oprofile and perf(1), and I guess the Python interpreter would
introduce some noise there.
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re data
has arrived
So the buffer is a circular buffer of octets, which you chop up
by parsing it so you can see it as a circular buffer of complete and
incomplete entries or messages.
At that level, yes, the line-oriented data and the binary data would
coexist in the same application buffer.
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me, with certain
UDP-based protocols which cannot pack multiple application-level
messages into one datagram.
Although perhaps you tend not to use Python in those situations.
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o the circular buffer might fill with
> undeliverable headers)
Those messages should be delivered to the receiving socket, in the
sense that they are sanity-checked, used to wake up the application
and mark the socket readable, fill up one entry in the read queue and
so on ...
Of course your system at work may have the rights to be more
restrictive, if it's special-purpose.
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it should stop looking for more data and start /acting/ on
it.
And yes, you can't do much with a TCP soocket without setting up these
rules. It's important to see that noone does it /for/ you.
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ng the latter. Designing a
limited /data/ language is often a good idea; designing something
which eventually will need to become Turing-complete is not.
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s take a subexpression out and give it a new
> name:
And it's not just Python: programming languages have been designed
that way since at least the 1960s. People are used to analysing
expressions inside and out according to rules common for almost all
languages.
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trivial though,
so try to do without such things at first. It's not obvious that you
should need an account for an experimental chat, anyway.
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ter as a "blackbox" then there really isn't anything you
> can do here except catch the exception and attempt to reconnect.
Yes. Note that there *may* be some uncertainty re: "did the printer
process the last request before the reset or not?" E.g. I wouldn't
endlessly retry printing a 100-page document in that case.
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t medium like Usenet.
> (Note - unfiltered pcap files can be very large
> on a busy network, but if you can quiet other traffic, you may not need
> to filter at all.)
Or simply filter. It's not hard -- the capture filter
"host my-printer-hostname-or-address" is enough.
/Jorg
elled "far" and still be understood.
This is IMHO out of the scope of re, and perhaps case-insensitivity
should have been too. Perhaps it /would/ have been, if regular
expressions hadn't come from the ASCII world where these things are
easy.
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Or a Git repository at github.com or similar.
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x times faster, because it uses libjpeg-turbo. Only some Linux
> distributions have replaced libjpeg with the turbo implementation.
That seems like an argument for *not* having support for many file
formats in the imaging library itself -- just pipeline into the best
standalone utilities available.
istory of creating broken Usenet postings in
new and exciting ways. It's at least as bad as MS Outlook Express and
AOL were in Usenet's past.
Your own posting (or mail) is almost flawless: correct quoting, and a
properly formatted response. But you seem to be using gmail and the
mailing list
erms of
> usability and searching above pinpointing files in heirarchies.
>
> I invite you to try it.
Hard to do without a manual page, or any documentation at all except
for a tiny "hello world"-style example ...
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al circumstances) but it might equally well have
ended with resentment. "Why did he sell this crap idea to me? Now I'm
stuck with it."
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this one looks quite odd
and isn't very human-readable.
If you have to use this format, I strongly recommend parsing it
"manually" as text first. Then you can create an ISO date and feed
that to strptime, or perhaps use your parsed (day, month, year) tuple
directly.
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uld take ~3MB of memory. The time to move
this from disk to a Python list of 9-tuples of strings would be almost
only disk I/O.
I think he should try to do it the dumb way first: read everything
into memory once.
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to, and the suppliers cannot even be bothered to compile it for
the CPU architecture that has been standard for at least 6--7 years,
start planning to replace it *now*.
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on.
It's not part of the definition of C either -- C supports segmented
memory (pre-386 Intel) and separate code/data address spaces. (Even if
most C users tend not to think of it that way.)
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whatever at the gyms to help you use the equipment
there safely and efficiently, there should be text editor instructors!)
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> emacs having the opposite problem, missing tabs (also,
> selecting text with my mouse is something I do often).
Does it *have* to be tabs? Why? Both Emacs and Vim can have multiple
files open, and have various powerful ways to navigate between them.
