Re: mxCGIPython binaries for Python 2.3.5

2005-02-14 Thread EP
> Original Message > From: Oleg Broytmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >http://www.egenix.com/files/python/mxCGIPython.html > > > doesn't involve downloading & unpacking a file. > >It is unpackable, ready-to-run python binary. > > PS. I am neither author nor maintain

Re: mxCGIPython binaries for Python 2.3.5

2005-02-14 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 08:06:03AM -0800, EP wrote: > I'm unschooled in non-Windows binaries. Does this mean it may be > possible to download this package onto a (for example) SunOS system, > unpack and have Python up and running? That would be sweet... Almost. You also need *.py from the sta

Re: mxCGIPython binaries for Python 2.3.5

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"EP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://www.egenix.com/files/python/mxCGIPython.html > I'm unschooled in non-Windows binaries. Does this mean it may be possible > to download this package onto a (for example) SunOS system, unpack and > have Python up and running? yes. (that's the whole poi

Python C API version mismatch for module pytspc ---Gyach voice chat problems

2005-02-14 Thread atulhi
I've been having some problems with gyach, when trying to open the PyVoice chat portion of it. Following error is received *** /usr/local/share/gyach/pyvoice/pytsp.py:2: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for m

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> Now, it's rather common to accuse people of trolling these days. > The fact that Markus Wankus said that Ilias is a troll does not mean > that everybody should reply to him in that tone. > This is a one .vs many battle and it sucks. Just because someone says somebody else is a troll surely is no

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Pat
Wow! I must say, I'm less than impressed with the responses so far. I know Ilias can give the impression that he is just trolling, but I can assure you he is not. At least, not in this case. ;-) So in an effort to make some headway, I'm going to try to summarize the current state of affairs.

nested lists as arrays

2005-02-14 Thread naturalborncyborg
Hi, I'm using nested lists as arrays and having some problems with that approach. In my puzzle class there is a swapelement method which doesn't work out. Any help and comments on the code will be appreciated. Thanks. # Puzzle.py # class for a sliding block puzzle # an starting state of a 8-puzzl

Re: Tkinter option_add for menu radiobutton

2005-02-14 Thread Bob Greschke
"Eric Brunel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:31:18 -0700, Bob Greschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > [snip] >> Root.option_add("*Radiobutton*selectColor", "black") >> >> also works fine for regular radiobuttons. What I can't >> do is get the

Re: FS: O'Reilly Python Pocket Reference

2005-02-14 Thread Dave Cook
On 2005-02-14, Christopher Culver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am offering for sale a copy of O'Reilly's _Python Pocket Reference_. > It is the second edition, covering Python 2. It is in fine condition, > with no broken spine or dog-earned pages. One might even believe it > just came out of the

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Pat" wrote: > The bottom line is that compiling C extension modules on the > Windows platform for Python 2.4 is, today, a royal pain in the > ass. really? > python setup.py install works for me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: webbrowser.py

2005-02-14 Thread Timothy Babytch
Jeremy Sanders wrote: It occurs to me that webbrowser could be more intelligent on Linux/Unix systems. Both Gnome and KDE have default web browsers, so one could use their settings to choose the appropriate browser. I haven't been able to find a freedesktop common standard for web browser, however

ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 1.0000000000e+00

2005-02-14 Thread Martin MOKREJŠ
Hi, is this a bug or "feature" that I have to use float() to make int() autoconvert from it? $ python Python 2.3.4 (#1, Feb 14 2005, 10:00:27) [GCC 3.3.5 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.5-r1, ssp-3.3.2-3, pie-8.7.7.1)] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. a = 1 "%5.

