Greetings, anyone using micro python or Jaltek System's pyboard designed
to run it?
http://micropython.org/
Cheers,
marcus
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On 10/9/14 1:52 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Been using emacs for over 20 years and teaching python for 10.
> And getting fed up that my audience looks at me like Rip van Winkle
> each time I start up emacs...
(sigh)
> So trying out Idle...
Good for you! ... and even better for your students.
On 10/9/14 7:21 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
My audience consists of people having linux and windows and macbooks.
Does Idle run on all these?
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On 10/9/14 7:47 AM, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
I believe control-click, but Macs users could say better.
Control-click was the canonical way to do it when right click menus were
introduced in Mac OS itself. Some programs (notably Netscape) supported
them via click-hold before that. And it's
On 6/12/14 11:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
def poplist(L):
done = False
while done==False:
yield L[::-1][:1:]
L = L[::-1][1::][::-1]
if len(L)==0: done=True
Why not just "while L"?
OK, here it is with Chris' excellent adv
On 6/12/14 11:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
Consider this generator variation:
def poplist(L):
done = False
while done==False:
yield L[::-1][:1:]
L = L[::-1][1::][::-1
On 6/12/14 11:55 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
while not done:
Better Python and not bad English, either.
... and taking Marko's good advice, what I think you really wanted:
>>> def poplist(L):
done = False
while not done:
yield L[::-1][:1:]
L
On 6/11/14 10:12 PM, hito koto wrote:
def foo(x):
y = []
while x !=[]:
y.append(x.pop())
return y
Consider this generator variation:
>>> def poplist(L):
done = False
while done==False:
yield L[::-1][:1:]
L = L[::-1][1::]
On 6/11/14 10:12 PM, hito koto wrote:
i want to change this is code:
def foo(x):
y = []
while x !=[]:
y.append(x.pop())
return y
Consider this generator (all kinds of permutations on the idea):
>>> L1
[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
>>> def poplist(L):
while True:
On 6/11/14 8:26 AM, Robert Kern wrote:
Anyways, to your new problem, yes it's possible. Search for "regular
expression intersection" for possible approaches.
I agree, I would not use a decision (decision tree) but would consider
a set of filters from most specific to least specific.
marcus
On 6/10/14 3:41 PM, leo kirotawa wrote:
Guys I'm from Brazil too, and I'm ashamed for this troll.
Don't feed the troll bot.
OTOH, it might be fun to feed it some weird subject|predicate phrases to
see what it does with them.
Bots eat bananas because bouncing on berries becomes beenie baby
On 6/9/14 3:54 PM, Carlos Anselmo Dias wrote:
Hi ...
I'm finishing my messages with this ...
The first time I looked into Python was +- 10 years ago ... and in the
last 10 years I did not spent more than 30 minutes looking at ... but I
like it ... it's easy to read ... even if I'm not familiar
On 6/5/14 12:18 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
No they won't be used in the same niche. Objective C is certainly not
used in the same niche as Python, so why would Swift? I don't expect to
see any major OS X app written completely in Python, nor would I expect
and of the core frameworks to be writte
On 6/5/14 10:39 AM, alister wrote:
{snipped all the mess}
And you have may time been given a link explaining the problems with
posting g=from google groups but deliberately choose to not make your
replys readable.
The problem is that thing look fine in google groups. What helps is
getting to
On 6/4/14 10:02 PM, Sanjay Madhikarmi wrote:
I have already install python 2.7 64bit in my windows 8 machine but
while installing PIL 1.1.7 for python 2.7 it says that "Python 2.7
required which was not found in the registry"
Please help me sort out this problem
... also this one;
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On 6/4/14 10:02 PM, Sanjay Madhikarmi wrote:
I have already install python 2.7 64bit in my windows 8 machine but
while installing PIL 1.1.7 for python 2.7 it says that "Python 2.7
required which was not found in the registry"
... oops, sorry,
also this one:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/
On 6/4/14 10:02 PM, Sanjay Madhikarmi wrote:
I have already install python 2.7 64bit in my windows 8 machine but
while installing PIL 1.1.7 for python 2.7 it says that "Python 2.7
required which was not found in the registry"
Please help me sort out this problem
http://stackoverflow.com/quest
On 6/4/14 5:18 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 6/4/2014 10:53 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
The primary paradigm on this topic locally is that
indents are bad because malformed or mangled code cannot be reformatted
easily (if at all).
