Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits

2005-01-05 Thread Alex Martelli
Premshree Pillai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do contributors of less than 5 recipes get a copy too? :-? Of course! > Btw, is there a comprehensive list of ALL contributors put up anywhere? Not yet -- do you think I should put it up on my website? Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listi

RE: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread EP
Roman wrote: > Maybe OP doesn't yet fully comprehend the ways of Python universe? > > Don't misinterpret this response. I know it was a rambling. But > *maybe* you > > have something to contribute to Python development, even good ideas > only and > > no work. > > > > .Facundo Am I selli

Re: The Industry choice

2005-01-05 Thread EP
Bulba! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frankly, I find such models to be built on over-stretched analogies > to physics - how _exactly_ is gravity supposed to be an analogy > equivalent to economic "forces"? Sure such model can be built - but > is it adequate in explaining real-world phenomenons? An

Concepts RE: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Roman Suzi
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, EP wrote: >Roman wrote: > >> Maybe OP doesn't yet fully comprehend the ways of Python universe? > > > >> > Don't misinterpret this response. I know it was a rambling. But >> *maybe* you >> > have something to contribute to Python development, even good ideas >> only and >> > no

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:19:32 -0600, Skip Montanaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Terry> Numarray has a record array type. If there is not one publicly > Terry> available, perhaps you could write a CSV file to record-array > Terry> slurper and contribute it to the Recipes site or maybe

Re: Keyword arguments - strange behaviour?

2005-01-05 Thread brian . bird
Thanks. In case anyone else is looking, the recipe is at: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/303440 (which also shows how to make it work with python2.3 and below since they don't support decorators) Brian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python! Is! Truly! Amazing!

2005-01-05 Thread Richie Hindle
[Erik] > I am now a super gushing fan-boy. +1 Quote of the Week! -- Richie Hindle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits (was Re: The Industry choice)

2005-01-05 Thread Jacek Generowicz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: > ...but each still gets ONE free copy...!-) Who gets Luther Blissett's copy ? :-) And are all the Luther Blissetts the same Luther Blisset ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Dec 30)

2005-01-05 Thread Max M
Carl Banks wrote: Also, note that there are some encodings unrelated to Unicode. For example, try this: . >>> "abcd".encode("base64") This is an encoding between two byte strings. Yes. This can be especially nice when you need to use restricted charsets. I needed to use unicode objects as Zope ids

Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits

2005-01-05 Thread Premshree Pillai
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:55:39 +0100, Alex Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Premshree Pillai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Do contributors of less than 5 recipes get a copy too? :-? > > Of course! > > > Btw, is there a comprehensive list of ALL contributors put up anywhere? > > Not yet --

Re: OT: spacing of code in Google Groups

2005-01-05 Thread Jacek Generowicz
Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > I always rather liked line numbers (a-la 'can -n'). That also > > makes discussion of the code easier: > > That, unfortunately, is somewhat harder to remove without > using a regular expression... You mean to say that your edit

Re: The Industry choice

2005-01-05 Thread Alex Martelli
Bulba! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > First, even though I disagree with you in places, thanks for > this reply - it enhanced my knowledge of the topic in some You're welcome! > What you wrote regards especially strong the industries you pointed > at: fashion, jewellery, esp. I think in tho

Re: Embedding a restricted python interpreter

2005-01-05 Thread Fuzzyman
Fredrick Lundh (at www.effbot.org ) was working on a 'cut down python' that only implements the bits of python he likes !! It would be great if the core of that interpreter could be used as a 'restricted interpreter'. If you could externally disable os, sys, os.path modules etc and limit the set

Re: Looking for CORBA (omniORB) examples

2005-01-05 Thread Duncan Grisby
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >can we script CORBA objects/events with python. my search for simple >examples has not yielded any results. any help appreciated. There are some simple examples in the omniORBpy distribution. There are a few more examples in this presen

Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits (was Re: The Industry choice)

