Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.13.2 and 3.12.9 now available!

2025-02-06 Thread Rust Buckett via Python-list
Thomas Wouters writes: > A small release day today! That is to say the releases are relatively > small; the day itself was of average size, as most days are. nice. -- this is my clever sig. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.2 and 3.12.9 now available!

2025-02-04 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
A small release day today! That is to say the releases are relatively small; the day itself was of average size, as most days are. <https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-13-2-and-3-12-9-now-available/79509#p-225156-python-3132-1>Python 3.13.2 Python 3.13’s second maintenance release. Abo

online course - INTRODUCTION TO PYTHON PROGRAMMING FOR BIOLOGISTS - 24-27 February

2025-02-01 Thread info--- via Python-list
Dear all, there are the last seats available for our online course - INTRODUCTION TO PYTHON PROGRAMMING FOR BIOLOGISTS Dates: 24–27 February Course Website: [ https://www.physalia-courses.org/courses-workshops/python24/ ]( https://www.physalia-courses.org/courses-workshops/python24/ ) This four

Python 3.14.0 alpha 4 is out

2025-01-14 Thread Hugo van Kemenade via Python-list
Hello, three dot fourteen dot zero alpha four! https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140a4/ This is an early developer preview of Python 3.14. Python 3.14 is still in development. This release, 3.14.0a4, is the fourth of seven planned alpha releases. Alpha releases are intended to

Re: Installing Python-3.10.16

2025-01-14 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 1/13/25 22:47, roc str via Python-list wrote: having a difficult time installing Python-3.10.16.tgz using the Python-3.20.0a2.exe installer. Please Advise Mario Ramos. Your question doesn't exactly make sense, but note this: Windows installers are not built for "security bugfix

Installing Python-3.10.16

2025-01-14 Thread roc str via Python-list
having a difficult time installing Python-3.10.16.tgz using the Python-3.20.0a2.exe installer. Please Advise Mario Ramos. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ANN: Python Meeting Düsseldorf - 22.01.2025

2025-01-09 Thread eGenix Team via Python-list
/This announcement is in German since it targets a local user group//meeting in Düsseldorf, Germany/ Ankündigung Python Meeting Düsseldorf - Januar 2025 <https://www.egenix.com/company/news/Python-Meeting-Duesseldorf-2025-01-22> Ein Treffen von Python Enthusiast

ANN: A new version (0.5.4) of python-gnupg has been released.

2025-01-07 Thread Vinay Sajip via Python-list
dback is most welcome (especially bug reports [3], patches and suggestions for improvement, or any other points via this group). Enjoy! Cheers Vinay Sajip [1] https://github.com/vsajip/python-gnupg [2] https://pypi.org/project/python-gnupg/0.5.4 [3] https://github.com/vsajip/python-gnupg/issu

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2025-01-03 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 at 09:22, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > > On 30.12.24 18:29, Michael Torrie wrote: > > On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > >> sorry you don't understand the problem… > >> > >> > You managed to make a

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2025-01-03 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 30.12.24 18:29, Michael Torrie wrote: On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: sorry you don't understand the problem… > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my sqalite

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-30 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-12-27, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: > Cameron Simpson wrote: >> On 25Dec2024 14:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: >> >I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) >> >these last times. >> > >> >I think tha

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-30 Thread Erik Max Francis via Python-list
On 12/27/24 00:58, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: Yes, it's the one saving grace of a Discourse forum, you can use it by E-Mail and it behaves quite nicely with a text mode E-Mail client such as mutt so you can keep threads separate, follow sub-threads, etc. Not quite as good as this

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-30 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > sorry you don't understand the problem… > > > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL > > I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my > sqalite3. The *only*

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 at 15:02, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL > > I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my > sqalite3. You keep saying this, but do you even know what "make

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-29 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
s a very good "mailing list" mode. I use it that was >90% of > the time, and file both posts from Discourse and posts from python-list > into my "python" mail folder. Yes, it's the one saving grace of a Discourse forum, you can use it by E-Mail and it behaves

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 26.12.24 19:33, Michael Torrie wrote: On 12/25/24 10:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: Right. That's exactly what would happen if he'd built Python using absolute paths to libraries, which is the normal way to do it. And so the solution is to rebuild Python using absolute paths to

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 26.12.24 04:55, Michael Torrie wrote: On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: 1) "cnf" is using OS python 2) os "root&q

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 26.12.24 04:55, Michael Torrie wrote: On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: 1) "cnf" is using OS python 2) os "root&q

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 26.12.24 06:46, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 14:57, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 25.12.24 23:55, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: 1) "cnf" is using OS python 2) os "root" python 3) using **my** local non-root library Yes.

