On Wednesday 17 June 2015 12:42, Dr. John Q. Hacker wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano <
> steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:24:03 -0500, Dr. John Q. Hacker wrote:
>>
>> > [Dr. Bigcock wrote:]
>> >> The current syntax for adding functi
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> I'm reasonably certain that they're actually the same person, and he's
> now engaging in sockpuppetry [1] by starting conversations with
> himself.
I used to think there was a limit to the depths of human boredom. Then
I met the internet, and le
Ned Batchelder writes:
> Thomas: let's say I generate streams of N digits drawn randomly from
> 0-9. I then consider the probability of a zero *never appearing once*
> in my stream. Let's call that P(N). Do you agree that as N
> increases, P(N) decreases?
In probability theory, that could be p
On 06/16/2015 07:55 PM, Dr. John Q. Hacker wrote:
> Interesting. This brings up an issue another poster brought up: In my
> usage of the term "parent", I use it to mean the class that is a product of
> object composition:
>
> class Parent(child1, child2): pass
Hmm. This is a definition of "par
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:53 am, Dr. John Q. Hacker wrote:
> But, frankly, what you describe is more likely to be a weakness of multiple
> inheritance and mixins, one which should be avoided. One attempt to avoid
> this problem is with traits
On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:24:03 -0500, Dr. John Q. Hacker wrote:
> [Dr. Bigcock wrote:]
>> The current syntax for adding functionality to a class using mix-in
>> style via inheritance list conflates two very different things.
I'm not sure why you are taking "Dr Bigcock" seriously. You know he isn't
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 01:45:27 +0200, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> The
> probability of only having sons is _not_ greater than that of having
> sons and one daughter or vice-versa.
Take a family of four children. We can enumerate all the possibilities,
using S for son and D for daughter, the
On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:48:04 -0700, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> I apologize, I'm sure I've been using the mathematical terms
> imprecisely. We are all intelligent people, so I still believe we
> disagree because we are talking about different things.
Neil, I believe that your actual mistake is assumi
On 06/16/2015 06:01 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
The only instance of gambler's fallacy I'm seeing here is "PointedEars
didn't understand the last dozen emails, so he's due to understand the
next one". I've given up trying to explain.
+1 QotW
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On 06/16/2015 02:49 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2015-06-16, John McKenzie wrote:
>
>> It never occurred to me something so simple as keystrokes would not
>> be present in Python, a language rated as being terrific by everyone
>> I know who knows it.
>
> Ah, but in reality "keystrokes" is not s
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:36 AM, wrote:
> Yes, we all know what the gambler's fallacy is, but that's not what anyone is
> arguing.
The only instance of gambler's fallacy I'm seeing here is "PointedEars
didn't understand the last dozen emails, so he's due to understand the
next one". I've given
On 2015-06-17 00:45, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
Ned Batchelder wrote:
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 6:01:06 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
wrote:
Your programmatic "proof", as all the other intuitive-empirical "proofs",
and all the other counter-arguments posted before in this thread
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 4:48:36 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Ned Batchelder wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 6:01:06 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> > wrote:
> >> Your programmatic "proof", as all the other intuitive-empirical "proofs",
> >> and all the other co
On 16Jun2015 18:18, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
On Tuesday 16 June 2015 10:35, MRAB wrote:
On 2015-06-16 01:24, sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote:
Using a keyword argument for the edir function is the most intuitive
and easy to read, IMO.
edir() has a keyword argument: edir(x, dunders=False) suppresse
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:22 AM, Néstor Boscán wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Néstor Boscán wrote:
>> > I tried that but it didn't work.
>> >
>> > I had to change /etc/selinux/config and reboot to make it work. It
>> > would be
>> > nice if the wsgi module generated some log that exp
Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 6:01:06 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> wrote:
>> Your programmatic "proof", as all the other intuitive-empirical "proofs",
>> and all the other counter-arguments posted before in this thread, is
>> flawed. As others have pointed out at th
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 6:01:06 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Ned Batchelder wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > This is done empirically, by producing `nseq` sequences of
> > `nrolls` rolls of the die. Each sequence is examined to
> > see if it has a zero. The total number of
On Jun 16, 2015 4:58 PM, "Ian Kelly" wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 4:30 PM, wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 3:01:06 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars'
Lahn wrote:
> >> This should give you pause: In real mathematics, events with zero
> >> probability can occur.
> >
> > Nobody will disag
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 4:30 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 3:01:06 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> wrote:
>> This should give you pause: In real mathematics, events with zero
>> probability can occur.
>
> Nobody will disagree with that. The probability of me winning the lotter
On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:45:01 +0100, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> On 16 June 2015 at 09:18, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>>
>> The primary use-case (at least *my* use-case, and hopefully others) is
>> to have "from module import edir as dir" in their Python startup file.