2005-01-05 Thread gabriele renzi
Jacek Generowicz ha scritto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: ...but each still gets ONE free copy...!-) Who gets Luther Blissett's copy ? :-) And are all the Luther Blissetts the same Luther Blisset ? no, some of them are Wu Ming http://www.wumingfoundation.com/ (from http://www.lutherb

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Rubin
Ville Vainio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To me, this seems to be the job for the Fedora maintainers, not Python > maintainers. If something essential is not in the distro the distro > maintainers have screwed up. I can't parse that. It says two contradictory things. Sentence 2 says that if som

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Dunno about Fedora, I stopped using Red Hat just because they were > *not* using the standard Python distribution, and the version they > shipped was cripped in various ways. Eh? I used Red Hat for a long while and don't remember their crippling the Python distribution

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Rubin
"EP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Python: it tastes so good it makes you hungrier. QOTW -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Concepts RE: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Rubin
Roman Suzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As for concepts, they are from Generic Programming (by Musser and > Stepanov) and I feel that Python is in position to implement them to > the fullest extent. And IMHO it will be nicer than just Java-like > interfaces or Eiffel's contract approach. I keep

Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits

2005-01-05 Thread Fuzzyman
Hmm... I'd love to see a list... just to know if I'm on it. Permission was sought for several of my recipes, but I don't know if any were actually used. I'm very curious... Regards, Fuzzy http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread worzel
is python more popular than coldfusion? I realsie that is a very general question as one thing does not directly relate to the other. My issue is that I am ditching coldfusion due to there being next to no work for it, and I am thinking of taking on python as a second language to java in the

Re: Concepts RE: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Rubin
Paul Rubin writes: > There is nothing in Wikipedia about [Generic programming]. Oops: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_programming This helps. But I don't see how it's different from what used to be called polymorphism. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread Fuzzyman
Definitely ! Fuzzy http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread Premshree Pillai
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:59:21 +0800, worzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > is python more popular than coldfusion? I don't know if Coldfusion _was_ ever more "popular" than Python, but Python is definitely more "popular" _now_. This might be of some help: http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm >

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread huy
The Python advocates who claim that Python is well-documented and take exception to when someone say it isn't. Their idea of "it's well-documented" seems to be "if there's parts that you think are poorly documented, feel free to document it". What kind of nonsense is that? I'm not sure which p

Re: How do I make Windows Application with Python ?

2005-01-05 Thread Fuzzyman
Couple of corrections - neither pypy nor starkiller are compilers. Starkiller isn't available yet and *may* be helpful in building compilers. Pyrex is an alternative language - a python/C hybrid that can be compiled. If you want to release an application then innosetup, starkit, and upx might help

Re: why does UserDict.DictMixin use keys instead of __iter__?

2005-01-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
Steven Bethard wrote: Nick Coghlan wrote: .keys() is definitely part of the standard dictionary interface, and not something the mixin can derive from the generic container methods. Why is that? Isn't keys derivable as: def keys(self): return list(self) if __iter__ is defined? As you may hav

Re: python 3000 and removal of builtin callable

2005-01-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nicolas Fleury wrote: Mirko Zeibig wrote: This is not an option for e.g. IDEs as some functions might actually do something when called ;-) and I like `callable` for introspection. Other ways would be to check for the `__call__` attribute or use several methods of the `inspect`-Module, both of w

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread worzel
How seriuosly do folk take the TIOBE index? Is it a good way to ague what you should be keeping up to speed with or just a 'vague' guide? "Premshree Pillai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:59:21 +0800, worzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>

Re: Using python to deploy software

2005-01-05 Thread Anand
Hmm... did not watch this thread. Regarding sharing code, well I am sure you will be able to quickly produce some working client/server using Pyro for doing your task. Pyro makes it very easy to do RMI due to its network broadcast way of querying the name server. If you are not able to make any h

