Re: Modify the local scope inside a function

2006-02-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:53:08 -0800, Sandra-24 wrote: > Is there a way in python to add the items of a dictionary to the local > function scope? i.e. var_foo = dict['var_foo']. I don't know how many > items are in this dictionary, or what they are until runtime. Are you sure you need to do this? H

Re: Modify the local scope inside a function

2006-02-25 Thread Jason Mobarak
Sandra-24 wrote: > Is there a way in python to add the items of a dictionary to the local > function scope? i.e. var_foo = dict['var_foo']. I don't know how many > items are in this dictionary, or what they are until runtime. Why do you want to do this? Exec and eval should -not- be used for this

Looking a device up in the Running Object Table

2006-02-25 Thread Lunchtimemama
I'm looking to disable Windows autoplay for a particular device. There's a registry key (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoplayHandlers\CancelAutoplay\CLSID) that will turn off autoplay for listed devices, but one must provide the device's CLSID as it appears

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread The Eternal Squire
Kay Schluehr wrote: > John Coleman wrote: > > Ron Stephens wrote: > > > Actually, Python has the distinction of being both a great tool > > > language *and* a great Zen language. That's what makes Python so cool > > > ;-))) > > > > > > Ron Stephens > > > Python411 > > > www.awaretek.com/python/ind

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Crutcher
You are a very silly person. You have tripped so many of my internet bullshit triggers that I think perhaps you are trolling. All languages alter the way you think. They structure the nature of questions you can ask, and problems you can solve. Do you understand 'Zen', by which I mean, have you de

Re: xslt queries in xml to SQL queries

2006-02-25 Thread Crutcher
Skipping ahead, let me try to rephrase this. First, this isn't really a python question, it is SQL, XSLT, and program design, but I'll try to answer. You have templates, they contain general layout stuff, and input fields. You are transforming them into HTML pages, and part of what you want to do

Re: Modify the local scope inside a function

2006-02-25 Thread Crutcher
Here you go. Unfortunate that you can't modify locals() easily, but there are other options. def foo(d): for k in d: exec '%s = %s' % (k, repr(d[k])) print a + b foo({'a':1, 'b':2}) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to send an email with non-ascii characters in Python

2006-02-25 Thread Kent Johnson
Gabriel B. wrote: > what does a string became when it's decoded? > > I mean, it must be encoded in something, right? Unicode, for encodings like latin-1 or utf-8. A few special cases like str.decode('string_escape') yield byte strings again. Kent -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:09:16 -0800, John Coleman wrote: > Greetings, >I have a rough classification of languages into 2 classes: Zen > languages and tool languages. A tool language is a language that is, > well, a *tool* for programming a computer. C is the prototypical tool > language. Most l

Re: Optimize flag question

2006-02-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:56:42 -0800, bonono wrote: > > Steve Holden wrote: >> > Some other functions rely on the AssertionError exception to indicate to >> > the user that something went wrong instead of using a user defined >> > exception. >> > >> >> The real problem here is that you appear to be

Re: "Temporary" Variable

2006-02-25 Thread Terry Hancock
On 24 Feb 2006 14:08:22 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Reply to all: I realize that naming a variable "spam" is > not entirely kosherized. In fact this is untrue: It is an official rule straight from the BDFL himself that example programs should contain words like "spam", "ham", "eggs" from the

Re: "Temporary" Variable

2006-02-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:08:22 -0800, darthbob88 wrote: > Reply to all: I realize that naming a variable "spam" is not entirely > kosherized. It was originally named secret, but I renamed it in a fit > of whimsy. The language is named after Monty Python's Flying Circus, is > it not? Remember the Spa

Re: How to Mount/Unmount Drives on Windows?

2006-02-25 Thread shearichard
This looks like it might help you ... http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=311272 ... although the blurb does say "DevCon is not redistributable. It is provided for use as a debugging and development tool". There is an article about it at ... http://tinyurl.com/4kb8m regards richard. -- http

Pythonic exceptionalism (was: A C-like if statement)

2006-02-25 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:04:38 -0700, Bob Greschke wrote: > >>> try: >>>i = a.find("3") >>>print "It's here: ", i >>> except NotFound: >>>print "No 3's here" >> >> Nuts. I guess you're right. It wouldn't be pr

How to Mount/Unmount Drives on Windows?