Re: nested lists as arrays

2005-02-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > why can't I do this: > > > > dummy = self.elements[toy][tox] > > > > self.elements[toy][tox] = self.elements[fromy][fromx] > > self.elements[fromy][fromx] = dummy > > > > after initialising my nested list

Re: nested lists as arrays

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"naturalborncyborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I'm using nested lists as arrays and having some problems with > that approach. In my puzzle class there is a swapelement method which > doesn't work out. what happens, and what do you expect? > Any help and comments on the code will be apprec

Re: Probel with socket "recv" function on Win2000

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Guy Machlev wrote: > I have a problem with the socket recv() function while using it on > win-2000, the problem accrue while receiving data from socket in a > constant format (e.g. 1Byte then 4Bytes and then number of bytes > according to the previous 4Bytes number), this receiving action "fail" >

Re: nested lists as arrays

2005-02-14 Thread Michael Spencer
naturalborncyborg wrote: Hi, I'm using nested lists as arrays and having some problems with that approach. In my puzzle class there is a swapelement method which doesn't work out. What "doesn't work out"? On casual inspection that method seems to "work": >>> p = Puzzle(2) >>> p.elements[0][0] =

[newbie] - How to remain at prompt after script execution?

2005-02-14 Thread Amit Dhingra
I am a total newbie learning the very basics I would like to excute a script and upon completion, how can I just a python prompt with the functions and variables already defined. I know you can do this in the window gui(IDLE). I was wondering if this can be done in POSIX systems as well. -- htt

Re: [newbie] Confused with raise w/o args

2005-02-14 Thread jfj
Fredrik Lundh wrote: "jfj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wait! second that. We would like to hmm. are you seconding yourself, and refering to you and yourself as we? :) "we" refers to all python users. no. your foo() function raises B, and is called from the exception handler in b1. exception han

Re: ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 1.0000000000e+00

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Martin MOKREJ© wrote: > is this a bug or "feature" that I have to use float() to make int() > autoconvert > from it? it's by design, of course. "1.00e+00" is not an integer. if you want to treat a floating point literal as an integer, you have to use an explicit conversion. --

Re: ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 1.0000000000e+00

2005-02-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2005-02-14, Martin MOKREJ© <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is this a bug or "feature" that I have to use float() to make int() > autoconvert > from it? It's a feature. Integers don't have decimal points... -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I just had a NOSE

Re: nested lists as arrays

2005-02-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the code. What I want to do is this: I want to solve the block puzzle problem. The problem is as follows: You have a nxn Array of Numbers and one empty space. Now you there are up to four possible moves: up, right, down and left, so that each neighbour of the empty slot can be moved the

Re: Problem with nested lists as arrays

2005-02-14 Thread Terry Reedy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Having trouble' is too vague to figure out. However, I would delete this: >def getEmptySlot(self): >i = 0 >j = 0 >while i <= self.dim-1: >while j <= self.dim-1: >if self.eleme

Re: [newbie] - How to remain at prompt after script execution?

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Amit Dhingra wrote: > I would like to excute a script and upon completion, how can I just a python > prompt with the functions and variables already defined. > > I know you can do this in the window gui(IDLE). I was wondering if this can > be done in POSIX systems as well. does "python -i" do wha

Re: Kill GIL

2005-02-14 Thread Donn Cave
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Brueck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donn Cave wrote: [... re stackless inside-out event loop ] > > I put that together with real OS threads once, where the I/O loop was a > > message queue instead of select. A message queueing multi-threaded > > architecture c

Re: nested lists as arrays

2005-02-14 Thread Terry Reedy
"Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >And use xrange instead of range. For small dimensions like 3,4,5, xrange is way overkill and perhaps takes both more space and time. Since dim is a constant for a given puzzle, I would set self._range = range(dim) in __init__() and us

Scan document pages to a compressed PDF

2005-02-14 Thread Ed Suominen
I'd like to write a Python-based commandline tool that will scan pages with SANE, applying CCITT Group 4 compression during scanning, and produce a single PDF file. I would release it under GPL. Right now, I'm relying on a workable but inflexible shell script that pipes stuff between scanimage, tif