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread Premshree Pillai
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:09:54 +0800, worzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How seriuosly do folk take the TIOBE index? Is it a good way to ague what > you should be keeping up to speed with or just a 'vague' guide? I use the TIOBE index -- sometimes -- when I give presentations on Python (and Ruby) to

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Alex Martelli
Dave Brueck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > No, not at all - I'm just trying to better understand what you mean. Words > like "generic" and "concepts" don't yet have a widely recognized, strict > definition in the context of programming. If somebody has assigned some > specific definition to th

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Skip Montanaro
Terry> Numarray has a record array type. If there is not one publicly Terry> available, perhaps you could write a CSV file to record-array Terry> slurper and contribute it to the Recipes site or maybe even the Terry> CSV module. >> >> -1 on putting such a beast into the C

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread worzel
Wth respect to coldfusion, is there much doubt about the fact that Python is a more prominent and important technology? How is colfusion percieved by the Python community? Many people belive coldfusion is becomeing irrelavant and is on its death bed - do Python folk generally feel this way abou

Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits

2005-01-05 Thread Alex Martelli
Premshree Pillai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:55:39 +0100, Alex Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Premshree Pillai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Do contributors of less than 5 recipes get a copy too? :-? > > Of course! > > > Btw, is there a comprehensive list of ALL

Re: Concepts RE: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Skip Montanaro
Paul> Oops: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_programming Paul> This helps. But I don't see how it's different from what used to Paul> be called polymorphism. I think of generic programming as polymorphism for statically typed languages. Using the example from the Wikipedia refer

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread Premshree Pillai
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:30:40 +0800, worzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wth respect to coldfusion, is there much doubt about the fact that Python is > a more prominent and important technology? No doubt in my mind at least. > > How is colfusion percieved by the Python community? Many people beliv

Re: Reaching the real world

2005-01-05 Thread Fuzzyman
Thank you very much (to all who replied). There;'s more than enough here to make very good further enquiries. Much appreciated. Fuzzyman http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: project

2005-01-05 Thread Arich Chanachai
jerry wise wrote: Please help me out! Your solution seems doable pretty easily, but I have very little experience in this so I need some help. At the very least respond, because I'm getting kind of desperate. Thank you so much. "I'm getting kind of desperate", no kidding. Firstly, did you ask

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread beliavsky
>is python more popular than coldfusion? >I realsie that is a very general question as one thing does not directly >relate to the other. My issue is that I am ditching coldfusion due to >there being next to no work for it, and I am thinking of taking on >python as a second language to java in the

date/time

2005-01-05 Thread Nader Emami
L.S., Could somebody help me how I can get the next format of date from the time module? example: I have to have this time 20050105. It is the next attributes of format %Y%m%d. with regards, Nader -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: date/time

2005-01-05 Thread Binu K S
>>> import time >>> time.strftime('%Y%m%d',time.localtime()) '20050105' On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:08:37 +0100, Nader Emami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > L.S., > > Could somebody help me how I can get the next format of date > from the time mod

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread worzel
thanks, thats pretty much what I expected to hear. "Premshree Pillai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:30:40 +0800, worzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Wth respect to coldfusion, is there much doubt about the fact that Python >> is >> a more pr

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Roman Suzi
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Alex Martelli wrote: >Dave Brueck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... >> No, not at all - I'm just trying to better understand what you mean. Words >> like "generic" and "concepts" don't yet have a widely recognized, strict >> definition in the context of programming. If somebod

Re: Concepts RE: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Roman Suzi
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Paul Rubin wrote: >Paul Rubin writes: >> There is nothing in Wikipedia about [Generic programming]. > >Oops: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_programming > >This helps. But I don't see how it's different from what used to >be called polymorphism.

