le not
found
Are you running your program in the parent directory of "assets"?
What happens when you go into the python interpreter (REPL) and import
pygame followed by executing that function?
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mber there at all:
>>> s[3::-1]
'kcaJ'
>>>
Or, it you want to be more explicit, you could separately grab the
substring and then reverse it:
>>> s[:4][::-1]
'kcaJ'
>>>
Does any of this help?
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shing Company; (c) 1981; Page 125
It also says that zero increments are not supported. (Whew!)
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And amusingly.
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cense" for more information.
REPL> import sys # in the original, this line will be messed up
REPL> sys.exit(0) # this one, too
username@hostname$
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[1] <https://www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/house-bill/6>, Sec 110
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e do-while, but yeah --- it's not
really worth it.
Kernighan and Ritchie agree(d) with you. Per _The C Programming
Language__:
Experience shows that do-while is much less used that while
and for.
(Second edition, Section 3.6, page 63)
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" or number == "8" or number == "9" or number == "10" :
print("I cannot sense any luck today, try again next time")
Same here.
This is, of course, why comments shouldn't just translate the code
into English. They'll get out of synch. Instead, comments should say
*why* the code is doing what it does.
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for something that it wasn't designed
for?
If XML is not the way to package data, what is the recommended
approach?
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On 21/09/2021 13.49, alister wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 13:12:10 -0500, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
On the prolog thread, somebody posted a link to:
<https://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-is-not-java.html>
One thing that it tangentially says is "XML is not the answer."
I read
On 21/09/2021 16.21, Pete Forman wrote:
"Michael F. Stemper" writes:
On 21/09/2021 13.49, alister wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 13:12:10 -0500, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
It's my own research, so I can give myself the data in any format that I
like.
as far as I can see the main
On 21/09/2021 19.30, Eli the Bearded wrote:
In comp.lang.python, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
I've heard of JSON, but never done anything with it.
You probably have used it inadvertantly on a regular basis over the
past few years. Websites live on it.
I used to use javascript when
On 22/09/2021 17.37, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 09:52:59 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper"
declaimed the following:
On 21/09/2021 19.30, Eli the Bearded wrote:
In comp.lang.python, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
How does CSV handle hierarchical data? For instance, I have
On 23/09/2021 12.51, Eli the Bearded wrote:
Am 22.09.21 um 16:52 schrieb Michael F. Stemper:
On 21/09/2021 19.30, Eli the Bearded wrote:
Yes, CSV files can model that. But it would not be my first choice of
data format. (Neither would JSON.) I'd probably use XML.
Okay. 'Go not to
On 21/09/2021 13.12, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
If XML is not the way to package data, what is the recommended
approach?
Well, there have been a lot of ideas put forth on this thread,
many more than I expected. I'd like to thank everyone who
took the time to contribute.
Most of the re
cates tabular displays that
I used through most of my career.
Or, did I miss something and others have already produced the data using
other tools, in which case you have to read it in at least once/
Well, the "tool" is vi, but this is a good description of what I'm
doing.
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On 25/09/2021 16.48, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com wrote:
On 2021-09-25 at 15:20:19 -0500,
"Michael F. Stemper" wrote:
... For instance, if
I modeled a fuel like this:
ton
21.96
18.2
and a generating unit
s (or fuels) to a
program. Multiple test cases are then just multiple files, all of which
are available to multiple programs.
You may of course want to save it, perhaps as a log, to show
what your program was working on.
That's another benefit of having the data in external files.
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n fact, doing so points me to something written by a guy I worked with
back in the 1980s:
<http://www2.econ.iastate.edu/classes/econ458/tesfatsion/EconomicDispatchIntroToOptimization.DKirschen2004.LTEdits.pdf>
Slide 3 even shows a piecewise-linear curve.
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A preposition i
On 28/09/2021 10.53, Stefan Ram wrote:
"Michael F. Stemper" writes:
Well, I could continue to hard-code the data into one of the test
programs
One can employ a gradual path from a program with hardcoded
data to an entity sharable by different programs.
When I am hurried
paper that a friend of mine is submitting to various
journals gets accepted by one of them, I'll end up with a 4 or 5 through
him. However, as the months pass, it's looking more like mine will end
up NaN.
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On 28/09/2021 18.21, Greg Ewing wrote:
On 29/09/21 4:37 am, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
I'm talking about something made
from tons of iron and copper that is oil-filled and rotates at 1800 rpm.