RE: Help with embedding fully qualified script name

2005-02-14 Thread Robert Brewer
Kamilche wrote: > To avoid pathname headaches, I've taken to including the following 3 > lines at the top of every script that will be double-clicked: > > import os, sys > pathname, scriptname = os.path.split(sys.argv[0]) > pathname = os.path.abspath(pathname) > os.chdir(pathname) Putting the sys

thanks jean

2005-02-14 Thread James
hi jean :) thanks for your help :) i'll try it :) i missed your message... did a search in google and found your reply :) thanks a lot :) best regards, James -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Scan document pages to a compressed PDF

2005-02-14 Thread Paul Rubin
Ed Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's the best way currently to do CCITT4 compression (e.g., of > intermediate TIFF-format images) from Python? PIL doesn't seem to support > CCITT4 compression, and the read-only patch [1] that's available won't help > in my case. I'd like to incorporate

Re: ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 1.0000000000e+00

2005-02-14 Thread Terry Reedy
"Martin MOKREJ©" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] int(somestring) without a radix argument requires that somestring be an decimal integer literal and nothing more and nothing else. >>> int('1') 1 >>> int('1.0') Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in

Re: ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 1.0000000000e+00

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Terry Reedy wrote: > int(somestring) without a radix argument requires that somestring be an > decimal integer literal > and nothing more and nothing else. but specifying a radix won't help you, though: >>> int("1.0", 10) Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ? ValueError: i

Re: Second posting - Howto connect to MsSQL

2005-02-14 Thread Ames Andreas
Hello, John Fabiani wrote: > Are there others using Python to connect MsSQL? At the moment I'd > accept even a windows solution - although, I'm looking for a Linux > solution. You'll need to get one out of each category: 1) ODBC manager: unixOdbc or iOdbc 2) Python ODBC wrapper: mxOdbc (www.e

Re: [newbie] - How to remain at prompt after script execution?

2005-02-14 Thread Amit Dhingra
Thanx Fredrik, that works and thats what I wanted. Amit "Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Amit Dhingra wrote: > > > I would like to excute a script and upon completion, how can I just a python > > prompt with the functions and variables already defined.

Re: gui scripting

2005-02-14 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tonino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >HI, > >I have a 2 phase question: > >Phase 1 is I am needing to automate a report generation from a >proprietary product. Currently a person sits and input's the data into >a GUI frontend and clicks's the appropriate buttons to sta

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Diez B. Roggisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> One of the most funny things within open-source is that switching: >> >> first: >> "we have powerfull solutions which beat this and that" >> >> then: >> "hey, this is just volunteer work" >> > >I don't see the contrad

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Pat
So what if someone appears to be a troll? Suck it up and rise above it. This thread started with legitimate questions. Unfortunately, almost every response has been dismissive, petty, and a complete waste of time and effort. Please respond to the issue or simply ignore it. The issue is real and

Re: nested lists as arrays

2005-02-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Allright. What difference in runtime and space would it make using dictionaries instead? Do you have a pointer for me concerning runtime of standard manipulations in Pythons? Thanks for tip. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: nested lists as arrays

2005-02-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Allright. What difference in runtime and space would it make using dictionaries instead? Do you have a pointer for me concerning runtime of standard manipulations in Pythons? Thanks for the tip. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

webbrowser._iscommand(): is there a public version?

2005-02-14 Thread Daniel Yoo
Hi everyone, I was curious to know: does the functionality of webbrowser._iscommand() live anywhere else in the Standard Library? webbrowser._iscommand() is a helper function that searches through PATH, and seems useful enough that I was surprised that it didn't live in a more public place like

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Pat
I thought I was being as clear and specific as I needed to be. Apparently not. I'm talking about compiling the original source code, per the recommendations made by Mike Fletcher and documented here: Python 2.4 Extensions w/ the MS Toolkit Compiler http://www.vrplumber.com/programming/mstoolkit/

Recursive __cmp__ in different Python versions

2005-02-14 Thread Roman Suzi
#The following Python code: class X: def __cmp__(self, y): print "cmp", self, y return cmp(self, y) x = X() print x < 10 # gives interesting results under different Python version. The most common sense in the result in Python 2.4: recursion limit reached. Python 2.3 tries 20+ times and t