Begin solution:':' as the end of a line means 'begi
On 6/3/14 8:14 PM, Deb Wyatt wrote:
Well, I'm glad you find this concept straight-forward.
I guess I'm not as smart as you.
Not at all. I think you misunderstood me. I read the article and I
reviewed it (although brief, I stand by what I said).
To expand a bit, the article is poorly writt
On 6/3/14 8:24 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Deb, do yourself a favor and just trash-can anything from Mark Harris.
Ouch, that hurt.
Did someone not get their coffee this morning?
:-)
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On 6/4/14 9:24 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
Surely your local colleagues realize that Python has been around for
20-odd years now, that indentation-based block structure has been
there since Day One, and that it's not going to change, right?
Yup. Its the primary argument on the side for indenta
On 6/3/14 11:54 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I've been passing code snippets by email and Usenet for 15 years or more,
and I've never had a problem with indentation.
Of course, I've had problems with *other people's code*, because they use
broken tools that break the text they send.
Me too.
On 6/3/14 3:43 PM, Sturla Molden wrote:
Nicholas Cole wrote:
> {snip}
Unfortunately they retained the curly brackets from JS...
The curly braces come from C, and before that B and A/.
(I think others used them too before that, but it escapes me now and I'm
too lazy to google it)
... but
On 6/3/14 1:26 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
From Apple's perspective, there's always platform lock-in. That's good
for them, so it must be good for you, right? :-)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/02/apple_aims_to_speed_up_secure_coding_with_swift_programming_language/
The key to this "Swif
On 6/3/14 12:29 PM, Deb Wyatt wrote:
http://www.spontaneoussymmetry.com/blog/archives/438
Deb in WA, USA
The article is bogged down in unnecessary complications with regard to
mutability (or not) and pass-by reference|value stuff. The author risks
confusing her audience (those who are perh
On 5/28/14 10:22 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
If you want to use python as a shell-glue you can try using system.
>>> from os import system
>>> def ([parms])
>>> blah blah
>>> rc = system("
os.system is cool for quick and dirty calls to an external command. But
for serious work
On 5/29/14 11:44 AM, Paul Rudin wrote:
Terry Reedy writes:
I am curious how many of the editors people have been recommending have all of
the following Idle features, that I use constantly.
1. Run code in the editor with a single keypress.
2. Display output and traceback in a window that lets
On 5/28/14 12:32 PM, funky wrote:
import pygame <== a very good place to start
import random
import time
import sys
http://www.pygame.org/wiki/tutorials
My hourly rate is $295.00 /hour, w/2hour minimum, happy to send you a
contract of engagement and a copy of my document of unde
On 5/28/14 2:44 AM, onlyvin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, January 19, 2001 1:22:23 AM UTC+5:30, Rolander, Dan wrote:
What is the best way to run a python script from within the interpreter?
What command should I use?
try using execfile(filename)
What type of script? python? bash? tcl?
On 5/28/14 5:43 AM, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
I am currently using python 3.3
With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.
Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
I tend to agree with Chris & Steven on this... a good gnu/linux desktop
is the best IDE (d
On 5/22/14 1:54 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote:
I am working on a hobby project - a Bookmarker{snip}
hi, no django is not really the correct tool-set. Django is for
server-side content management, but who knows, you might come up with a
great hack (I don't want to discourage you). But, a straight p
On 5/22/14 5:54 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Figure some of you folks might enjoy this. Look how horrible Python
performance is!
http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Best-of-Email-Brains,-Security,-Robots,-and-a-Risky-Click.aspx
> From TDWTF:
Most of the interesting physics analysis code here is bas
On 5/22/14 10:28 AM, wo...@4amlunch.net wrote:
On Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:52:41 PM UTC-4, Ben Finney wrote:
pid = daemon.pidlockfile.TimeoutPIDLockFile(
"/tmp/dizazzo-daemontest.pid", 10)
Has pidlockfile been removed? (1.6)
-brian
"Have you released the inertial dampener?