To avoid confusion, we should rename them "electricity comprehensions".
Hah!
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On 25/02/2022 06.49, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
Thanks for the in-between. I really like the Python comunity as,
even though it's a 'scripting' language,
To me, it's a programming language. In my usage, a "script" is
a bunch of OS commands.
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2007.
As a side note, if by scripting we mean OS commands,
then Python started as a sysadmin language.
I never knew this. Where can I read more about this origin?
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On 25/02/2022 14.30, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com wrote:
On 2022-02-25 at 13:48:32 -0600,
"Michael F. Stemper" wrote:
On 25/02/2022 12.07, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
I have been following language feature proposals from various
languages. Some decide to avoid Python&#x
used it
probably half-a-dozen times. It seems quite elegant to me.
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n binary,
and those that can't.
1, 10, many.
No problem.
Ah, a George Gamow fan.
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cal, which was probably bigger in Germany and Austria
in the 1980s than was C.
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On 23/03/2022 03.55, Kazuya Ito wrote:
Add "trun()" function to Python to truncate decimal part.
Which of these should its behavior copy?
from math import pi
int(pi)
3
pi-int(pi)
0.14159265358979312
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On 2018-03-10 09:41, Harsh Bhardwaj wrote:
On Mar 5, 2018 11:16 AM, "Harsh Bhardwaj" wrote:
Plz fix this problem for me. I tried every way to fix this.
Windows 7(32-bit)
That's a pretty bad problem. Fortunately, there is a fix:
<http://getlinux.sourceforge.net/>
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uesses)
print ('good job, you guessed correctly')
else:
print('nope, you lose')
Of course, since you never use this variable for anything, you could
also drop it altogether.
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sh script rather than a python program, you
could just do:
#!/bin/bash
rm -r Previous
mv Previous Current
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quot; ", tuple ) # following space(s)
>>> tuple = sub( ",0*", ",", tuple ) # following comma
>>> tuple = sub( "\(0*", "(", tuple ) # after opening parend
>>> tuple
'(128, 20, 8,12, 255)'
>>>
Or, if you li
rse. I haven't made
the switch myself because argparse appears (upon a cursory reading of
the documentation) to muddle the difference between options and
arguments.
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-H option:
user@host$ sudo -H pip install --upgrade pip
Requirement already up-to-date: pip in
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages (18.0)
user@host$ pip --version
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/pip", line 9, in
from pip import main
ImportError: cannot import name main
user@host$
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On 2018-08-28 13:19, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Michael F. Stemper
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to upgrade my pip on Ubuntu 16.04. I appear to have
>> buggered things up pretty well. (Details follow) Any suggestions
>> on how to u
On 2018-08-28 13:45, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 4:37 AM, Michael F. Stemper
> wrote:
>> On 2018-08-28 13:19, Larry Martell wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Michael F. Stemper
>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to u
On 2018-08-29 03:10, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 2018-08-28 20:10, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>> I'm trying to upgrade my pip on Ubuntu 16.04. I appear to have
>> buggered things up pretty well. (Details follow) Any suggestions
>> on how to undo this and get everythin
On 2018-08-29 16:02, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 08/29/2018 09:05 PM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>>> Also, PLEASE use Python 3. Still using Python 2 today is like still
>>> using Windows XP in early 2013.
>> I'm using the default version for the current relea
self ):
class ConstantImpedance( LoadModel ):
def __init__( self, xmlmodel, V ):
super().__init__( xmlmodel, V, self.name )
def Resistance( self, V ):
def Power( self, V ):
def FixedValue( self ):
def Update( self, V ):
=== end revised =
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On 2018-09-06 09:34, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> "Michael F. Stemper" :
>
>> Since the three classes all had common methods (by design), I
>> thought that maybe refactoring these three classes to inherit from
>> a parent class would be beneficial. I went ahead and
On 2018-09-06 09:35, Rhodri James wrote:
> On 06/09/18 15:04, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>> Net net is that the only thing that ended up being common was the
>> __init__ methods. Two of the classes have identical __init__
>> methods; the third has a superset of that method. The
On 2018-09-06 10:40, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> Also, get someone, preferrable a python engineer to review your code.
Sounds like an advertisement to me.