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-29 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 12/29/24 15:10, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote: On 29Dec2024 07:16, Kevin M. Wilson wrote: Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for discussion? Has the list been moving towards clo

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-29 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 29Dec2024 07:16, Kevin M. Wilson wrote: Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for discussion? Has the list been moving towards closing? No, the list's still around. But there wa

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-28 Thread Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list
Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for discussion? Has the list been moving towards closing? KMW *** "When you pass through the waters, I w

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-28 Thread Mohammadreza Saveji via Python-list
thank you Mr. Jahangir. you are expert in python. On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:28 AM Cameron Simpson via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 25Dec2024 14:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > >I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) >

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-26 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
of the time, and file both posts from Discourse and posts from python-list into my "python" mail folder. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-26 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/25/24 10:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Right. That's exactly what would happen if he'd built Python using > absolute paths to libraries, which is the normal way to do it. And so > the solution is to rebuild Python using absolute paths to libraries. You're right. De

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-26 Thread dn via Python-list
On 25/12/24 23:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list wrote: Hey all, I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) these last times. I think that it definitely lacks some of the joys of the mailing list: 1/ Categories The discussion has fixed categories. No

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 14:57, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: > > On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list > > wrote: > >> It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/25/24 8:55 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > This is Python related, but > it's not necessarily python's fault per se. It's also a good reminder to use venv. Then there's no way of activating your custom python with its custom sqlite3 library unless you explicitly ac

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list > wrote: >> It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: >> >> 1) "cnf" is using OS python >> 2) os "r

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: > > 1) "cnf" is using OS python > 2) os "root" python > 3) using **my** local non-root library Yes. And YOU were the one wh

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 25.12.24 12:05, aotto1968 wrote: I get angry… next python error… 1) The OpenSUSE command "cnf" checks if a special package feature is installed. 2) I recently compiled **my** SQLite3 library specifically tailored to **my** requirement and installed it in **my** SQLite3 project

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
I get angry… next python error… 1) The OpenSUSE command "cnf" checks if a special package feature is installed. 2) I recently compiled **my** SQLite3 library specifically tailored to **my** requirement and installed it in **my** SQLite3 project directory and never changed th

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-25 Thread Schimon Jehudah via Python-list
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:52:23 +0400 Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list wrote: > Hey all, > > I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) > these last times. > > I think that it definitely lacks some of the joys of the mailing list: > >

Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-25 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list
out <https://compileralchemy.github.io/> | blog <https://www.pythonkitchen.com> github <https://github.com/Abdur-RahmaanJ> Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-17 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/16/24 12:08 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > If I read the answers I come to the conclusion that the "supporters" at > python doesn't ever understand the problem. Sorry you feel that way. Various people gave the best advice they could based on what you had prov

[RELEASE] Python 3.14.0 alpha 3 is out

2024-12-17 Thread Hugo van Kemenade via Python-list
O Alpha 3, O Alpha 3, how lovely are your branches! https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140a3/ This is an early developer preview of Python 3.14. Python 3.14 is still in development. This release, 3.14.0a3, is the third of seven planned alpha releases. Alpha releases are intended

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-16 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-12-16, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > If I read the answers I come to the conclusion that the "supporters" > at python doesn't ever understand the problem. You should definitely demand to speak to the manager and request your money back. -- Grant -- ht

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-16 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-12-16 08:08:46 +0100, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > On 13.12.24 11:36, aotto1968 wrote: > > it's a shame... > > almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some > > configuration error because apparently a __private__ python

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-16 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 13.12.24 11:36, aotto1968 wrote: it's a shame... almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation __isn't__ properly "understood". -> I think after ~30 years *python*