Re: [PATCH] allow partial replace in string.Template

2005-02-14 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > a) Patches are more likely to be looked at if placed on the SF patch tracker. > > b) I don't quite see the point, given how easy these are to spell using the > basic safe_substitute. You're replacing one liners with one-liners. c) add a documentati

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread David Fraser
Pat wrote: Wow! I must say, I'm less than impressed with the responses so far. I know Ilias can give the impression that he is just trolling, but I can assure you he is not. At least, not in this case. ;-) So in an effort to make some headway, I'm going to try to summarize the current state of

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Wow! I must say, I'm less than impressed with the responses so far. I know Ilias can give the impression that he is just trolling, but I can assure you he is not. At least, not in this case. ;-) He deserves what he gets. He appears

Re: newbie question - identifying name of method

2005-02-14 Thread Terry Reedy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Does Python provide some sort of mechanism for answering the question: > what method am I in? I believe that Python, the language defined in the Ref Manual, does not. The CPython implementation adds enough introspection into its work

Re: nested lists as arrays

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Allright. What difference in runtime and space would it make using > dictionaries instead? is this for an interactive game? if so, the answer is "none at all". (on my machine, you can make about 600 dict[x,y] accesses per second, compared to 750 list[x][y] acc

Re: changing __call__ on demand

2005-02-14 Thread Hans Nowak
Stefan Behnel wrote: Hi! This somewhat puzzles me: Python 2.4 (#1, Feb 3 2005, 16:47:05) [GCC 3.3.4 (pre 3.3.5 20040809)] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. .>>> class test(object): ... def __init__(self): ... self.__call__ = self.__call1 ... d

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Kellett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Studio Express (downloadable from the Microsoft's website). This DLL is (to my understanding) part of Visual Studio 7.1 and Visual Studio Express. My mistake. Visual Studio Express is going to be part of Version 8 (2005)

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes now it feels like I'm in the company of a bunch of hell-bent school bullies. From my experience of bully behaviour that isn't what is happening here. Bullying usually involves abusive behaviour and language and isn't much to do with

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Pat
Actually, no. We ran into some issues with Python 2.4 that caused us to return to Python 2.3.5. But I would really like to upgrade to Python 2.4. So I started researching the subject before I did anything. If you are telling me that minGW can compile extensions that are compatible with the Pyth

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2005-02-14, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fredrik Lundh wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote The idea that the Python Foundation cares about user needs would affect that. please let the users speak for themselves. I have. I've review several threads,publications, action

Re: Recursive __cmp__ in different Python versions

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Roman Suzi wrote: > #The following Python code: > > /.../ > > # gives interesting results under different Python version. > The most common sense in the result in Python 2.4: recursion > limit reached. > > Python 2.3 tries 20+ times and then give up. > > Python1.5 gives segmentation fault... is t

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Pat
Stephen, I appreciate your responses. Maybe "school bullies" was an exaggeration on my part. At the same time, I'm not sure it is good for the Python community to expect everyone to roll up their sleeves and hack at something to make it work. (And I don't mean to imply that you hold that opinio

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
jfj a écrit : bruno modulix wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I'm a newcomer to python: [EVALUATION] - E01: The Java Failure - May Python Helps? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/75f0c5c35374f553 My trollometer's beeping... When person 'A' calls person 'B' a troll, these are t

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Actually, no. We ran into some issues with Python 2.4 that caused us to return to Python 2.3.5. But I would really like to upgrade to Python 2.4. So I started researching the subject before I did anything. Pat, could you include som

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Stephen Kellett a écrit : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Simon Brunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:12:57 +0100, bruno modulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why do you hate Perl and Ruby community that much ? Oh, I don't. But fair's fair - we've carried our share of the burden,

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Pat"wrote: > I thought I was being as clear and specific as I needed to be. > Apparently not. I'm talking about compiling the original source code the python source or the extension source? > The bottom line is that compiling C extension modules would indicate the latter. setup.py handle

