil
ut (redirected to a file) they will fail... maybe even if they have
a dictionary !
Now this is an analogy fallacy, and an obvious one at that.
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Hi all!
I LOVE Python, and want to spread the word by sporting this awesome sweater
shown at: http://www.freewear.org/?page=show_item&id=FW0067 which I found by
looking on the merchandise page of python.org.
However, I live in the United States and before checking out I noticed that
on top of the
tp://opendatacommunities.org/id/geography/administration/par/E04009817>
<http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#notation> "E04009817" .
Are there any hello world examples?
Examples of what? You really must explain yourself clearly or we cannot
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ussion, where Steve wrote:
|there should be a standard solution, instead of having to
|re-invent the wheel over and over again. Even when the wheel
|is only two or three lines.
The difference is that inventing this particular wheel is almost always
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ay nothing at all.«
Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus (5.5303)
Irrelevant. We are talking about identity, not identicallity (to coin a
word). Or in plainer English, asking if two things are the same thing
is not the same as asking if two things are identical.
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Presumably they stop taking you seriously at that point?
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finite number of digits (in base 10).
Surely an infinitely large integer has an infinite number of digits?
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ext sentence' is the operative piece. I think that if the bit
about placement was moved to the end of the paragraph the whole thing would
be more readable and I wouldn't have stumbled on it.
If it had meant "the imported module's names" or indeed "the importe
tains. Therefore, for
a profound understanding of Python, everyone should learn BASIC
first, just like I did!
Tsk. You should have learned (a fake simplified) assembler first, then
you'd have an appreciation of what your processor actually did.
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my first term at university. I think they now happen later in the first
year; looking at the on-line syllabus, the first two terms of IA Maths
are now full of things that used to be taught at A-level.
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On 19/09/17 16:59, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2017-09-19, Rhodri James wrote:
On 19/09/17 16:00, Stefan Ram wrote:
D'Arcy Cain writes:
of course, I use calculators and computers but I still understand the
theory behind what I am doing.
I started out programming in BASIC. Today,
On 19/09/17 17:52, justin walters wrote:
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
Eh, my school never 'ad an electronics class, nor a computer neither. Made
programming a bit tricky; we 'ad to write programs on a form and send 'em
off to next county. None of t
y the other day. People at worked asked how old I
was. I replied:
((3**2)+math.sqrt(400))*2
Quite a few people somehow came up with 47. And these are technical people.
You obviously look very spry for your age.
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On 21/09/17 16:12, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:19 pm, Rhodri James wrote:
(That's basically my gripe against print becoming a function in Python3.
It makes a lot of sense as has already been pointed out, but it breaks
every beginners tutorial.)
Nobody made tha
t was a non-starter; it was less effort to ignore Py3 entirely.
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to the object is stored in the variable.
It really isn't.
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On 25/09/17 20:40, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rhodri James :
On 25/09/17 15:26, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
That's not what I said. I said all expressions *evaluate to* pointers.
This may well be true in particular implementations, but it is an
implementation detail so Chris' point st
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down into manageable chunks; something as simple as the odd blank
line to "paragraph" your code can make that a lot easier.
Experience also suggests a correlation between code that's hard to read
and code that's rather crap.
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In a C-like language, one could write:
while x = int( input( "Number (enter 0 to terminate)? " ))
print( f'Square = { x**2 }' )
One could. One would richly deserve the compiler warnings one got as a
result, but one could.
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sn't programming, you are as flat out wrong as if you think Small Gods
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;>> print(p)
(3,4)
>>> print(p.x)
3
>>> p.x = 7
>>> print(p)
(7,4)
>>> p.z = 2
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
AttributeError: 'Point' object has no attribute 'z'
I pretty much never bother to do thi
e in a pipeline, and at
worst makes it useless; tools that do that tend not to get used.
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;ll continue to call them callables. That way I won't burst
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al problems.
That would go a long way to explaining why I tried and failed to learn
C++ three times from Stroustrup's books.
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asn't more comprehensible when rendered as
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most extreme example.
That's only really one level more complex than declarations I use fairly
regularly (I am an embedded system programmer most of the time). On the
other hand, I never actually do declare things in that way: typedef is
your friend, and makes your C code much easier to r
orld via a serial
port was _painful_.
Amen, brother.
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On 16/10/17 16:07, Grant Edwards wrote:
Ah yes. I solved problem that by writing a wrapper around slrn so
that my .newsrc and .score files reside "in the could".
^
Now there's a typo someone should run with :-)
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e name "li" and nothing refers to our new object
[1,2,3,4,5,100,200] any more. Python will quietly delete it ("garbage
collect") in the background.
The key is that "+" on its own creates a new object, while "+=" alters
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s.
(I didn't have to tell my boss to up our rates for dealing with this
code. It took several days to do the work anyway, which was punishment
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deserve everything that will be coming to you.)
c) if (variable) { ... } in place of if (variable) { ... } ?
I assume you mean "if (variable != NULL)" here. Again, it emphasises
the type; variable will be a pointer.
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returning. The
function that's doing the calling that gets its expectation of flow
control broken has no clue, and that's my problem.
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and dirty) that ought to be rejected in any code that isn't
completely ephemeral. And in my experience, most "throw-away" code
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this is also a newsgroup). Could you repeat them in the
body of your message? If they include the exact error messages and any
traceback, that would be a great help.
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over the years that would have been markedly
less buggy and not much slower if it had been written sequentially.
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On 03/11/17 14:50, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Rhodri James wrote:
On 02/11/17 20:24, Chris Angelico wrote:
Thank you. I've had this argument with many people, smart people (like
Steven), people who haven't grokked that all concurrency has costs -
th
On 03/11/17 18:12, Israel Brewster wrote:
On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:11 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
People generally understand how to move data around, and the mistakes are
usually pretty obvious when they happen.
I think the existence of this thread indicates otherwise :-) This mistake was
far
en if my
own opinion is still strongly held.
But some people really do behave moronically on this list. I generally
killfile them before the urge to insult gets too strong, but I do see
Chris's point; leaving people with the idea that unacceptable behaviour
is acceptable is a service to
got 90% of the way there and shown his
working, which is truly excellent, but what he needed was for someone to
hint at how to search through the array, not to be handed a working
example with no explanation.
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at front, but I always felt that
having names determine types was somehow mucky.
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expected to use.
I see your point as a teacher, but after all this *is* a Python mailing
list and not a python-homework-support mailing list.
That implies you shouldn't have answered a homework assignment at all :-p
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