If you cannot stand non-tabbed
ant those (vt200) had
some exotic graphics mode. The VT-xxx series was pretty heterogenous,
although most of us think of them as more or less fancy VT-100s.
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kes care of JPEG quality, scaling and possibly gamma
correction, but not cropping or rotation. I'm sure there are better,
well-known algorithms.
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them for that.
If that's the *only* such use, I'd experiment with writing them as
sortable text to file, and run GNU sort (the Unix utility) on the file.
It seems to have a clever file-backed sort algorithm.
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look similar
in reality, but there are some pretty decent conventions which most
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On Thu, 2011-02-17, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>
>> - Write user documentation and build/installation scripts. Since I'm
>> on Unix, that means man pages and a Makefile.
>
> Wow, I haven't built a man page in eons. These days, us
On Fri, 2011-02-18, Alexander Kapps wrote:
> On 18.02.2011 19:51, Westley Martínez wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 04:55 -0800, peter wrote:
>>> On Feb 17, 9:55 pm, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> RAR is a proprietary format, which complicates th
ftware which
handles it. If Python included such a module, they'd be forced to
remove it from their version.
I wouldn't encourage its use by writing /more/ software which handles
it. IMHO, archives should be widely readable forever, and to be that
they need to be in a widely used, op
case. No need to do anything more fancy
if it turns out I'll never have to touch that program again.
I use classes when I see a use for them. The "see" part comes from
quite a few years' worth of experience with object-oriented design in
Python and C++ ... not sure how to lea
ed the text and the recipient address into
/usr/lib/sendmail.
If you build the interface on POP3 and SMTP, you have to bypass the
system's builtin mail capabilities.
If on the other hand it's on Windows, there's certainly some very
different scheme you have to follow (or bypass).
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l with
this in Python too:
I really suggest letting the user's $PATH decide which dig to call.
/usr/bin is always in the path. /usr/sbin may not be, but if that's a
problem for your users, just let your script start by appending it to
the pre-existing $PATH. You don't even
get a binary signed file.
If you really *do* have a requirement to make the result XML-like and
incompatible with anything else, I'm afraid you're on your own, and
will have a lot of extra work testing and making sure it's all secure.
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On Tue, 2010-10-26, Carl Banks wrote:
> On Oct 25, 11:20 pm, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>> On Mon, 2010-10-25, bruno.desthuilli...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On 25 oct, 15:34, Alex Willmer wrote:
>> >> On Oct 25, 11:07 am, kj wrote:
>>
>> >> > In "Th
han a depth of 5+ and only
>> a few top level items.
>>
> (snip)
>
> This also applies to inheritance hierarchies (which tend to be rather
> flat in Python compared to most mainstreams OOPLs), as well as nested
> classes etc.
Which mainstream languages are you thinking of?
o risk *not* getting told and hanging forever, or anyway
for far longer than your application is likely to want to wait. For
example if the peer host is suddenly disconnected from the network --
TCP will keep trying, in case a connection suddenly reappears much
later.
Try provoking that sit
a), then just build them on-the-fly
when you're printing:
f.write('%s: %s\n' % (name, MyFormatted(value)))
Class MyFormatted here is very much like dash_zero above; it
has no methods except __init__ and __str__.
I mostly do this in C++; perhaps it makes more sense in a language with
static typing, overloading and templates.
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ot;. I don't get it...
>
> You are subscribed to the python mailing list.
>
> Check your subscription status with the link below.
JN's posting was technically a reply to JM's SL question -- a
References: header led back to it. That's why he was confused.
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"This scenario is one of the most frequently asked
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Possibly I missed something in the question, but it's worth googling for.
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uot;Return the environment's $HTTP_HOST if
it exists, otherwise $SERVER_NAME or (if that
doesn't exist either) None.
"""
...
Perhaps you are focusing too much on inheritance in general.