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/14/24 10:31 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > The CORE problem is that python3 works well in *my* environment but the > installation is done as root and root does not use *my* environment. > > the mono build search for a working python3 and find *my* > > HOME/ext/x86

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 at 06:05, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > The CORE problem is that python3 works well in *my* environment but the > installation is done as root and root does not use *my* environment. > So, it's an environment problem, NOT a Python problem. You messed up you

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 14.12.24 10:56, Peter J. Holzer wrote: On 2024-12-13 11:36:01 +0100, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: it's a shame... almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation __isn't__

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/14/24 2:56 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: > So it might be because it's in a different directory ("HOME/ext/..." is > a relative path. That will not work in a different directory. Also > "HOME" is a strange choice for a directory name. Did

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/13/24 1:56 PM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > the problem is *not* to setup an environment variable, the problem is that > python is *not* > able to setup the *python* environment by it self. You're mistaken in this case. Nothing you've posted indicates the problem

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-12-13 11:36:01 +0100, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > it's a shame... > almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some > configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation > __isn't__ properly "understood"

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-13 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 13.12.24 19:24, Barry wrote: On 13 Dec 2024, at 15:54, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: HOME/ext/x86_64-suse-linux-gnu/debug/bin/python3: error while loading shared libraries: libpython3.12d.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory This is a debug build

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-13 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 13 Dec 2024, at 15:54, aotto1968 via Python-list > wrote: > > HOME/ext/x86_64-suse-linux-gnu/debug/bin/python3: error while loading shared > libraries: libpython3.12d.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such > file or directory This is a debug b

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-13 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 13.12.24 11:44, aotto1968 wrote: On 13.12.24 11:36, aotto1968 wrote: it's a shame... almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation __isn't__ properly "understood"

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-13 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 13.12.24 11:36, aotto1968 wrote: it's a shame... almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation __isn't__ properly "understood". -> I think after ~30 years *python*

it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-13 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
it's a shame... almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation __isn't__ properly "understood". -> I think after ~30 years *python* should be able to handle a shared-l

Re: How to catch a fatal error in Python 2.7?

2024-12-09 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/9/24 12:19 PM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote: > Hello, > > The fatal error exits the program with a code -1 while referencing the > memory address involved and nothing else. > > How to catch it in Python 2.7? Does the problem occur with Python 3.x? At this date,

How to catch a fatal error in Python 2.7?

2024-12-09 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
Hello, The fatal error exits the program with a code -1 while referencing the memory address involved and nothing else. How to catch it in Python 2.7? PS: please not I am not talking about exceptions but an error resulting from the disconnection of my bluetooth microphone abruptly and leading

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.13.1, 3.12.8, 3.11.11, 3.10.16 and 3.9.21 are now available

2024-12-03 Thread Jason Friedman via Python-list
🙏 On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 5:06 PM Thomas Wouters via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > Another big release day! Python 3.13.1 and 3.12.8 were regularly scheduled > releases, but they do contain a few security fixes. That makes it a nice > time to release the se

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.1, 3.12.8, 3.11.11, 3.10.16 and 3.9.21 are now available

2024-12-03 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
Another big release day! Python 3.13.1 and 3.12.8 were regularly scheduled releases, but they do contain a few security fixes. That makes it a nice time to release the security-fix-only versions too, so everything is as secure as we can make it. <https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-13-1-3-12-

How to break while loop based on events raised in a thread (Python 2.7)

2024-11-27 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
ow I perform multiple checks at each if or while statement, but is there a IO async based method that breaks out of the loop when the event is raised in the thread? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.14.0 alpha 2 is out

2024-11-19 Thread Hugo van Kemenade via Python-list
Alpha 2? But Alpha 1 only just came out! https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140a2/ This is an early developer preview of Python 3.14 Major new features of the 3.14 series, compared to 3.13: Python 3.14 is still in development. This release, 3.14.0a2 is the second of seven planned

ANN: eGenix PyRun - One file Python Runtime 2.6.0

2024-11-14 Thread eGenix Team via Python-list
*ANNOUNCING* eGenix PyRun - One file Python Runtime Version 2.6.0 Python runtime taking up just 4-6MB on disk This announcement is also available on our web-site for online reading: https://www.egenix.com/company/news/eGenix-PyRun-2.6.0-GA.html