On 5/21/14 8:46 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
# from 1 import app as application # Doesn't work with a numeric name
application = __import__("1").app
Is there a way to tell Python that, syntactically, this thing that
looks like a number is really a name? Or am I just being dumb?
(Don't hold back on
On 5/15/14 3:45 PM, pleasedonts...@isp.com wrote:
Please take a deeper look at my second post. Try the same but this time
set the precision to 4000, 8000 or whatever you need to convince yourself
there's no error propagation, yet there's a 4 in the middle that shouldn't
be there. See for yours
On 5/13/14 1:18 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
instead of yelling "LALALALALA America is everything" and
pretending that ASCII, or Latin-1, or something, is all you need.
... it isn't?
LALALALALALALALALA :))
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On 5/13/14 12:54 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I don't think that this idea is original to you :-) I'm pretty sure many
people have come up with the idea of a decorator that just announces when
it runs and when it is called. I know I have :-)
oh, absolutely... every piece of that thing comes f
On 5/13/14 12:48 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 00:33:47 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote:
there has to be a value add for scientists to move away from R or
Matlab, or from FORTRAN. Why go to the trouble? FORTRAN works well (its
fast too), and there are zillions of lines of
On 5/13/14 12:10 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
I think the most helpful way forward is to accept two things:
a. Unicode is a headache
b. No-unicode is a non-option
QOTW(so far...)
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On 5/12/14 3:44 AM, Alain Ketterlin wrote:
multiple-dispatch (i.e., dynamically testing types, converting to a
common type, and selecting the version of sqrt to use). That's probably
more than the time it takes to actually perform the computation, a bit
like what happens with x+y on integers with
hi folks, I've come up with a simple snippet that intends to explain the
concept of decorations without an article (for on app help), while being
succinct and concise, while not being overly complicated.
Does this work? I have another one coming for args, similar, if this
works... comments
On 5/12/14 10:16 AM, xs.nep...@gmail.com wrote:
> {nothing}
huh?
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On 5/12/14 8:18 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Unicode is hard, not because Unicode is hard, but because of legacy
problems.
Yes. To put a finer point on that, Unicode (which is only a
specification constantly being improved upon) is harder to implement
when it hasn't been on the design board fr
On 5/11/14 11:10 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
On 5/11/14 10:10 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
On 05/11/2014 02:54 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
>julia> sin(BigFloat(π/4))
> 7.0710678118654750275194295621751674626154323953749278952436611913748
> 20215180412e-01 with 256 bits of precision
On 5/11/14 10:10 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
On 05/11/2014 02:54 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
>julia> sin(BigFloat(π/4))
> 7.0710678118654750275194295621751674626154323953749278952436611913748
> 20215180412e-01 with 256 bits of precision
That answer doesn't seem to come anywhere
On 5/11/14 1:59 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
julia> prec=524288
524288
julia> with_bigfloat_precision(prec) do
println(atan(BigFloat(1)/5)*16 - atan(BigFloat(1)/239)*4)
end
Would it be quicker (and no less accurate) to represent pi as
atan(BigFloat(1))*4 instead? That's how I or
On 5/11/14 12:05 PM, Alain Ketterlin wrote:
Julia is Matlab and R, Python, Lisp, Scheme; all rolled together on
steroids. Its amazing as a dynamic language, and its fast, like
lightning fast as well as multiprocessing (parallel processing) at its
core. Its astounding, really.
Hmmm...
Its num
On 5/10/14 6:35 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Instead, what we have is a world in which Python can be used to write
closed-source software, LibreOffice Writer will happily open a
Microsoft Word document, Samba communicates with Windows computers,
libc can be linked to non-free binaries, etc, etc, et
On 5/10/14 8:42 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
Ars Technica article a couple of days ago, about Fortran, and what is
likely to replace it:
http://tinyurl.com/mr54p96
uhm, yeeah!
'Julia' is going to give everyone a not so small run for competition;
justifiably so, not just against FORTRAN.
Julia is
On 5/10/14 11:16 PM, Nelson Crosby wrote:
I also believe in this more 'BSD-like' view, but from a business
point of view. No one is going to invest in a business that can't
guarantee against piracy, and such a business is much less likely
to receive profit (see Ardour).