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On 2018-09-06 12:32, Stefan Ram wrote:
> "Michael F. Stemper" writes:
>> Is there really any benefit to this change? Yes, I've eliminated
>> some (a few lines per class) duplicate code. On the other hand,
>> I've added the parent class and the (probably sm
On 2018-09-06 16:00, MRAB wrote:
> On 2018-09-06 21:24, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>> On 2018-09-06 09:35, Rhodri James wrote:
>>> Is it worth creating the superclass in Python? It sounds like it's a
>>> bit marginal in your case. I'm not that seasoned in o
On 2018-09-07 14:51, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
> On 2018-09-06 16:00, MRAB wrote:
>> On 2018-09-06 21:24, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>> A word of advice: don't use a "bare" except, i.e. one that doesn't
>> specify what exception(s) it should catch.
> I
On 2018-09-07 15:39, MRAB wrote:
> On 2018-09-07 20:51, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>> On 2018-09-06 16:00, MRAB wrote:
>>> A word of advice: don't use a "bare" except, i.e. one that doesn't
>>> specify what exception(s) it should catch.
>>
>&
On 2018-09-06 16:04, Stefan Ram wrote:
> "Michael F. Stemper" writes:
>>> You have a operation »Resistance( V )«.
>> Mathematically, that's an operation, I suppose. I tend to think of it
>> as either a function or a method.
>
> I deliberately did n
s on staff. Sometimes, it
was to meet a crunch that was anticipated to be brief. Sometimes, it
was to fill an open slot while trying to find somebody to hire for
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On 2018-09-11 01:59, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Rick Johnson :
>
>> Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>>> Object-oriented philosophy
>> [...] [...] [...]
>>
>> So, to make a long story short, you may want to do some
>> googling...
>
> Long story short, Mic
zzz.c have the following vulnerability."
Those guys were (are) *sharp*.
[1] <https://www.nerc.com/pa/Stand/Pages/CIPStandards.aspx>
[2]
<https://www.energy.gov/oe/technology-development/energy-delivery-systems-cybersecurity/national-scada-test-bed>
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Outs
l
> run AFTER the first loop completes, not for each step of the loop,
> because you outdented the code.
>
> Also, you unconditionally add the word, and THEN check if it is in the list.
And the first thing that I note is that he checks to see if it is in
the list from which it came.
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by one and store
> them in a list/array so that I could work with it easily)
>
> here is the path: home/name/tutorial/prof/ks.zip/projects
Are you sure? Could it possibly be:
/home/name/tutorial/prof/ks.zip/projects
instead?
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> for a in tags:
> print(a)
>
>
> the output is :
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> But I just want the tag, not the attributes
Try this:
for a in tags:
a = re.sub( " .*>", ">", a )
print(a)
(The two statements could be combined.)
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ime
from time import strftime
timestamp = datetime.now().strftime( "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M" )
The first seems a little clunky with its accessing of multiple
attributes, but the second has an additional import. Is there
any reason to prefer one over the other?
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On 22/07/2019 15.58, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 6:34 AM Michael F. Stemper
> wrote:
>>
>> I have some code that generates a time-stamp as follows:
>>
>> from datetime import datetime
>> tt = datetime.now()
>> timestamp = &qu
On 22/07/2019 16.00, Stefan Ram wrote:
> "Michael F. Stemper" writes:
>> The first seems a little clunky with its accessing of multiple
>> attributes, but the second has an additional import. Is there
>> any reason to prefer one over the o
ty set..." T is indeed "a" set, but it's the only set that has
the same elements as T. Therefore, once you've let T be some specific
non-empty set, it is *the* set T.
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>
> This is a fairly unusual case, though. More commonly, the default
> would be None, not False, and "if bar is None:" is extremely well
> known and idiomatic.
That's certainly how I would have done it until I read your post. But
reading it immediately raised the question of why not:
def foo( bar=[] ):
if len(bar)==0:
print( "Pretty short" )
else:
print( bar )
return
Seems to work just fine.
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On 29/07/2019 12.56, Rob Gaddi wrote:
> On 7/29/19 10:44 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>> On 28/07/2019 19.04, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:48 AM Michael Torrie
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yet the recommended solution to the problem of wanting a
l2p2
spattered all over. Although this is simple enough, I find it
aesthetically unappealing.
Is there some better idiom that I should be using, or is this
really in accord with The Zen of Python?
[1] (I could have done sets, I suppose, but orientation might be
useful at some point.)
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On 20/08/2019 21.57, DL Neil wrote:
> On 21/08/19 9:11 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>> I recently wrote a couple of modules (more to come) to help me
>> use the tikz package in TeX/LaTeX. Since it's all to do with
>> drawing, I have a lot of points in R^2. Being uni
truly amazing!