2006-02-25 Thread dpickles
Hello, I am creating a simple application that will reside in the Windows system tray. The purpose of the program is to mount or unmount external hard drives or flash memory devices, and to set their default states (ie mounted or unmounted) at startup. I do not know how to mount or unmount drives

Re: Optimize flag question

2006-02-25 Thread bonono
Steve Holden wrote: > > Some other functions rely on the AssertionError exception to indicate to > > the user that something went wrong instead of using a user defined > > exception. > > > > The real problem here is that you appear to be using AssertionError in > an inappropriate way. If some call

Re: Path (graph) shower utility

2006-02-25 Thread Scott David Daniels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you Jorgen, now I understand the question, and the answer isn't > difficult :-) > > Graphviz is good enough for this purpose. > >> but IIRC there are Python bindings for it as well.< > ... > There are other libs around, I have seen a new one quite recently. Perha

ImportError in Unpickle

2006-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, I have a python script that pickles and unpickles a give object. It works without any problems on windows (the data was pickled on windows first). But when I try to run the script on Linux, I get the following error: mydbinfo = pickle.Unpickler(f).load() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/pickle.

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread Ross Ridge
Xavier Morel wrote: > Not if you're still within Unicode / Universal Character Set code space. Akihiro Kayama in his original post made it clear that he wanted to use a character set larger than entire Unicode code space. Ross Ridge -- http://mail.python.o

xslt queries in xml to SQL queries

2006-02-25 Thread Ian Roddis
Hello, I want to embed SQL type queries within an XML data record. The XML looks something like this: 1 2 3 I want to populate the drop down options from a database. The table looks like this (example): CREATE TABLE options_

Re: spaces at ends of filenames or directory names on Win32

2006-02-25 Thread Jeffrey Schwab
Larry Bates wrote: > Jeffrey Schwab wrote: > >>Larry Bates wrote: >> >> >>>IMHO leading and/or trailing spaces in filenames is asking for >>>incompatibilities with cross-platform file access. >> >>With what platforms specifically? >> >> >>>Much like >>>using single-quote in filenames which are per

Re: groupwise send mail

2006-02-25 Thread Max M
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Can someone give me an idea as to why this is not working? The > Recipients.Add line doesnt cause an error, but my recipients arent > being used. The email never gets sent because there is no recipeients. > > Thanks, > Eric > > > import win32com.client > gwApp = win3

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread Xavier Morel
Ross Ridge wrote: > Steve Holden wrote: >> "Wider than UTF-16" doesn't make sense. > > It makes perfect sense. > > Ross > Ridge > Not if you're still within Unicode / Universal Character Set code space. While UCS-4 technically goes

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread Xavier Morel
Akihiro KAYAMA wrote: > Sorry for my terrible English. I am living in Japan, and we have a > large number of characters called Kanji. UTF-16(U+...U+10) is > enough for practical use in this country also, but for academic > purpose, I need a large codespace over 20-bits. I wish I could use >

Re: Can optparse do dependencies?

2006-02-25 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Raymond Hettinger wrote: >> I'd like to setup command line switches that are dependent on other >> switches, similar to what rpm does listed below. From the grammar >> below we see that the "query-options" are dependent on the query >> switch, {-q|--query}. Can "optparse" do this or do I have to c

Modify the local scope inside a function

2006-02-25 Thread Sandra-24
Is there a way in python to add the items of a dictionary to the local function scope? i.e. var_foo = dict['var_foo']. I don't know how many items are in this dictionary, or what they are until runtime. exec statements are difficult for debuggers to deal with, so as a workaround I built my code in

Re: How to send an email with non-ascii characters in Python

2006-02-25 Thread Gabriel B.
2006/2/25, Sybren Stuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Lad enlightened us with: > > Body='Rídících Márinka a Školák Kája > > Marík'.decode('utf8').encode('windows-1250')# I use the text written > > in my editor with utf-8 coding, so first I decode and then encode to > > windows-1250 what does a string be

Re: time.sleep(1) sometimes runs for 200 seconds under windows

2006-02-25 Thread Claudio Grondi
Claudio Grondi wrote: > Claudio Grondi wrote: > >> Paul Probert wrote: >> >>> Peter Hansen wrote: >>> Are you saying that you believe the time.sleep(1) call is actually blocking for 200 seconds? >> >> With such rare occurrence it is very hard to tell what is going on. >> Usually I put

Re: looking for a simpe plotting module

2006-02-25 Thread Henrique Ferreiro
matplotlib is an excellent library which uses the syntax of matlab plots. http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net O Sáb, 25-02-2006 ás 15:01 -0800, MARK LEEDS escribiu: > i'm pretty much a python beginner so can anyone recommend a plooting > package in python ( simple foating numbers > that makes lin