Don't get me wrong - I lo
On 5/10/14 12:07 PM, esaw...@gmail.com wrote:
4. In the long run, would it be better to use UNIX instead of Windows, if
I were to use Python for all of my research?
I concur with Chris and Stefan. The *nix model is faster, cleaner, and
more secure. I prefer gnu/linux, but mac os/x is al
On 5/9/14 10:05 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Likewise python's name-spaces go almost all the way to first-classing variables
but not quite as Marko discovered when locals() looks like a dict, waddles like
a dict but does not quack like a dict.
QOTWeekEnd
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On 5/9/14 8:34 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Nobody seems to complain about using the term "assigment" in relation to
Python, despite it meaning something a bit different from what it means
in some other languages, so I don't see anything wrong with using the
term "variable" with the above definitio
On 5/9/14 7:58 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
{snip} at which
point we're now talking about a concrete, physical description of the
process, not an abstraction. There really is a bottom-most turtle that
holds up all the rest.)
hi Steven, heh... yup, there really is a bottom-most turtle (and who
c
On 5/7/14 8:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
In almost every other language you know A and B each "contain" by
reference (and almost always by static type) macTruck. But NOT python.
Nor Javascript, Ruby, Perl, PHP, Lua, or (I think) Lisp or Java. To
mention only a few.
I think it is easy to exagg
On 5/7/14 8:31 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
And we must never forget that CPython's underpinnings, uhm C, uses
variables, C ones... (never mind)
Be careful of this one. It's utterly irrelevant to your point, and may
be distractin
On 5/7/14 8:08 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
In Python, all values *are* objects. It isn't a matter of choosing one or
the other. The value 1 is an object, not a native (low-level, unboxed) 32
or 64 bit int.
Unlike C# or Java, there is no direct language facility to box native
values into objects o
On 5/7/14 4:15 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
That's why I always try to say “Python doesn't have variables the way
you might know from many other languages”,
Please elaborate. To me, Python variables are like variables in all
programming languages I know. Python currently does not allow me to
obtai
Greetings, thanks to the folks who worked on the right click context
menu in IDLE for python 3.4!
Nice job.
marcus
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On 5/7/14 1:19 PM, Ned Deily wrote:
If the Python build (the "make sharedmods" build step) can't
successfully build the _tkinter extension module (because, for example,
it couldn't find the Tk headers or libraries), the build step already
reports that it could not build _tkinter.
hi Ned, wher
On 5/7/14 10:48 AM, Jerry Hill wrote:
I think it's rather silly for someone to insist that python doesn't have
variables. On the other hand, I think it can be useful to point out
that python variable aren't like C variables, and that thinking of
python variables as having two parts -- names and
On 5/6/14 6:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Is there really a fundamental
difference between languages in which that is equally valid syntax and
does exactly the same thing?
No. And from that standpoint, python has variables. I know, because I
thought about python's 'variables' as variables for
hi folks, I got bit again trying to build python3.4 from sources (mea
culpa, of course). The symptom is everything (except ensure pip) builds,
installs, and runs fine with the small baby problem that IDLE will not
run (-tkinter isn't even there) even though tcl/tk 8.5 is loaded and
running.
On 5/6/14 3:31 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 5/6/14 12:42 AM, Gary Herron wrote:
This gets confusing, but in fact the most accurate answer is that Python
does not have "variables", so there is no such thing as passing
"variables" by reference or any other method. Python *does* have names
bound t
On 5/6/14 2:27 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
will u please send me the code that you write. actually i'm trying to
learn use of google search api but i'm not getting so please mail me the
code.
Sure but it's USD 1,000 cash or cheque made payable to the Python
Software Foundation, backed up by banke
On 5/1/14 10:53 AM, William Ray Wing wrote:
I’m surprised no one has jumped in to defend/tout the Dietzgen slide rules
(which I always thought were the ultimate). Mine (their Vector Log Log) is
one of their Microglide series that had teflon rails inserted in the body
and is still totally stick-f
On 5/1/14 8:47 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:54:21 -0500, Mark H Harris
declaimed the following:
My high school '74 was the last class to learn the slide-rule using
the Sterling (we paid a deposit to use the school's).