Re: Two aces up Python's sleeve (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-11-08 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 11/8/2024 2:09 PM, dn via Python-list wrote: On 8/11/24 14:40, Mild Shock via Python-list wrote: Well you can use your Browser, since JavaScript understand post and pre increment: Question: are we talking Python or JavaScript? So we have x ++ equals in Python: Trying to find a word

Re: Two aces up Python's sleeve (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-11-08 Thread dn via Python-list
On 8/11/24 14:40, Mild Shock via Python-list wrote: Well you can use your Browser, since JavaScript understand post and pre increment: Question: are we talking Python or JavaScript? So we have x ++ equals in Python: Trying to find a word-for-word translation serves as badly in computer

Re: Two aces up Python's sleeve (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-11-08 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
Well you can use your Browser, since JavaScript understand post and pre increment: > x = 5 5 > x ++ 5 > x = 5 5 > ++ x 6 So we have x ++ equals in Python: x + = 1 x - 1 And ++ x equals in Python: x += 1 x But I don't know how to combine an assignment and a

Re: Two python issues

2024-11-06 Thread Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list
On 05/11/2024 15.48, Raymond Boute wrote: L.S., Python seem to suffer from a few poor design decisions regarding strings and lists that affect the elegance of the language. (a) An error-prone "feature" is returning -1 if a substring is not found by "find", since -1 cur

Re: Two python issues

2024-11-06 Thread Roel Schroeven via Python-list
Op 5/11/2024 om 15:48 schreef Raymond Boute via Python-list: L.S., Python seem to suffer from a few poor design decisions regarding strings and lists that affect the elegance of the language. (a) An error-prone "feature" is returning -1 if a substring is not found by "

Re: Two python issues

2024-11-05 Thread dn via Python-list
On 6/11/24 10:08, Jason Friedman via Python-list wrote: (a) An error-prone "feature" is returning -1 if a substring is not found by "find", since -1 currently refers to the last item. An example: >>> s = 'qwertyuiop' >>> s[s.find('r&#x

Re: Two python issues

2024-11-05 Thread Jason Friedman via Python-list
ld be > len(s) - 1 (no laziness!). > I'm not sure if this answers your objection but the note in the documentation (https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#str.find) says: The find() method should be used only if you need to know the position of sub. I think the use case above is a little bit different. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Two python issues

2024-11-05 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 05Nov2024 15:48, Raymond Boute wrote: Python seem to suffer from a few poor design decisions regarding strings and lists that affect the elegance of the language. (a) An error-prone "feature" is returning -1 if a substring is not found by "find", since -1 currently ref

Two python issues

2024-11-05 Thread Raymond Boute via Python-list
L.S., Python seem to suffer from a few poor design decisions regarding strings and lists that affect the elegance of the language. (a) An error-prone "feature" is returning -1 if a substring is not found by "find", since -1 currently refers to the last item. An example:

ANN: PyDDF Python Herbst Sprint 2024

2024-10-31 Thread eGenix Team via Python-list
/This announcement is in German since it targets a local user group//meeting in Düsseldorf, Germany/ Ankündigung Python Meeting Herbst Sprint 2024 <https://www.meetup.com/python-meeting-dusseldorf/events/303528848/> in Düsseldorf <http://www.duesseldorf.de/> Samstag, 09.11

Re: learning Python

2024-10-29 Thread rbowman via Python-list
meshes with your own learning style. It isn't a beginners tutorial but at some point 'Python Distilled' is helpful. https://www.dabeaz.com/python-distilled/ Usual disclaimer: i don't know Beazley and am not getting any kickback. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: learning Python

2024-10-29 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 10/27/24 16:51, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: Greetings There are mountains of books out there. Any suggestions for documents for a just learning how to program and starting with Python (3)? Preference to a tool where I would be learning by doing - - - that works well for me. TIA

Call for Participation: Python devroom @ FOSDEM 2025

2024-10-28 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg via Python-list
Call for Participation We are happy to announce that we will again be running a*Python devroom at FOSDEM 2025*. This year's edition will be exclusively in-person, and take place on February 1 and 2, with the Python devroom being held on Sunday, February 2. If you haven’t heard