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Pat
>>users. I can't expect them to purchase a .NET compiler or go through a >See above. That answers the cost question (assuming that your interpretation of the licensing is correct, since I'm not a lawyer nor qualified to render much of an opinion on that). But there is still the issue of going t

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Pat
Stephen Kellet said: Pat, could you include some context in your replies? I have no idea if you are replying to my comments about Visual Studio Express or someone else? The only text I see in your replies is what you write, no text from the posting you are replying to. As it is I've ignored all y

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes That answers the cost question (assuming that your interpretation of the licensing is correct, since I'm not a lawyer nor qualified to render much of an opinion on that). But there is still the issue of going through a bunch of config

Can't subclass datetime.datetime?

2005-02-14 Thread Grant Edwards
Is it true that a datetime object can convert itself into a string, but not the other way around? IOW, there's no simple way to take the output from str(d) and turn it back into d? So, I tried to create a class that knows how to do that, but I don't seem to be able to subclass datetime.datetime:

DHTML control from Python?

2005-02-14 Thread Kenneth McDonald
Are there any ways to use Python (rather than JavaScript) for controlling DHTML? I don't mind writing JavaScript stubs which can be called by Python, so long as I need to do so only once for a particular feature. I'm running Mac OS X 10.3, so comments as to the best browser for testing this woul

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Pat
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > "Pat"wrote: > > > I thought I was being as clear and specific as I needed to be. > > Apparently not. I'm talking about compiling the original source code > > the python source or the extension source? > > > The bottom line is that compiling C extension modules > > would

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes if I have both versions of Python installed - 2.3.5 and 2.4? Is there an easy way to detect this and switch between the two dlls? Easy? Depends what you call easy. a) You just need to detect if pythonNN.dll is implicitly linked to ms

Re: Can't subclass datetime.datetime?

2005-02-14 Thread Steven Bethard
Grant Edwards wrote: Is it true that a datetime object can convert itself into a string, but not the other way around? IOW, there's no simple way to take the output from str(d) and turn it back into d? I assume this is true because there is not one standard format for a date-time string. But I d

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Pat
Stephen Kellett wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pat > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >That answers the cost question (assuming that your interpretation of > >the licensing is correct, since I'm not a lawyer nor qualified to > >render much of an opinion on that). But there is still the issue

Re: changing __call__ on demand

2005-02-14 Thread F. Petitjean
Le Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:19:03 -0500, Hans Nowak a écrit : > Stefan Behnel wrote: >> Hi! >> >> This somewhat puzzles me: >> >> Python 2.4 (#1, Feb 3 2005, 16:47:05) >> [GCC 3.3.4 (pre 3.3.5 20040809)] on linux2 >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >> >> .>>> c

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread A.B., Khalid
Pat wrote: > There have been extensive discussions about these issues on the > Python-Dev mailing list over the past couple of months (mostly in > December, but continuing to the present - see > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2004-December/thread.html > as a starting point), which seem

Re: Considering python - have a few questions.

2005-02-14 Thread Nick Vargish
Grumman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If running on a Mac really is a goal, ditch Access, its windows > only. You'd want to look into MySQL, PostgreSQl or some such for > inter-platform use. Depending on how large the dataset is likely to get, SQLite may be a good choice for the data-handling bac

Re: For American numbers

2005-02-14 Thread Scott David Daniels
Neil Benn wrote: Scott David Daniels wrote: Kind of fun exercise (no good for British English). what's American about it? If anything, it's more French than American ;-) Well, actually this started with scaling integers, and I was worried about a billion / billionth (and up / down). In mid-task I

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Pat" wrote: > Okay, I think we are pretty much talking about the same thing. My > problem is not that I'm unable or unwilling to purchase a good > compiler. My problem is that I don't want to make it a requirement of > my users. The twist is that my users will be working out of a > Subversion

64 bit Python

2005-02-14 Thread Mathias Waack
Hi, one of my colleagues got some trouble with a program handling large amounts of data. I figured out that a 32 bit application on HP-UX cannot address more than 1 GB of memory. In fact (I think due to the overhead of memory management done by python) a python application cannot use much more th

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Pat" wrote: > If you are telling me that minGW can compile extensions that are > compatible with the Python 2.4 that uses msvcr71.dll, then that is good > news indeed. Is there anything that needs to be configured or patched > to make this happen? And how does minGW know which dll to link? Wha

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Pat" wrote: > Having to tell users that they need to download, install, and configure > all this additional compiler stuff is asking too much from my potential > user base, since I'm also targeting novices and developers from other > languages for whom C compiler stuff is going to be a barrier to

Re: is there a safe marshaler?