Since calculators had
On 5/1/14 9:06 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
The N4-ES and the N4-T (mine) are essentially the same rule. The N4-ES
on the site is yellow (mine is white) and the site rule indicates Picket
& Eckel Inc. (that's where the E comes from) Also the the ES states
Chicage Ill USA where the T states Made
On 5/1/14 11:02 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
file hello.py===
def Hello(parms list):
whatever
whatever
From IDLE:
import hello
hello.Hello([1, 2, 3, 4])
Sorry, almost forgot, if you 'run' the module hello.py (with the IDLE
run dropdown) then
On 5/1/14 10:34 AM, s71murfy wrote:
I am trying to run the simple helloworld script from the IDLE shell. I want to
pass it arguments. Please can you give me the syntax to do it?
There are several ways to do this, depending on your preferences and
goals. Is the helloworld script the tk ver
On 4/30/14 10:56 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
There is a nice Javascript simulation of the N4-ES here:
http://www.antiquark.com/sliderule/sim/n4es/virtual-n4es.html
Thank you!
The N4-ES and the N4-T (mine) are essentially the same rule. The N4-ES
on the site is yellow (mine is white) and the site
On 4/30/14 7:02 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
Sterling? Snort. K&E was the way to go.
Absolutely, snort. I still have my K&E (Keuffel & Esser Co. N.Y.);
made of wood... (when ships were wood, and men were steel, and sheep ran
scared) ... to get to the S L T scales I have to pull the slid
On 4/30/14 8:50 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 01 May 2014 01:49:25 +0100, Steve Simmons wrote:
On 30/04/2014 23:49, Fabio Zadrozny
wrote:
And that's about where I stopped reading.
Post as quote:
I'm trying to set up a new dev environme
On 4/30/14 8:28 AM, Chris Hinsley wrote:
On 2013-02-15 05:05:27 +, Rick Johnson said:
First of all your naming conventions suck. You've used the "interface"
style for every function in this game so i can't /easily/ eyeball
parse the /real/ interface functions from the helper functions -- an
On 4/30/14 9:57 AM, varun...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know how to do that stuff in python.
Always a good time to learn.
Let the database do the work for you; try not to re-invent the
relational database wheel. Access the database via python-sql:
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-sql
On 4/29/14 3:16 PM, Adam Funk wrote:
"A man pitches his tent, walks 1 km south, walks 1 km east, kills a
bear, & walks 1 km north, where he's back at his tent. What color is
the bear?" ;-)
Who manufactured the tent?
marcus
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On 4/29/14 1:53 PM, Brent S. Elmer Ph.D. wrote:
I would rather have a way to have the build and
install process install to the micro level.
I agree.
On the other hand, is there really a special need to thoroughly test
against a micro level.
I have the latest 2.6, 2.7, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4 ... the
On 4/29/14 1:53 PM, Brent S. Elmer Ph.D. wrote:
Yes, I already use --prefix to build to a different path. I guess that
is what I need to do but I would rather have a way to have the build and
install process install to the micro level.
example only,
Use --prefix /usr/local/2.7.6/
Use --prefi
On 4/23/14 1:08 PM, Reginaldo wrote:
I have a GUI app that is written using wx. When I run it on CentOS 6.5, the
following error messages are displayed and the app closes:
Only fails on CentOS ?
I use an idle thread in my application.
Is your CentOS launching idle with -n switch ?
On 4/17/14 12:58 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
Seems the soap list is a little quiet and the moderator is mia regardless.
Are there many soap users on this list familiar with Spyne or does anyone
know the most optimal place to post such questions?
Read first.
You can try :
> http://spyne.io/
On 4/17/14 11:20 AM, haiticare2...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a Raspberry Pi board with a wireless usb modem on it.
I wish to be able to message 2-way with the board from
across the internet, without having to open ports on the wireless modem. Is
there
a way to do this? I have been looking at udp
On 4/15/14 4:02 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
https://python3wos.appspot.com/
That's what I thought. Its really about getting the super-power wall
fixed up; everything else will fall in place. I do think that Guido
might be positioning himself as an enabler, of sorts. I can see
extending through
On 4/15/14 2:37 PM, Novocastrian_Nomad wrote:
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:32:14 PM UTC-6, Mark H. Harris wrote:
Can you site the announcement?