>> That means that when running int
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 3:01:06 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Ned Batchelder wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > This is done empirically, by producing `nseq` sequences of
> > `nrolls` rolls of the die. Each sequence is examined to
> > see if it has a zero. The total number of
Ned Batchelder wrote:
> […]
> This is done empirically, by producing `nseq` sequences of
> `nrolls` rolls of the die. Each sequence is examined to
> see if it has a zero. The total number of no-zero
> sequences divided `nseq` is the probability.
No, it is not. It is the relativ
John McKenzie writes:
> Would like a set-up where something happens when a key is pressed. Not
> propose a question, have the user type something, then hit return, then
> something happens, but just the R key is pressed, something happens,
The quick answer is that you want raw mode tty input.
You are not specifying how are you doing the comparison, but here is my 2 cents:
Import the foxpro tables into the MySQL database and then you'll be able to do
your update in a single SQL statement, which, even for that many records would
take some only a few seconds, then delete th imported da
On 2015-06-16, John McKenzie wrote:
> It never occurred to me something so simple as keystrokes would not
> be present in Python, a language rated as being terrific by everyone
> I know who knows it.
Ah, but in reality "keystrokes" is not simple at all. Keyboards and
input handling is a very me
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 3:21:46 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Ned Batchelder wrote:
>
> > You aren't agreeing because you are arguing about different things.
> > Thomas is talking about the relative probability of sequences of digits.
>
> There is no such thing as “relative pr
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015, at 15:18, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> There is no such thing as “relative probability”, except perhaps in
> popular-
> scientific material and bad translations. You might mean relative
> _frequency_, but I was not talking about that specifically.
The probability of o
That was the impression I got reading some comments people made online
and doing research, so I focused on tkinter. As I mentioned in the 4th
sentence of the post you quoted I discovered that was not the case, but
by then I had already done some work on the tkinter script so I kept with
it.
On 15/06/2015 22:01, Sebastian M Cheung via Python-list wrote:
On Monday, June 15, 2015 at 11:19:48 AM UTC+1, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 15/06/2015 11:12, Sebastian M Cheung via Python-list wrote:
How to do financial data cleaning ? Say I assume a list of 1000 finance series
data in myList = Open
Ned Batchelder wrote:
> You aren't agreeing because you are arguing about different things.
> Thomas is talking about the relative probability of sequences of digits.
There is no such thing as “relative probability”, except perhaps in popular-
scientific material and bad translations. You might
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Chris Warrick wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Néstor Boscán > wrote:
> > I tried that but it didn't work.
> >
> > I had to change /etc/selinux/config and reboot to make it work. It
> would be
> > nice if the wsgi module generated some log that explains why y
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Néstor Boscán wrote:
> I tried that but it didn't work.
>
> I had to change /etc/selinux/config and reboot to make it work. It would be
> nice if the wsgi module generated some log that explains why you get the
> 403. There are several posibilities.
Well, that’s
I tried that but it didn't work.
I had to change /etc/selinux/config and reboot to make it work. It would
be nice if the wsgi module generated some log that explains why you get the
403. There are several posibilities.
Regards,
Nestor
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Chris Warrick wrote:
> On Tue,
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Néstor Boscán wrote:
> I disabled selinux completely and the page worked.
So, selinux was the problem (which is typical, it’s a really dumb
piece of software)
The command to disable enforcing temporarily is actually "setenforce
0". Though you would need to issue
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On 06/14/2015 11:23 PM, John McKenzie wrote:
> Thank to the others who joined in and posted replies.
>
> Michael, your assumption is correct. To quote my original post, "and I
> want this working on a Raspberry Pi." Doing a superficial look at curses
> and getch it looks excessively complicate
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 9:33:58 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:17 AM, wrote:
> > Thanks. The scipy issue seems solved. But this silly issue is giving so
> > much of time. I am checking. Please see a sample code,
> >
> > import sys
> > sys.stderr = sys.stdout
>
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:17 AM, wrote:
> Thanks. The scipy issue seems solved. But this silly issue is giving so much
> of time. I am checking. Please see a sample code,
>
> import sys
> sys.stderr = sys.stdout
> class Colors:
> def Blue(self):
> self.var="This is Blue"
> pr
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:17 AM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 8:35:39 PM UTC+5:30, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> In a message of Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:56:12 -0700, writes:
>> >ii) In a class how may I include if __name__ == "__main__": with multiple
>> >methods? But I think this is easy ques
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Ben Powers wrote:
> As importlib has been added in python 3 and up I decided to use it's
> abilities to create a plugin system for truly modular development in python.