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Ville Vainio
> "Paul" == Paul Rubin writes: Paul> Ville Vainio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> To me, this seems to be the job for the Fedora maintainers, not >> Python maintainers. If something essential is not in the distro >> the distro maintainers have screwed

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Rubin
Ville Vainio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul> I can't parse that. It says two contradictory things. > Paul> Sentence 2 says that if something essential is not in the > Paul> (Python) distro then the (Python) distro maintainers have > Paul> screwed up. Sentence 1 says it's the F

Image capture

2005-01-05 Thread Catalin Lungu
Hi, Can anybody help me to implement the following VB code in Python. Thanks in advance. Private Declare Function SendMessage Lib "user32.dll" Alias _ "SendMessageA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal wMsg As Long, _ ByVal wParam As Long, ByVal lParam As Long) As Long Private Const WM_PAINT = &HF

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread beliavsky
OTOH, Here are the numbers for Average Salary by Languages Used (2 numbers, staff and management) in ascending order from the 2004 Salary Survey from Software Development Magazine. I am surprised that there is so little variation across languages: 13 out of 22 are in the $81-$85K range. But Python

Re: Image capture

2005-01-05 Thread Kartic
Catalin, Some explanation about what you are tring to do will be of immense help. Did you want to capture some other Windows object from Python or do you want to capture a Python GUI application from Python? I might be able to help out, but please send more details. Thank you, --Kartic -- http

Re: % operation

2005-01-05 Thread Rick Holbert
It also looks like you are using an old version of Python running on an old version of Linux. Time to upgrade? Christopher Koppler wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:36:30 +0900, Daewon YOON wrote: > >> >> Python 1.5.2 (#1, Jul 5 2001, 03:02:19) [GCC 2.96 2731 (Red Hat >> Linux 7.1 2 on

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > But Python IS tied for first. This may indicate that the > relatively small number of jobs listing Python as a requirement is due > in part to a relatively small supply of Python programmers, not lack of > demand for such programmers. I think it mostly means Python pro

Re: Image capture

2005-01-05 Thread Catalin Lungu
Hi, I want to capture a no visible area of a wxFrame of Python. This area contain a wxGrid object. In VB6 this code work very good. Thanks. "Kartic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en el mensaje news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Catalin, > > Some explanation about what you are tring to do will be of imm

Re: date/time

2005-01-05 Thread Thomas Guettler
Am Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:08:37 +0100 schrieb Nader Emami: > L.S., > > Could somebody help me how I can get the next format of date > from the time module? I don't understand your question. Do you want to have the next day? 20041231 --> 20050101 ? You can do it like this: - parse the string with

get the IP address of a host

2005-01-05 Thread none
I want to determine the outside (non local, a.k.a. 127.0.0.x) ip addresses of my host. It seems that the socket module provides me with some nifty tools for that but I cannot get it to work correctly it seems. Can someone enlightened show a light on this: import socket def getipaddr(hostname='de

Re: screen clear question

2005-01-05 Thread Andrew Robert
Nick Coghlan wrote: Alan Gauld wrote: But the bottom line is that there is no builtin command because the mechanism is different on each platform. I'd have said it was because the inpreter is line-oriented rather than screen-oriented, but YMMV. Cheers, Nick. I would try doing a test against the

Re: How to make executable file ?

2005-01-05 Thread Andrew Robert
BOOGIEMAN wrote: Just how to make *.exe file from python code ?? I typed this : a, b = 0, 1 while b < 1000: print b, a, b = b, a+b and saved it as pyt.txt Now, how do I make pyt.exe file ??? I want to run it on windows where isn't installed python. You may want to try cx_freeze. Det

Re: get the IP address of a host

2005-01-05 Thread Kartic
socket.gethostbyaddr(socket.gethostname()) will return a tuple containing fully qualified hostname, alternative hostnames, ip addresses (>1 if multihomed). Thanks, --Kartic -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

tk the python way

2005-01-05 Thread Gabriel Cosentino de Barros
Title: tk the python way I'm strugling a little with TK, and the docs on the web aren't helping much. I've already rewritten about twelve times a basic class that was supposed to simply draw a window. It's not even close the final draft, but i tought "well, let's start with something easy t

Re: How to make executable file ?

