Ned Batchelder wrote: > On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 6:01:06 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn > wrote: >> Your programmatic "proof", as all the other intuitive-empirical "proofs", >> and all the other counter-arguments posted before in this thread, is >> flawed. As others have pointed out at the beginning of this thread, you >> *cannot* measure or calculate probability or determine randomness >> programmatically (at least not with this program). > > You *can* estimate probability with a program, which is what is happening > here.
No. Just no. >> I repeat: Probability is what relative >> frequency (which you can measure) *approaches* for *large* numbers. 100 >> is anything but large, to begin with. > > The number of trials in this program is not 100, it is 1 million. You > seem uninterested in trying to understand. It still would _not_ a measure or a calculation of *probability*. So much for “uninterested in trying to understand”. >> What is "large" depends on the experiment, not on the experimentator. >> And with independent events, the probability for getting zero does not >> increase because you have been getting non-zeros before. It simply does >> not work this way. > > Again, if you look at the code, you'll see that we are not talking about > the probability of getting a zero on the next roll. We are talking about > the probability of getting no zeros in an N-roll sequence. I have no idea > how you have misunderstood this for so long. You do not understand that it boils down to the same problem. The probability of only having sons is _not_ greater than that of having sons and one daughter or vice-versa. And for that it does _not_ matter how many children you have *because* it does _not_ matter how many children you had before. The probability for a boy or a girl is *always* the same. You are _not_ due for a boy if you have many girls, and not for a girls if you have many boys. But that is precisely what your flawed logic is implying. Learn probability theory, and use a dictionary in Python when you want to count random hits. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