In fact, I ended up writing a tiny program to cube its arguments and
report the sum. Took about 40 ms to run, no matter the size of the
arguments, which tells me that the only cost is the fixed overhead.
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ce between that and
:set ai
and
:set noai
With newer vims that's rarely necessary though since they can distinguish
between input that was pasted and input that was typed.
I thought that I was going nuts when I encountered that. Any idea how to
defeat such a so-called 'feature"?
On 18/12/2020 00.09, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 17Dec2020 14:22, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
On 17/12/2020 03.57, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
On 2020-12-17 03:06:32 -, Bischoop wrote:
With newer vims that's rarely necessary though since they can
distinguish
between input that was paste
tetime
>>> datetime.toordinal(date(2020,1,1))
737425
>>> datetime.toordinal(date(2021,1,5))
737795
>>> datetime.toordinal(date(2021,1,5)) - datetime.toordinal(date(2020,1,1))
370
>>>
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#x27;a', 'b', 'c', 'aa', 'ab', 'ac', 'aaa', 'aab', 'aac', 'aba', 'abb',
'abc', 'aca', 'acb', 'acc', 'ba', 'bb', 'bc', 'baa', 'bab', 'bac',
'bba', 'bbb', 'bbc', 'bca', 'bcb', 'bcc', 'ca', 'cb', 'cc', 'caa',
'cab', 'cac', 'cba', 'cbb', 'cbc', 'cca', 'ccb', 'ccc']
>>> words = embiggen(words)
>>> len(words)
120
>>>
It's obvious that this could be called from a for-loop with no
modification, which I believe is what the OP wanted.
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e "weekend". Starting on Sunday is weird
for us, because then the weekend is split into the first and last day of
the week (?)
A week is like a piece of string. It has two ends.
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- composition of permutations of a set
- properties of minimal paths through a C_m x C_n lattice
- generating tikz commands for geometric diagrams in TeX documents
- unstructured and uneducated exploration of Conway's Game of Life
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Bart Lateur wrote:
> As a similar example: I've been told by various women independently,
> that "there are more babies born near a full moon."
That's also a myth.
Paul
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[Peter Barret wrote:]
> It may just be me, but I tend to think of a computer language as a
> tool for directing computers to perform specific actions. Do we talk
> about the expressiveness of a spade?
yes, it is just you. :-)
Your comparison is a very poor match. How can you even begin to
compa
Hi! There goes a newbie trouble:
for i in range(0, len(subject)):
if subject[i] in preps:
psubject.append(noun_syn_parser(subject[0:i]))
subject[0:i] = []
Since the last line eliminates some elements of the list, I'm wondering
if it's somehow possible to change the val
Uh! I've not even thought in using a while... Thanks!
Lonnie Princehouse wrote:
i = 0
while i < len(subject):
if subject[i] in preps:
psubject.append(noun_syn_parser(subject[0:i]))
subject[0:i] = []
i = 0
else:
i += 1
Gabriel F. Alcober wrote:
Hi! There goes a newbie trou
Bengt Richter wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 02:48:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:27:54 +0100, "Gabriel F. Alcober" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi! There goes a newbie trouble:
for i in range(0, len(subject)):
if sub
William Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Russell E. Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a fast cross-platform plotting package for 2-D
> > plots?
> >
> > Our situation:
> > We are driving an instrument that outputs data at 20Hz. Control is via
> > an existing Tkinter appl
Howdy folks, I have a couple of questions that imo requires some
feedback by the smarts, I'd appreciate any comments you can add to this
issue, here's my situation:
I am developing an application, the application stores small text
snippets (think of something similar to evernote), and it has t
Joachim Durchholz wrote:
>
> You can have aliasing without pointers; e.g. arrays are fully sufficient.
> If i = j, then a [i] and a [j] are aliases of the same object.
"Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am having a hard time with this very broad definition of aliasing.
> Would we also
"Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In general, I feel that "records" are not the right conceptual
> level to think about.
Unfortunately, they are the right level. Actually,the right level
might even be lower, the fields within a record, but that's moving
even farther away from the direction
very nice game, i like it.
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The following script puzzles me. It creates two nested lists that
compare identically. After identical element assignments, the lists
are different. In one case, a single element is replaced. In the
other, an entire column is replaced.
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With all due respect to your well-deserved standing in the Python
community, I'm not convinced that equality shouldn't imply invariance
under identical operations.