I personally almost never use it in Python -- it has much fewer
uses h
On Wed, 2010-06-30, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 06/30/2010 03:00 AM, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-06-30, Michael Torrie wrote:
>>> On 06/29/2010 10:17 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
>>>> On 06/29/2010 10:05 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
>>>>> #include
On Wed, 2010-06-30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:14:38 +, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2010-06-29, Stephen Hansen wrote:
>>> On 6/29/10 5:41 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
>>>> Nobody wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And
u start a new list, push the corresponding closing tag onto
> a stack. Whenever your "indent level" decreases, pop the stack and
> write out the closing tag you get.
>
> It's straightforward to use a python list as a stack.
Or even simpler.
You keep track of your current indentation level (0, 1, ...). If
level==1 and you come to an indent: 2, you generate an and
increase level to 2. Similarly for going left. When you reach the end
you add s to go back up to level 1 (or maybe you want to call it
level 0 instead).
That probably assumes you use HTML (like you say) rather than XHTML
(which your example hints at). In HTML you don't need to supply the
s.
I did all this in Perl earlier today, but in my case it was unsuitable
because I skipped levels (had a list of HTML headings, wanted a
table-of-contents, but sometimes a was followed by with no
inbetween. I'd get invalid stuff like .
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, re is a tool -- and a useful one at that. But its also a tool which
> /seems/ like an omnitool capable of tackling everything.
That's more like my attitude towards them.
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x27;m sure plenty of people have done what
Gregory suggests ... but it's not clear that strncpy() was designed to
support those people.
I suppose it's all lost in history.
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27;t make
> a different. The code still crashes because the &buf is incorrect.
I haven't tried to understand the rest ... but never write
'sizeof(char)' unless you might change the type later. 'sizeof(char)'
is by definition 1 -- even on odd-ball architectures where a char is
e.g. 16 bits.
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he distinction Bourne shell/bash. If you can get away with it,
use bash for medium/large-sized scripts. Many people try to avoid
bash-specific syntax, but they miss out on lots of things that make
programs maintainable, like local variables.
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urn was
> an "int" or a "float". But that got fixed.
Huh? The C we have today cannot return a float, and not even a full int.
0 and 1 work, small integers up to 255 are likely to work, but beyond
that common systems (Unix) will chop off the high bits.
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On Mon, 2010-06-28, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Jorgen Grahn
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2010-06-27, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> In message , Roy Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> I recently fixed a bug in some production code. The p
) in C can *never* safely be
the only thing you do to the buffer: you also have to NUL-terminate it
manually in some corner cases. See the documentation.
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On Fri, 2010-06-25, Nobody wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:15:08 +0000, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>
>> I don't do SQL and I don't even understand the terminology properly
>> ... but the discussion around it bothers me.
>>
>> Do those people really do thi
On Sat, 2010-06-26, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Jorgen Grahn
> wrote:
>
>> I thought it was well-known that the solution is *not* to try to
>> sanitize the input -- it's to switch to an interface which doesn't
>> involve generating an inter
er "recursive make considered harmful". It took compiler writers
decades to realize what the best choice was there.
(By the way, -I commonly means "search this directory for include
files" rather than "include this file". You may want to avoid
confusing people by choosing another letter, like -i.)
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uld be something like os.popen2(['zcat', '-f', '--', untrusted]).
Am I missing something? If not, I can go back to sleep -- and keep
avoiding SQL and web programming like the plague until that community
has entered the 21st century.
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m.
But as he wrote, that is not an option. And I can believe that -- if
you are many programmers, working in parallel on some fairly big and
mature project, the *last* thing you want is someone coming in and
reindenting everything.
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.python.
I am still perfectly happy with Python 2.4 and 2.5. These are the
versions which are installed by default in modern, recent Linux
distributions. I bet it will be years before Python 3 replaces them.
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>>
>
> Done
And for reference, it's <http://bugs.python.org/issue7749>, "pydoc error".
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;t use .ini-style, but that's because I'm a Unix guy and they
remind me of brief and painful experiments with Windows 3.1.
Just remember to include support for commented-out lines.
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l put off when people call it "scripting"?