2005-02-14 Thread Paul Rubin
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Pickle and marshal are not safe. They can do harmful things if fed > > maliciously constructed data. That is a pity, because marshal is fast. > > I think marshal could be fixed; the only unsafety I'm aware of is that > it doesn't always act rati

pb ssl + select

2005-02-14 Thread Ktm
Hi, the following code (just taken on the example) blocks on recv unless I uncomment the 'send' function. I tested it with stunnel. Select seems to tell that there is something to read whereas there is nothing. Moreover why does it block since I am in non blocking mode ? - from OpenSSL impo

Re: Iterator / Iteratable confusion

2005-02-14 Thread Francis Girard
Le dimanche 13 FÃvrier 2005 23:58, Terry Reedy a ÃcritÂ: > Iterators are a subgroup of iterables. ÂBeing able to say iter(it) without > having to worry about whether 'it' is just an iterable or already an > iterator is one of the nice features of the new iteration design. > > Terry J. Reedy Hi, I

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Stephen Kellett wrote: >>if I have both versions of Python installed - 2.3.5 and 2.4? Is there >>an easy way to detect this and switch between the two dlls? > > Easy? Depends what you call easy. in the context of "building a C extension when you have multiple versions installed", the answer is "

RE: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Tony Meyer
>> In addition, there are some unresolved licensing questions >> concerning the .NET runtime file for extensions (msvcr71.dll): [...] > msvcr71.dll is a redistributable for applications written using their > compiler. You can redistribute that. If (and only if) you own a copy of the (non-free) M

Re: Newbie help

2005-02-14 Thread Francis Girard
Mmm. This very much look like a homework from school. Right ? Francis Girard Le lundi 14 Février 2005 04:03, Chad Everett a écrit : > Hey guys, > > Hope you can help me again with another problem. I am trying to learn > Python on my own and need some help with the following. > > I am writing a pr

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Kellett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes if I have both versions of Python installed - 2.3.5 and 2.4? Is there an easy way to detect this and switch between the two dlls? Easy? Depends what you call

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes What configuration hassle? Can't be any harder than specifying a different CRT surely? I don't want to have to ask users of my code to have to go through this: http://www.vrplumber.com/programming/mstoolkit/ OK. I misunderstood your or

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Pat
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > "Pat" wrote: > > > Okay, I think we are pretty much talking about the same thing. My > > problem is not that I'm unable or unwilling to purchase a good > > compiler. My problem is that I don't want to make it a requirement of > > my users. The twist is that my users will

Re: changing __call__ on demand

2005-02-14 Thread Steven Bethard
F. Petitjean wrote: Le Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:19:03 -0500, Hans Nowak a écrit : Note that it works just fine if you don't use a new-style class: class Test: ... def __init__(self): ... self.__call__ = self.foobar ... def foobar(self, *args, **kwargs): ... print "Called with:",

Re: Can't subclass datetime.datetime?

2005-02-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2005-02-14, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> Is it true that a datetime object can convert itself into a >> string, but not the other way around? IOW, there's no simple >> way to take the output from str(d) and turn it back into d? > > I assume this is true be

Re: Can't subclass datetime.datetime?

2005-02-14 Thread Kent Johnson
Grant Edwards wrote: Is it true that a datetime object can convert itself into a string, but not the other way around? IOW, there's no simple way to take the output from str(d) and turn it back into d? According to this thread, a patch has been checked in that adds strptime() to datetime. So there

Re: Commerical graphing packages?

