On Feb 24, 7:04 pm, Thomas Bartkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most user apps. require 95% of coding effort to provide a usable user
> interface and 5% effort on the algorithmic meat. The "afterwards" you
> allude to. So why do we still endure so much programming effort on the
> unimportant part
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:03:43 -0800, Andy Dingley wrote:
> GUI-based" is fairly unimportant as it's just how you build your
> programs, not what they do afterwards
Most user apps. require 95% of coding effort to provide a usable user
interface and 5% effort on the algorithmic meat. The "afterwar
On Feb 18, 7:35 pm, Dave Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2007-02-16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
> > through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
>
> You might take a look athttp://dabodev.com
>
>
Mark Morss a écrit :
> On Feb 16, 4:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
>> am unable to deciced.
>>
>> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
>> through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
>>
>
>
> It's now the *3rd* time I mention Glade, wxGlade and QTDesigner in this
> thread. Hendrik, I know *exactly* what Stef is talking about - been
> here, done that.
Doubt, that know what I'm talking about ...
... Glade, wxGlade, QTDesigner are not my choice ;-)
... at the moment I tend towards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> On Feb 16, 4:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
>>am unable to deciced.
>>
>>i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
>>through with GUI based programming language like VB.ne
Hendrik van Rooyen a écrit :
> "Bruno Desthuilliers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Stef Mientki a écrit :
>>(snip)
>>
>>>I've been using Python for just 2 months, and didn't try any graphical
>>>design,
>>
>>So how can you comment on GUI programming with Python ?
>
>
> I think we have a
On 19 Feb 2007 09:56:06 -0800, Mark Morss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good grief. I suppose it is Microsoft to whom we owe the idea that
> there could be such a thing as a "GUI based" programming language.
Who do we blame for the idea that everyone in the world should be able
to express themsel
On Feb 16, 4:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
> am unable to deciced.
>
> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
> through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
>
> so will you please guide me
On 16 Feb, 21:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language
Why? What is causing you to do this, and what do you need to achieve
by doing it?
> i want to go through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
"GUI-based" is fairly unimportant
Muntasir Azam Khan wrote:
> On Feb 17, 3:22 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
>> am unable to deciced.
>>
>> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
>> through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
On Feb 17, 3:22 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
> am unable to deciced.
>
> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
> through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
>
> so will you please guide me
On Feb 16, 11:12 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "GUI based programming languages" ? What's that ?
LabView
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On Feb 17, 1:34 am, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> - designing the GUI will cost me about 2 .. 3 times as much in Python
Use a design tool like GLADE for PyGTK, wxGlade for wxPython or Komodo
for tkinter. The more of the GUI code you can remove from your
functional code the better. GUI
"Bruno Desthuilliers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Stef Mientki a écrit :
>(snip)
>> I've been using Python for just 2 months, and didn't try any graphical
>> design,
>
>So how can you comment on GUI programming with Python ?
I think we have a language problem here (no pun intended)
When Stef s
On Feb 16, 4:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
> am unable to deciced.
>
> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
> through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
>
> so will you please guide me
On 2007-02-16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
> through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
You might take a look at http://dabodev.com
Dave Cook
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Stef Mientki schrieb:
>>> - designing the GUI will cost me about 2 .. 3 times as much in Python
>>
>> You mean delphi here I presume?
> No, but if that's your believe ..
I'm sorry, that was a misreading of mine.
> Some examples:
> - Creating a treeview (like in the M$ explorer), with full edit
>
On 2/17/07, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some examples:
> - Creating a treeview (like in the M$ explorer), with full edit capabilities
> and full drag & drop
> facilities: Delphi takes about 40 lines of code (most of them even ^C ^V).
> - Creating a graphical overview of relations be
Stef Mientki a écrit :
(snip)
> I'm not an (educated) programmer, so I don't always use the right terms :-(
> If I look at a well established program like DIA,
> and see that it still can't repaint it's screen always correctly, ...
I suppose you're talking about the Diagram drawing program Dia. If
Stef Mientki wrote:
> Some examples:
> - Creating a treeview (like in the M$ explorer), with full edit
> capabilities and full drag & drop facilities: Delphi takes about
> 40 lines of code (most of them even ^C ^V). - Creating a graphical
> overview of relations between database tables, which can
En Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:12:07 -0300, Stef Mientki
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
>> I would love to see:
>> - a comparison between wx and gtk (QT doesn't have a very inviting
>> license ;-)
> I just found this:
> http://www.wxwidgets.org/wiki/index.php/WxWidgets_Compared_To_Other_Toolkits
But ke
> I would love to see:
> - a comparison between wx and gtk (QT doesn't have a very inviting
> license ;-)
I just found this:
http://www.wxwidgets.org/wiki/index.php/WxWidgets_Compared_To_Other_Toolkits
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>> - designing the GUI will cost me about 2 .. 3 times as much in Python
>
> You mean delphi here I presume?
No, but if that's your believe ..
Some examples:
- Creating a treeview (like in the M$ explorer), with full edit capabilities
and full drag & drop
facilities: Delphi takes about 40 lines o
Stef Mientki a écrit :
> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>
>> Stef Mientki a écrit :
>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
am unable to deciced.
i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
t
On Feb 17, 1:35 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But I've done extensive, cross-platform development with Qt. And can
> assert that it is unmatched in productivity and feature richness,
> especially when combined with python. And certainly beat VB, and most
> probably even delphi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
> am unable to deciced.
>
> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
> through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
>
By 'GUI based programming language' I think tha
In your situation consider C# too.
If you like python then try IronPython for .NET.
I think that C++ is not ideal for you.
P.S.: VB6 is NOT a real OOP language.
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> The final goal of programming language is (in most cases)
> meant to create functional things,
> that can assist people to perform their tasks.
> The UI of that resulting thing should be optimal adapted to the final
> audience (and task).
> My audience is most comfortable with a intuitive GUI.
>
Peter Decker wrote:
> On 2/16/07, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> In one of the other threads, Dabo was meant as a GUI designer,
>> I tried it yesterday,
>> and although it looks very promising,
>> at the moment this is not a graphical design environment,
>> just a complex (compared t
On 2/16/07, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In one of the other threads, Dabo was meant as a GUI designer,
> I tried it yesterday,
> and although it looks very promising,
> at the moment this is not a graphical design environment,
> just a complex (compared to Delphi) design environment
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Stef Mientki a écrit :
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
>>> am unable to deciced.
>>>
>>> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
>>> through with GUI based programming langu
Bruno Desthuilliers:
> Iftikhar:
> > i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
> > through with GUI based programming language
>
> "GUI based programming languages" ? What's that ?
Maybe a language like Gui4cli :-)
http://users.hol.gr/~dck/g4c/
Bye,
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Stef Mientki a écrit :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
>> am unable to deciced.
>>
>> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
>> through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
>>
>> so will you p
Stef Mientki wrote:
> Although the GUI of Python is not as good as VB,
What is the GUI of a language?
Regards,
Björn
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
> am unable to deciced.
>
> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
> through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
>
> so will you please guide me which GUI based la
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language but i
> am unable to deciced.
>
> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
> through with GUI based programming language
"GUI based programming languages" ? What's that ?
> like V
On 2007-02-16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am VB6 programmer and wants to start new programming language
> but i am unable to deciced.
>
> i have read about Python, Ruby and Visual C++. but i want to go
> through with GUI based programming language like VB.net
>
> so will you p
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