I won't attempt a strict definition of the term "scripting language",
but it seems like non-programmers use it to mean "less scary than what
you might think of as programming", while programmers interpret it as
"not useful as
ocesses. There
> is another possibility which is much more light-weight: asynchronous
> I/O, available through the low level select module, or more usefully
> via the higher-level asyncore module.
Yeah, that would be my first choice too for a problem which isn't
clearly CPU-bound. Or my second choice -- the first would be calling
on a utility like wget(1).
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On Thu, 2010-01-07, danmcle...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jan 7, 9:18 am, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>> On Thu, 2010-01-07, Rajat wrote:
>> > I want to run a python script( aka script2) from another python script
>> > (aka script1). While script1 executes script2 it waits for scri
hell"?) on Python 2.2 and a bit of 2.3, plus the official
documentation, plus this group, is all I think I need.
But I had a lot of Unix, C, C++ and Perl experience to help me.
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" makes me want to ask "Why?".
If he's expecting *many* pictures, I doubt that the parallel download
will buy him much. Reusing the same TCP socket for all of them is
more likely to help, especially if the pictures aren't tiny. One
long-lived TCP connection is much more efficient than dozens of
short-lived ones.
Personally, I'd popen() wget and let it do the job for me.
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> Please suggest how should I go about implementing it.
>
> I'm currently executing it as:
>
> import main from script2
> ret_code = main()
> return ret_code
>
> which surely is not going to achieve me what I intend.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Rajat.
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On Thu, 2009-10-22, Al Fansome wrote:
>
>
> Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-10-16, Jeremy wrote:
>>> On Oct 15, 6:32 pm, MRAB wrote:
>>>> TerryP wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 15, 7:42 pm, Jeremy wrote:
>>>>>> I need to write a
lf what the input format (language) is, (b)
write a parser for it (which transform it to Python data structures
and (c) write code to dump the data structures according to some DTD
(or whatever the XML people call it these days).
(c) seems to be the easy part.
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s sitting just waiting for one process
each to die -- those threads contribute nothing to the multiprocessing
you want.
In Unix, you can have one process fork() and exec() as many programs
as you like, have them run on whatever CPUs you have, and wait for
them to die and reap them using wait() and rela
popen() fits nicely into that category -- you have to
eat the child's output or feed it with input, or it will eventually
stall.
> Python being made with much loving kindless, exposes each interface.
Nicely put!
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C++ users often means "costs more than a semi-decent
alternative". For example, Stroustrup claimed back in 1994 that the
non-catching case can be implemented at no speed cost or no memory
usage cost (Design and Evolution of C++, 1994, p397).
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On Mon, 2009-10-19, oripel wrote:
> On Oct 14, 5:59 pm, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>> But this sentence on the home page
>>
>> The documentation is sadly outdated, but may be
>> a starting point:
>>
>> made me stop looking. As far as I can tell, you can
yboardInterrupt exception thrown in his face where other languages
would have exited silently by default.
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" is unfair. C++ is very different from Python,
and has a different implementation of exceptions. You also tend to use
the language to solve a different set of problems.
That said, I still don't fully understand the rationale behind that
advice or rule ... so I'm willing to break it, and sometimes I do.
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op tends to *not* have a boolean
variable as the while ... expression. That smells like flag
programming, and if I cannot come up with anything better that that, I
often prefer a "while 1" with breaks in it.
For a real-life loop, see for example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_search#
nto
> that block of code.
Why not? To me, it obviously does.
It would also help if you didn't use intentionally meaningless and
annoying variable names in your examples. In reality you would have a
meaningful expression like "not inputqueue.empty()" or
"time() < deadline" or something.
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ven the number of hackers who use it a lot)
there were lots of good IRC clients, but I don't use it myself, so ...
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a starting point:
made me stop looking. As far as I can tell, you cannot even find out
what's so advanced about it (or why "advanced" is a good thing)
without starting to use it. A brief comparison with module unittest
(which I am rather unhappy with) would have been nice, too
of
virtualization thing, with low CPU overhead.)
s/multi-threading/multi-programming/ I suppose. I certainly hope you
can still get performance while running many separate true processes in
parallel.