>
> Pyitect has the ability to drop in components and resolve dependencies. Even
> load different
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 8:35:39 PM UTC+5:30, Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:56:12 -0700, writes:
> >ii) In a class how may I include if __name__ == "__main__": with multiple
> >methods? But I think this is easy question there should be lot of web help.
> >
> >I
It appears that one of my posts was cut off. It contains my script but
none of the lengthy text in front of it.
To summarize, my set-up consists of three "massive arcade buttons" from
Adafruit. one red, one blue, one yellow. They are connected to a Kade
Device that is connected to a Raspberr
In a message of Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:56:12 -0700, subhabrata.bane...@gmail.com w
rites:
>ii) In a class how may I include if __name__ == "__main__": with multiple
>methods? But I think this is easy question there should be lot of web help.
>
>If anyone may kindly suggest.
>
>Regards,
>Subhabrata B
On 06/16/2015 06:56 AM, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 06/15/2015 06:19 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Setting a global on the module (which I may not have, and probably
didn't, import) for only one function is overkill.
What do you mean? Even if you pull in just one function from the
module on an import
On Monday, June 15, 2015 at 9:59:33 PM UTC+5:30, Laura Creighton wrote:
> I don't have a windows system, so my knowledge of such things is
> minimal. But looks like this person had the same problem you have,
> and got some suggestions on how to fix it.
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12127
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I have a function in a module which is intended to be used by importing
> that name alone, then used interactively:
>
> from module import edir
> edir(args)
>
>
> edir is an enhanced version of dir, and one of the enhancements is that
> you can filter out dunder
On 06/15/2015 06:19 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> Setting a global on the module (which I may not have, and probably
> didn't, import) for only one function is overkill.
What do you mean? Even if you pull in just one function from the
module on an import, the module's initialization code still runs.
On 06/15/2015 06:20 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> I'm surprised by your assertion. To my mind, outside callers get simple
> and direct access to the attribute, whereas the code of the function
> itself does not have such easy access; unlike ‘self’ for the current
> instance of a class, there's no obvious
On 16 June 2015 at 09:18, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
>
> The primary use-case (at least *my* use-case, and hopefully others) is to
> have "from module import edir as dir" in their Python startup file. That
> means that when running interactively, they will get the enhanced version of
> dir, but when r
On 06/16/2015 05:15 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tuesday 16 June 2015 10:24, Ron Adam wrote:
>Another way is to make it an object with a __call__ method.
>
>The the attribute can be accessed from both outside and inside dependably.
That's what functions are, objects with a __call__ method:
On Monday, June 15, 2015 at 9:59:33 PM UTC+5:30, Laura Creighton wrote:
> I don't have a windows system, so my knowledge of such things is
> minimal. But looks like this person had the same problem you have,
> and got some suggestions on how to fix it.
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12127
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I disabled selinux completely and the page worked.
Regards,
Nestor
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Steven D'Aprano <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 June 2015 13:31, Néstor Boscán wrote:
>
> > Tried it and I keep having the same error. Isn't there a log file where I
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On 16.06.2015 01:57, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Alternatively, I can use a flag set on the function object itself:
>
> edir.dunders = False
>
>
> Naturally you can always override the default by explicitly
> specifying a keyword argument edir(obj,
On Tuesday 16 June 2015 16:06, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 16/06/2015 00:57, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...]
>> Naturally you can always override the default by explicitly specifying a
>> keyword argument edir(obj, dunders=flag).
>>
>> Thoughts and feedback? Please vote: a module global, or a flag on t
On Tuesday 16 June 2015 13:31, Néstor Boscán wrote:
> Tried it and I keep having the same error. Isn't there a log file where I
> can check what is causing this?
Probably. Have you googled for "selinux log file"?
We're not experts on SELinux, this is a Python mailing list, not a
specialist SEL
On Tuesday 16 June 2015 10:24, Ron Adam wrote:
> Another way is to make it an object with a __call__ method.
>
> The the attribute can be accessed from both outside and inside dependably.
That's what functions are, objects with a __call__ method:
py> (lambda: None).__call__
One slight disad
On Tuesday 16 June 2015 10:20, Ben Finney wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>> > I can use a flag set on the function object itself:
>> >
>> > edir.dunders = False
>>
>> For most situations, the last one is extremely surprising - att
On Tuesday 16 June 2015 10:37, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>> Thoughts and feedback? Please vote: a module global, or a flag on the
>> object? Please give reasons, and remember that the function is intended
>> for interactive use.
>
> Both are bad. More state to remember, ugh.
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On Tuesday 16 June 2015 10:35, MRAB wrote:
> On 2015-06-16 01:24, sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Using a keyword argument for the edir function is the most intuitive
>> and easy to read, IMO.
edir() has a keyword argument: edir(x, dunders=False) suppresses the return
of dunder names. But since
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