2005-01-05 Thread Catalin Lungu
Also, you can try with py2exe. It's very easy. Catalin. "Andrew Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en el mensaje news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > BOOGIEMAN wrote: >> Just how to make *.exe file from python code ?? >> I typed this : >> >> a, b = 0, 1 >> while b < 1000: >> print b, >> a, b = b, a+b >> >>

Re: How to make executable file ?

2005-01-05 Thread Fuzzyman
An alternative way is to use Movable Python. It's a frozen distribution of python that can run without being 'installed'. See http://sourceforge.net/projects/movpy To display things in a 'window' you'll need to use a GUI toolkit like Tkinter or wxPython. Regards, Fuzzy http://www.voidspace.org.u

Re: get the IP address of a host

2005-01-05 Thread Kartic
or socket.gethostbyname(socket.gethostname()) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: How to make executable file ?

2005-01-05 Thread Gabriel Cosentino de Barros
Title: RE: How to make executable file ? > Also, you can try with py2exe. It's very easy. > Catalin. > > You may want to try cx_freeze. I brief experience with both. may be helpful 1. I did a little program on python/TK. Some 100 lines or less 2. executed cx_freeze 3. executed py2exe In

Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits (was Re: The Industry choice)

2005-01-05 Thread pyguy2
Wow I didn't realize that I made that significant of a contribution :-) > 3: 9 u'John Nielsen' Well, I guess I did and I didn't. I worked hard to put postings up before I started taking classes again at a university last fall (with little kids and working full time, classes are a frustrating ti

Re: Image capture

2005-01-05 Thread Kartic
Hi Catalin, Here are the modifications to your code. I am emailing you the complete file back to your email address. Please note that you need PIL (Python Imaging Library) to grab the window. I included a step to save the image, but you can do whatever you want with it. Thanks, --Kartic

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread Luis M. Gonzalez
worzel wrote: > Wth respect to coldfusion, is there much doubt about the fact that Python is > a more prominent and important technology? > > How is colfusion percieved by the Python community? Many people belive > coldfusion is becomeing irrelavant and is on its death bed - do Python folk > gener

Re: Pythonic search of list of dictionaries

2005-01-05 Thread Bulba!
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:57:46 +0100, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bulba! wrote: > >> I put those dictionaries into the list: >> >>oldl=[x for x in orig] # where orig=csv.DictReader(ofile ... > >If you don't "do" anything with each `x` you can wr

Python 2.4 on Windows XP

2005-01-05 Thread DavidHolt
I have a problem that I see on two different machines, one running XP SP1 and one XP SP 2. On both I installed Python 2.4. I can't seem to start IDLE. When I try to start it, I get an hourglass cursor for a short time then nothing more happens. This happens whether I click the IDLE shortcut or cl

Re: How do I make Windows Application with Python ?

2005-01-05 Thread Doug Holton
BOOGIEMAN wrote: Thanks all for very detailed answers. BTW I tried this one but it seems that it doesn't use VS'es visual designer. Also it doesn't have "build" option so it is basicly only usefull to higlight Python syntax. Active Sate Komodo looks like much better choice I don't know of any pytho

smtp question

2005-01-05 Thread Philippe C. Martin
Hi, I am testing the smtp module and have the following question: in the code below (taken from net sample) prior to adding the "Subject:" field, the email client found the "From" and the "To". Without the "Subject:" field on I get this: Email client = Evolution: the "From" field is blank Email

Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits

2005-01-05 Thread Dan Perl
"Alex Martelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Premshree Pillai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Btw, is there a comprehensive list of ALL contributors put up anywhere? > > Not yet -- do you think I should put it up on my website? Updating the status of the recipes on

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Alex Martelli
Roman Suzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex, I think you are +10 for adding interfaces into Python. "Concept" > is more compact word and I am sure it is not used as a name in existing > projects, unlike other words. Actually, I want protocols -- semantics (and pragmatics), too, not just syntax (

Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits

2005-01-05 Thread Alex Martelli
Dan Perl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Alex Martelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Premshree Pillai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Btw, is there a comprehensive list of ALL contributors put up anywhere? > > > > Not yet -- do you think I should put it up on my

RE: Python 2.4 on Windows XP

2005-01-05 Thread Batista, Facundo
Title: RE: Python 2.4 on Windows XP [DavidHolt] #- I have a problem that I see on two different machines, one running XP #- SP1 and one XP SP 2. #- #- On both I installed Python 2.4. #- #- I can't seem to start IDLE. When I try to start it, I get an IDLE uses sockets to communicate its

Re: Is there any way/where to subscribe for automated PEP status emails?

2005-01-05 Thread Thomas Heller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) writes: > I find that threads sometimes mention PEPs that I wasn't aware of, > or that an interesting one has been updated without my noticing. > > I should perhaps check the PEP site more regularly, but ISTM it shouldn't > be that hard to implement an automated n

Re: Python 2.4 on Windows XP

2005-01-05 Thread It's me
I am running 2.3 and it's doing the same thing on my computer - except that I can't even get it to start from the command prompt. It used to work but after I switched back and forth between 2.3, and 2.4 and somewhere in between, it stopped working. I hope somebody on the list would have a clue ho

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Alex Martelli
Carlos Ribeiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > - IDE: Better than what? Than IDLE? Than Eclipse? Than SPE? Than Pythonwin? > > I would like to seee Eric3, with some polish & opensourced on Win > (which means solving the Qt licensing problem). Perhaps someone could > convince Trolltech to rel

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread John Roth
"Paul Rubin" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "alex23" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It's called "having an opinion". "Good" documentation does its job, if noone else thought it was poorly documented then to them it wasn't. ... In short: grow up and just write th

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Rubin
Skip Montanaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Okay, then start doing the work necessary to incorporate that stuff into the > core. Get Fredrik to say "okay" to including his Tkinter docs, then do what > it takes to incorporate it. The fact that Fredrik can check those docs in > himself but hasn't

smtp: one more question

2005-01-05 Thread Philippe C. Martin
>Email client = Evolution: the "From" field is blank >Email client = KMail: the "To" field is blank I also notice that emails sent to myself get trashed by my provider - could that be related ? -- *** Philippe C. Martin SnakeCard LLC www.snakecard.com *

win32com.client problem

2005-01-05 Thread It's me
I've been using the win32com module with very good success in placing data onto an Excel spreadsheet. However, whenever I have an error in my script (like mapping a non-square array onto the spreadsheet), something breaks. After fixing my error and restart the Python program again, Excel would sta

Write some docs already! (was Re: Python evolution: Unease)

2005-01-05 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I would like to contribute some documentation to Python. I've got >the time, I write quite a bit, etc. I've got fairly strong opinions >about some things that need to be documented, (such as all the new >style class descriptor

Re: Securing a future for anonymous functions in Python

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Rubin
Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you consider generator expressions or list comprehensions deficient > because they don't allow several statements in the body of the for > loop? I don't see what it would mean to do otherwise. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits

2005-01-05 Thread Dan Perl
"Alex Martelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dan Perl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Alex Martelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Premshree Pillai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Btw, is there a comprehensive list of ALL co

Re: Cookbook 2nd ed Credits

2005-01-05 Thread Premshree Pillai
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:52:06 -0500, Dan Perl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Alex Martelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Dan Perl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> "Alex Martelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Premshre

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Bulba!
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:37:25 -0600, Skip Montanaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Terry> Numarray has a record array type. If there is not one publicly >Terry> available, perhaps you could write a CSV file to record-array >Terry> slurper and contribute it to the Recipes site or maybe ev

Is there any way/where to subscribe for automated PEP status emails?