Re: learning Python

2024-10-27 Thread dn via Python-list
On 28/10/24 11:51, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: Greetings There are mountains of books out there. Any suggestions for documents for a just learning how to program and starting with Python (3)? Preference to a tool where I would be learning by doing - - - that works well for me

learning Python

2024-10-27 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
Greetings There are mountains of books out there. Any suggestions for documents for a just learning how to program and starting with Python (3)? Preference to a tool where I would be learning by doing - - - that works well for me. TIA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.14.0 alpha 1 is now available

2024-10-16 Thread Hugo van Kemenade via Python-list
It's now time for a new alpha of a new version of Python! https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140a1/ **This is an early developer preview of Python 3.14** # Major new features of the 3.14 series, compared to 3.13 Python 3.14 is still in development. This release, 3.14.0a1 i

Re: [Tutor] How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-10-11 Thread Dan Ciprus (dciprus) via Python-list
n T, E Something along those lines. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- Dan Ciprus [ curl -L http://git.io/unix ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0 (final) released

2024-10-07 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
After all the shenanigans two weeks ago – everyone discovering nasty little problems in release candidate 2 – the last week was suspiciously quiet, and therefore I can finally say: <https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-13-0-final-has-been-released/66972#p-196505-python-3130-is-now-availabl

Re: [Tutor] How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-10-03 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
reexisting Event may be supplied. Return a 2-tuple of `(T,E)`. ''' if E is None: E = Event() T = Thread(target=target, args=[E, *a], kwargs=kw) return T, E Something along those lines. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Tutor] How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-10-03 Thread Dan Ciprus (dciprus) via Python-list
I'd be interested too :-). On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 03:34:05AM GMT, marc nicole via Python-list wrote: Could you show a python code example of this? On Thu, 26 Sept 2024, 03:08 Cameron Simpson, wrote: On 25Sep2024 22:56, marc nicole wrote: >How to create a per-thread event in Py

Re: Python crash together with threads

2024-10-03 Thread Left Right via Python-list
> whereas I am quite sure that program flows do not overlap. You can never be sure of this in Python. Virtually all objects in Python are allocated on heap, so instantiating integers, doing simple arithmetic etc. -- all of this requires synchronization because it will allocate memory for a sha

Re: Python crash together with threads

2024-10-02 Thread Louis Krupp via Python-list
On 10/2/2024 7:26 AM, Guenther Sohler wrote: My Software project is working fine in most of the cases (www.pythonscad.org) however I am right now isolating a scenario, which makes it crash permanently. It does not happen with Python 3.11.6 (and possibly below), it happens with 3.12 and above

Python crash together with threads

2024-10-02 Thread Guenther Sohler via Python-list
My Software project is working fine in most of the cases (www.pythonscad.org) however I am right now isolating a scenario, which makes it crash permanently. It does not happen with Python 3.11.6 (and possibly below), it happens with 3.12 and above It does not happen when not using Threads

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0rc3 and 3.12.7 released.

2024-10-01 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
This is not the release you’re looking for… (unless you’re looking for 3.12.7.) Because no plan survives contact with reality, instead of the actual Python 3.13.0 release we have a new Python 3.13 release candidate today. Python 3.13.0rc3 rolls back the incremental cyclic garbage collector (GC

ANN: Python Meeting Düsseldorf - 02.10.2024

2024-09-30 Thread eGenix Team via Python-list
/This announcement is in German since it targets a local user group//meeting in Düsseldorf, Germany/ Ankündigung Python Meeting Düsseldorf - Oktober 2024 <https://www.egenix.com/company/news/Python-Meeting-Duesseldorf-2024-10-02> Ein Treffen von Python Enthusiast

Re: How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-26 Thread Left Right via Python-list
y) modify the shared state observed by other threads in such a way that it becomes unusable to other threads. So... if you want to kill a thread, I'm sorry to say this: you will have to bring down the whole process, there's really no other way, and that's not Python-specific, this is