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d start by compiling it exactly like Ubuntu does. Just get the
Ubuntu source packet -- it's all in there, Ubuntu doesn't keep it a
secret.
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ghly to "segmentation fault", but IIRC it is more about
accessing memory words on nonaligned adresses than about accessing
addresses your process doesn't own.
[...]
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ompletely on the design of your daemon, and why
it calls another program. And what it does while that other program
is running.
inetd/xinetd on Unix is one example, but they feed the program's output
(all of it, both standard output and standard error, IIRC) to the remote
client. Same with CGI
clipboard?
If you think you need it because you don't want a temporary file,
maybe you can let AppMain read from standard input, and let the Python
program write the data using os.popen or one of the alternatives.
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cs term, but
it exists in Vim too). Also some other vital features which aren't
specific to Python. The best help an editor can give is language-
independent.
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here from each rows.
>
> for line in inf.readlines():
> if matches_criteria(line):
>line = modify_line(line)
> outf.write(line)
In other words, no. You need to put the results in another file.
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don't know how that works. I *do* know that you can do "setup.py
install --prefix somewhere" but the guy who does that needs to have
the actual source code, not a windows installer.
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hat kind of subtle improvements, I am also willing to
restructure my code so the natural scopes become short enough.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:20:35 +0100, Robin Becker wrote:
> Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:46:13 +0200, Diez B. Roggisch
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>> Well, if you are thinking about Debian Linux, it's not as much
>> "ripping out" as "splitting into a
veloper-only
> thing",
Well, if you are thinking about Debian Linux, it's not as much
"ripping out" as "splitting into a separate package with a non-obvious
name". Annoying at times, but hardly an atrocity.
/Jorgen
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service provider. If you don't want that
> happening, it's probably best to avoid Google Mail.
But this is Usenet (or at least it gets gatewayed there) and there
are such limits here (either by common agreement or by RFC).
Probably not Google's fault.
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You are probably calling the program incorrectly. A non-broken getopt has no
trouble with such things. When executing a program from a normal Unix
shell, single or double quotes (like you do above) is enough. I'd expect
other environments to behave in the same way.
If -q only eats the string "SQL", where does "1 TABLE" go? It cannot
just disappear; does it end up in 'args'?
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try_to_switch_to_file()
do_the_actual_logging(something)
unless it's vital that as many of these logs as possible survive a
crash (in which case I guess the program would also refuse to exit
until the user finds the physical flash memory device somewhere and
mounts it correctly -- fl
orithms
to find out important stuff about such a data structure.
You do not need (a) before you can do (b). You can even have Python as
your input format, and eval() the file. Crude and insecure, but it
works, at almost zero cost.
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ns that the computer can actually follow.
That's not a programmer, that's a compiler. Or (to at least *pretend*
to be on topic) that's the Python interpreter.
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he string. Strings are immutable.
So the best way is probably to make sure the '\n's do not end up in
the list in the first place. I suspect that is often more elegant too.
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7;s maintainers. I don't know if that's
the reason, but my applications rarely or never break. So I'm not
quite sure what happened in your case ...
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ou can't simply pass it in.
>
> Unix uses streams as abstraction for a lot of things - all kinds of devices
> for example.
You mean "uses the BSD Socket API as an abstraction" here. That's the
framework where "AF_BLUETOOTH" apparently lives.
/Jorgen
m not going to put Python software out for public use again. I don't
> have the time to deal with this crap.
And which other language would have made it easier? Once you have odd
third-party dependencies, you (or your users, rather) will have
problems.
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text files tend to underestimate the usefullness of databases.)
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w from the data.
To me, if I can find something with a certain lifetime, a certain set
of invariants, and a suitable name and catchphrase describing it, then
that's probably a class. Then I keep my fingers crossed and hope it
works out reasonably well. If it doesn't, I try another approach.
/Jorgen
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ildebeeste Herder to the Masses
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> Yap, I found that dpkt can do this, Thanks all.
I have used the 'pcapy' module successfully for this. Might be better
than the ones mentioned above, might be worse.
Also, the pcap file format isn't really hard: you can write such code
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