2005-01-05 Thread Bengt Richter
I find that threads sometimes mention PEPs that I wasn't aware of, or that an interesting one has been updated without my noticing. I should perhaps check the PEP site more regularly, but ISTM it shouldn't be that hard to implement an automated notification of PEP status changes by email. A cron j

Re: Restore a unified diff

2005-01-05 Thread Mike Meyer
Tim Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Nick Allen] >> Unfortunately, restore does not do the same for unified_diff. I do >> not see any similar function that is intended for unified_diff. Does >> anyone know how to "restore" from a unified diff generated delta? > > That's in general impossibl

Re: smtp question

2005-01-05 Thread Kartic
Philippe, Looks like the problem lies where you have added the Subject header. You have terminated it with a \n\n and then your From and To headers. You may want to rewrite it as: server.sendmail(fromaddr, toaddrs, 'Subject:from python\r\n'+msg) Why dont you consider using the email module - ht

type declarations, interfaces, etc as program information composition

2005-01-05 Thread Bengt Richter
I just read Guido's http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=86641 "Adding Optional Static Typing to Python -- Part II" and I it struck me that if you step back to a more distant perspective, you can see specific source syntax proposals as a special case of composing program information,

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:25:37 +0100, Alex Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carlos Ribeiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... > > > - IDE: Better than what? Than IDLE? Than Eclipse? Than SPE? Than > > > Pythonwin? > > > > I would like to seee Eric3, with some polish & opensourced on Win > > (wh

RE: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Batista, Facundo
Title: RE: Python evolution: Unease [John Roth] #- I would like to contribute some documentation to Python. #- I've got the time, I write quite a bit, etc. I've got fairly #- strong opinions about some things that need to be documented, #- (such as all the new style class descriptor stuff fr

Re: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Daniel Bowett
Batista, Facundo wrote: [John Roth] #- I would like to contribute some documentation to Python. #- I've got the time, I write quite a bit, etc. I've got fairly #- strong opinions about some things that need to be documented, #- (such as all the new style class descriptor stuff from 2.2) #- and I ha

Re: Restore a unified diff

2005-01-05 Thread Tim Peters
[Nick Allen] >>> Unfortunately, restore does not do the same for unified_diff. I do >>> not see any similar function that is intended for unified_diff. >>> Does anyone know how to "restore" from a unified diff generated >>> delta? [Tim Peters] >> That's in general impossible, since unified diffs

RE: Python evolution: Unease

2005-01-05 Thread Batista, Facundo
Title: RE: Python evolution: Unease [Daniel Bowett] #- Contribute to where on Sourceforge??? Which domentation are #- we talking #- about in general? Suppose you're reading Python documentation. Don't know, for example, os.remove(). There you find that a particular parragraph is difficul

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread Mike Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>is python more popular than coldfusion? > For your specific purpose of learning a language to get a job, I > suggest visiting the site http://mshiltonj.com/sm/categories/languages/ > , where it appears that Python is mentioned about as often as Fortran > or Ada in job l

Re: is python more popular than coldfusion?

2005-01-05 Thread Premshree Pillai
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:54:53 -0600, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >>is python more popular than coldfusion? > > For your specific purpose of learning a language to get a job, I > > suggest visiting the site http://mshiltonj.com/sm/categories/languages/ > > ,

Re: smtp question

2005-01-05 Thread Mike Meyer
"Philippe C. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I am testing the smtp module and have the following question: > > in the code below (taken from net sample) prior to adding the "Subject:" > field, the email client found the "From" and the "To". Without the > "Subject:" field on I get thi

Re: modpython, apache and windows

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Holden
Sam wrote: Hi All, I am interested in learning python since I am hearing more and more about python for use in web development I am starting out on python, with knowledge of PHP some perl my current hurdle is setting up either apache 1 or 2 with python 2.3.3 I have installed modpython fine whic

Re: win32com.client problem

2005-01-05 Thread Kartic
Hi, 1. Put your COM invokations in a try/except loop. From my experience, that helped me prevent, in most cases, Excel from "hanging" and having to restart the PC too. In the except part, release the Excel (or other COM resource) (e.g.calling workbook.Close() or excelobj.Quit(), depending on the s

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