Perhaps the most fundamental notion is mathematics is that the left and
right sides of an equation remain identical after any
oops! last sentence of 2nd paragraph in previous message should read
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Hi Tim,
In your example, a & b are references to the same object. I agree they
should compare equally. But please note that a==b is True at every
point in your example, even after the ValueError raised by b.remove(1).
That's good consistent behavior.
My original example is a little different.
Yes. You stated it quite precisely. I believe l1==l2 should always
return True and l1==l3 should always be False. (unless l3 is reassigned
as l3=l1). Your idea of a separate operator for 'all elements have
numerically equal values at the moment of comparision' is a good one.
For want of a better
Considering the number of new programmers who get bit by automatic
coercion, I wish Dennis Ritchie had made some different choices when he
designed C. But then I doubt he ever dreamed it would become so wildly
successful.
Being a curmudgeon purist I'd actually prefer it if Python raised a
TypeErr
Yes (unless I was testing the assertion that the second envelope did
not contain counterfeits of the first)
Scott David Daniels wrote:
> Would you say that envelope containing five $100 bills is equal to
> an envelope containing five $100 bills with different serial numbers?
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Truthfully, I wouldn't mind it at all. In Python, I frequently write
things like
i == int(f)
or vice versa just to avoid subtle bugs that sometimes creep in when
later modifications to code change the original assumptions.
When working in C, I always set the compiler for maximum warning
I believe that 'is' tests equality of reference, such that
>>> a = range(1,3)
>>> b = range(1,3)
>>> a is b
False
The 'is' operator tells you whether a and b refer to the same object.
What I've been discussing is whether == should test for "structural"
equality so that a and b remain equivalent u
'. I haven't used such perjoratives in
any of my posts and would appreciate the same courtesy.
Cheers,
Mike
'''
StrongEquality -- a first cut at the definition proposed by M. Ellis.
Author: Michael F. Ellis, Ellis & Grant, Inc.
'''
def indices(ite
Hey Alex, lighten up! Python is a programming language -- not your
family, religion, or civil rights.
Cheers,
Mike
Alex Martelli wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
> > (As an aside, may I point out that Python In A Nutshell states on page
> > 46 "The result of S*n or n*S is the concatena
Chris Smith wrote:
> Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > While I am quite sympathetic to this point, I have to say that
> > this horse left the barn quite some time ago.
>
> I don't think so. Perhaps it's futile to go scouring the world for uses
> of the phrase "dynamic type" and eliminating t
Chris F Clark wrote:
> A static
> type system eliminates some set of tags on values by syntactic
> analysis of annotations (types) written with or as part of the program
> and detects some of the disallowed compuatations (staticly) at compile
> time.
Adreas relied:
> Explicit a
Chris F Clark schrieb:
> In that sense, a static type system is eliminating tags, because the
> information is pre-computed and not explicitly stored as a part of the
> computation. Now, you may not view the tag as being there, but in my
> mind if there exists a way of perfoming the
Pascal Costanza wrote:
> Consider a simple expression like 'a + b': In a dynamically typed
> language, all I need to have in mind is that the program will attempt to
> add two numbers. In a statically typed language, I additionally need to
> know that there must a guarantee that a and b will always
Chris Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I thought about this in the context of reading Anton's latest post to
> me, but I'm just throwing out an idea.
I think there is some sense of convergence here. In particular, I
reason about my program using "unsound types". That is, I reason
about
Chris Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I thought about this in the context of reading Anton's latest post to
> me, but I'm just throwing out an idea.
I wrote:
> I think there is some sense of convergence here.
Apologies for following-up to my own post, but I forgot to describe
the converg
Chris Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Unfortunately, I have to again reject this idea. There is no such
> restriction on type theory. Rather, the word type is defined by type
> theorists to mean the things that they talk about.
Do you reject that there could be something more general th
Chris F Clark (I) wrote:
> I'm particularly interested if something unsound (and perhaps
> ambiguous) could be called a type system. I definitely consider such
> things type systems.
"Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't understand. You ar
Chris F Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (I) wrote:
> Do you reject that there could be something more general than what a
> type theorist discusses? Or do you reject calling such things a type?
Chris Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that the correspondence partly in t
I wrote:
> These informal systems, which may not prove what they claim to prove
> are my concept of a "type system".
Chris Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> Okay, that works. I'm not sure where it gets us, though
Ok, we'll get there. First, we need to step back in time, to when there
was
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