Re: [Tutor] How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-25 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
Could you show a python code example of this? On Thu, 26 Sept 2024, 03:08 Cameron Simpson, wrote: > On 25Sep2024 22:56, marc nicole wrote: > >How to create a per-thread event in Python 2.7? > > Every time you make a Thread, make an Event. Pass it to the thread > worker funct

Re: How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-25 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 25Sep2024 22:56, marc nicole wrote: How to create a per-thread event in Python 2.7? Every time you make a Thread, make an Event. Pass it to the thread worker function and keep it to hand for your use outside the thread. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-25 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
How to create a per-thread event in Python 2.7? On Wed, 25 Sept 2024, 22:47 Cameron Simpson via Python-list, < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 25Sep2024 19:24, marc nicole wrote: > >I want to know how to kill a specific running thread (say by its id) > > > >for

Re: How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-25 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
if it becomes set. You just need a per-thred vent instead of a single Event for all the threads. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-25 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
() event_thread1.set() I know that set() will kill all running threads, but if there was thread2 as well and I want to kill only thread1? Thanks! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ANN: A new version (0.5.3) of python-gnupg has been released.

2024-09-20 Thread Vinay Sajip via Python-list
other points via this group). Enjoy! Cheers Vinay Sajip [1] https://github.com/vsajip/python-gnupg [2] https://pypi.org/project/python-gnupg/0.5.3 [3] https://github.com/vsajip/python-gnupg/issues [4] https://github.com/vsajip/python-gnupg/releases/ [5] python-gnupg - A Python wrapper for

Re: Python 3.8 or later on Debian?

2024-09-19 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 9/18/24 08:49, Ulrich Goebel via Python-list wrote: Hi, Debian Linux seems to love Python 3.7 - that is shown by apt-get list, and it's installed on my Debian Server. But I need at least Python 3.8 Is there a repository which I can give to apt to get Python 3.8 or later? Or do I r

Re: Python 3.8 or later on Debian?

2024-09-18 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 9/18/2024 10:49 AM, Ulrich Goebel via Python-list wrote: Hi, Debian Linux seems to love Python 3.7 - that is shown by apt-get list, and it's installed on my Debian Server. But I need at least Python 3.8 Is there a repository which I can give to apt to get Python 3.8 or later? Or

Re: Python 3.8 or later on Debian?

2024-09-18 Thread dn via Python-list
On 19/09/24 02:49, Ulrich Goebel via Python-list wrote: Hi, Debian Linux seems to love Python 3.7 - that is shown by apt-get list, and it's installed on my Debian Server. But I need at least Python 3.8 Is there a repository which I can give to apt to get Python 3.8 or later? Or do I r

Re: Python 3.8 or later on Debian?

2024-09-18 Thread Alexander Neilson via Python-list
Python 3.7 is part of Buster (Debian old old stable) If you moved to Debian bullseye you would get offered 3.9 (old stable) Currently the stable version (Bookworm) would give you 3.11 I am not aware of anyone maintaining a repo for old Debian versions to get newer Python versions. But I know in

Python 3.8 or later on Debian?

2024-09-18 Thread Ulrich Goebel via Python-list
Hi, Debian Linux seems to love Python 3.7 - that is shown by apt-get list, and it's installed on my Debian Server. But I need at least Python 3.8 Is there a repository which I can give to apt to get Python 3.8 or later? Or do I really have to install and compile these versions manually

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-11 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
case of an exception is completely > unnecessary: the DBMS will take care of that for you. No, it won't. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-10 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2024-09-09, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 10:00:11 - (UTC), Jon Ribbens wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2024-09-09, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-10 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2024-09-10, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > Am Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 08:38:30AM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: >> Ok. So we've moved away from "In any DBMS worth its salt, rollback is >> something that happens automatically" > > Nope. The original pos

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-10 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 08:38:30AM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: > Ok. So we've moved away from "In any DBMS worth its salt, rollback is > something that happens automatically" Nope. The original post asked something entirely different. > and now you'

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-10 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
eiro wrote: >>>>> The database only needs to commit when it is explicitly told. >>>>> Anything less -- no commit. >>>> >>>> So the Python code is half-way through a transaction when it throws a >>>> (non-database-related) exception

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