Thanks
http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/76d43e52d978?utm_content=buffer55d59&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buff
On 4/14/14 2:32 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
On a related note, Guido announced today that there will be no 2.8 &
that the eol for 2.7 will be 2020.
Can you site the announcement?
Thanks
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On 4/11/14 11:02 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
It's almost now debatable whether you were metabaiting Steven into
telling you off for trolling the resident troll...
QOTW
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On 4/10/14 8:29 PM, Wesley wrote:
Does python has any good obfuscate?
Others have answered this well, but I thought I would give you
another opinion, perhaps more direct.
Obfuscation (hiding) of your source is *bad*, usually done for one
of the following reasons:
1) Boss is pa
On 4/10/14 10:54 AM, Lalitha Prasad K wrote:
Dear List
Recently I was requested to teach python to a group of students of GIS
(Geographic Information Systems).
Adults? ... what age ranges?
Their knowledge of programming is
zero. The objective is to enable them to write plug-ins for GIS s
On 4/10/14 3:52 PM, pete.bee@gmail.com wrote:
Do you get paid to be a jerk, or is it just for yuks? If the latter, you're
not funny.
Mark is the c.l.python resident margin police. Think of him as a welcome
committee with an attitude.
:)
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On 4/9/14 12:52 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
People with a fear of threaded programming almost certainly never grew
up on OS/2. :) I learned about GUI programming thus: Write your
synchronous message handler to guarantee that it will return in an
absolute maximum of 0.1s, preferably a lot less. If
On 4/8/14 3:09 PM, Grawburg wrote:
I have a N/O pushbutton that I want to "latch" a value to a variable when it's
been pressed.
I need button_value to become '1' when the button is pressed and to remain '1'
until ...
What do I use to 'latch' button_value?
Philosophically speaking buttons
On 4/8/14 2:07 AM, James Brewer wrote:
I don't think that I have anything to learn
from my co-workers, which saddens me because I really like to learn and
I know that I have a lot of learning to do.
Give it time. The first thing that must happen is relationship
building. Initially its about
On 4/6/14 12:31 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
I think python wins because it (usually) lets people do their thing
(includes but not limited to CS-research)
and gets out of the way. To say therefore that it is irrelevant to the
research is a strange inversion of its advantages.
I think so too. I f
On 4/4/14 4:53 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Python is not a computer-science-ey language.
Really ?
> It is of little or no
> interest to computer scientists involved in the mathematics of
> computation,
... you mean no one except me, then ?
> or compiler-theory, or type-theory, or any o
On 4/4/14 4:53 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Python is not a computer-science-ey language.
Really ?
It is of little or no
interest to computer scientists involved in the mathematics of
computation,
... you mean no one except me, then ?
or compiler-theory, or type-theory, or any of the
On 4/4/14 4:53 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Python is not a computer-science-ey language.
Every programming language is interesting from a comp sci standpoint.
Some are more useful for research; python is one of those.
For what reasons do you disagree?
marcus
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On 4/5/14 1:01 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
Mark H Harris writes:
On 4/5/14 12:02 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
A fork is undesirable because it fragments the community. I don't
think "fear" or "panic" are the right words for it.
Yes. I get that.
So, you get that “fear
On 4/5/14 12:02 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
A fork is undesirable because it fragments the community. I don't
think "fear" or "panic" are the right words for it.
Yes. I get that. I think what is desired (just thinking out loud
from my own vantage point) is a unified community, but also a foundat
On 4/4/14 11:49 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
Its has always seemed to me that Java or C++ would be better suited to
creating python. I wonder will C always be the standard canonical PSF python
interpreter base language? Has the C python
On 4/4/14 11:40 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
If it's too much work to make the changes to move something from
Python 2.7 to Python 3.3, it's *definitely* too much work to rewrite
it in a different language.
Totally, no doubt.
There would have to be some strong other
reason for shifting, espec
On 4/4/14 10:42 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Computer-hobbyists and computer-professionals are quite different sets of
people.
I know its just a gut feel, and I know there are a lot of lurkers
here too, but it seems that there are *way* more folks from the
professional camp on comp.lang.python
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