2005-02-14 Thread Francis Girard
Le lundi 14 Février 2005 11:02, David Fraser a écrit : > Erik Johnson wrote: > > I am wanting to generate dynamic graphs for our website and would > > rather not invest the time in developing the code to draw these starting > > from graphics primitives. I am looking for something that is... "fa

RE: two questions - no common theme

2005-02-14 Thread Batista, Facundo
Title: RE: two questions - no common theme [EMAIL PROTECTED] #- Any help will be greatly appreciated. It's always better to address two different questions in two different mails, with appropiate subjects. .    Facundo Bitácora De Vuelo: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog PyAr - Python

[Errno 18] Invalid cross-device link using os.rename

2005-02-14 Thread Scott Whitney
oldName=/backup/backups/data/WWW_httpd.conf_backups/20050204.httpd.conf newName=/backup_old/data/WWW_httpd.conf_backups/20050204.httpd.conf os.rename(oldName,newName) gives: OSError: [Errno 18] Invalid cross-device link mv from the shell works fine. This is Python 2.2.3 from RedHat 9.0. Any s

Re: [Errno 18] Invalid cross-device link using os.rename

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Scott Whitney wrote: > os.rename(oldName,newName) gives: > > OSError: [Errno 18] Invalid cross-device link > > mv from the shell works fine. > > This is Python 2.2.3 from RedHat 9.0. > > Any suggestions (other than os.system('mv %s %s')?) catch exception and copy if error == errno.EXDEV. (this i

Re: Newbie help

2005-02-14 Thread Chad Everett
Nope, I am trying to learn it on my own. I am using the book by Michael Dawson. Thanks, "Francis Girard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mmm. This very much look like a homework from school. Right ? Francis Girard Le lundi 14 Février 2005 04:03, Chad Everett a écri

Re: DHTML control from Python?

2005-02-14 Thread Do Re Mi chel La Si Do
See Pamie : http://pamie.sourceforge.net @-salutations -- Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Scan document pages to a compressed PDF

2005-02-14 Thread Ed Suominen
Replying to my own post, this looks like a very promising tool: "Pytiff is a library for using TIFF files and advanced imaging in Python." http://pubweb.northwestern.edu/~omh221/software_projects/pytiff/pytiff.html Ed Suominen wrote: > I'd like to write a Python-based commandline tool that will

Re: 64 bit Python

2005-02-14 Thread Ivan Voras
Mathias Waack wrote: amounts of data. I figured out that a 32 bit application on HP-UX cannot address more than 1 GB of memory. In fact (I think due to the overhead of memory management done by python) a python application cannot use much more than 500 MB of "real" data. For this reason I don't thi

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes There are also other conditions, to do with what you are redistributing it with (it can't be alone), and including a particular type of license with your redistribution. (It appears that Python 2.4 doesn't correctly follow this

Re: Commerical graphing packages?

2005-02-14 Thread John Hunter
> "Francis" == Francis Girard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Francis> PyX might also be interesting, depending on your needs. While pyx is a very nice package, it is probably not a good choice for web app developers simply because it generates postscript, which is not very browser friendly.

Re: DHTML control from Python?

2005-02-14 Thread Do Re Mi chel La Si Do
Oh, Sorry, I had read too fast. I see, now, the word "Mac". Apologies. Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Newbie help

2005-02-14 Thread Francis Girard
Sorry. You have my cheers. I'm suggesting you to use the python debugger through some GUI ("Eric3" http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3.html for example is a nice and easy to use GUI). It will greatly help you appreciate Python control flow in execution and you will learn a lot more trying

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I like to synchronize any efforts with the existing ones. I assume the reason for doing that would be to avoid duplicating effort? If that is the case why do you want lots of people all to answer your questionnaire. Thats

Re: - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

2005-02-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Pat" wrote: > A few things. Primarily the fact that I'm not very experienced in C > (the extensions that I need to have compiled are not written by me). > Secondarily, the fact that the discussion threads I read made it seem > much more complicated than what you just described. from two posts a

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