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Paul Rubin
"Kay Schluehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have at times the impression that many people who talk about Zen > philosophy confuse it with some home brewn mixture of platonism with > its transgressive move towards the true reality, a stoic hedonism of > contemplation and the taoistic being-in-doi

looking for a simpe plotting module

2006-02-25 Thread MARK LEEDS
i'm pretty much a python beginner so can anyone recommend a plooting package in python ( simple foating  numbers that makes lines or dots with a yaxis and an an xaxis. i don't need fancy drawings ) that is a built in module in python ?  i am using python 2.4 in linux if that matters. thanks

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread none
John Coleman wrote: > Bryan Olson wrote: > >>John Coleman wrote: >> >>> I have a rough classification of languages into 2 classes: Zen >>>languages and tool languages. A tool language is a language that is, >>>well, a *tool* for programming a computer. C is the prototypical tool >>>language. Mos

Re: spaces at ends of filenames or directory names on Win32

2006-02-25 Thread Larry Bates
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:49:31 -0600, Larry Bates wrote: > >> Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:30:22 -0600, Larry Bates wrote: >>> How about not naming files with leading and trailing spaces on the Mac? Seems like a bad habit that needs breaking ;

Re: spaces at ends of filenames or directory names on Win32

2006-02-25 Thread Larry Bates
Jeffrey Schwab wrote: > Larry Bates wrote: > >> IMHO leading and/or trailing spaces in filenames is asking for >> incompatibilities with cross-platform file access. > > With what platforms specifically? > >> Much like >> using single-quote in filenames which are perfectly legal in >> DOS/Windows

Re: Optimize flag question

2006-02-25 Thread Steve Holden
[copied to python-list] Olivier Langlois wrote: > Hi Steve! > >>Could you outline the code that needs to be in to make the program > > work, > >>so we can assess the errors for ourselves? >> > > > There is nothing unfixable. There are some instances where the code is > checking a function ret

Re: Concantenation and string slicing

2006-02-25 Thread Larry Bates
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:06:46 -0600, Larry Bates > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: > > >> Better was is: >> >> message = raw_input("Enter a message: ") >> print message[::-1] >> > > I sometimes get the feeling a lot of responses t

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Kay Schluehr
John Coleman wrote: > Ron Stephens wrote: > > Actually, Python has the distinction of being both a great tool > > language *and* a great Zen language. That's what makes Python so cool > > ;-))) > > > > Ron Stephens > > Python411 > > www.awaretek.com/python/index.html > > This would explain why the

Re: Grabbing a object from the current code block using a callable statement?

2006-02-25 Thread Larry Bates
ChaosKCW wrote: > Hi > > Is it possible to grab get an object returned from a string and a > callable ? e.g > > I pass in a key value pair: > > def somemethod(adict = {'new name for object': ' obejct>'}): > > object = . > > for key, value in adict.items(): > if callable(value):

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Claudio Grondi
John Coleman wrote: > Greetings, >I have a rough classification of languages into 2 classes: Zen > languages and tool languages. A tool language is a language that is, > well, a *tool* for programming a computer. C is the prototypical tool > language. Most languages in the Algol family are tool

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread Ross Ridge
Steve Holden wrote: >"Wider than UTF-16" doesn't make sense. Ross Ridge wrote" > It makes perfect sense. Alan Kennedy wrote: > UTF-16 is a "Unicode Transcription Format", meaning that it is a > mechanism for representing all unicode code points, even the ones with > ordinals greater than 0x,

Re: Optimize flag question

2006-02-25 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Olivier Langlois] > > So my question is: what are the 'optimizations' that the Python > > interpreter is doing when you specify the optimize flag and is there > > anything I should be cautious about when using it? Currently, -O provides no optimizations other than eliminating assertions. Raymon

Re: Can optparse do dependencies?

2006-02-25 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Bob] > I'd like to setup command line switches that are dependent on other > switches, similar to what rpm does listed below. From the grammar below > we see that the "query-options" are dependent on the query switch, > {-q|--query}. Can "optparse" do this or do I have to code my own > "thing"? Th

Editable lists in pygtk - Editing wrong cell

2006-02-25 Thread sapo
Hi all, i m trying to make an editable list with a toggle button, it shows up and i can edit the list.. but its editing the wrong cell! If i click on the toggle button on the first cell it sets FALSE on the last cell of that row, if i change the text of the last cell if changes another cell text..

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Steve Holden] >>"Wider than UTF-16" doesn't make sense. [Ross Ridge] > It makes perfect sense. No it doesn't. UTF-16 is a "Unicode Transcription Format", meaning that it is a mechanism for representing all unicode code points, even the ones with ordinals greater than 0x, using series of 16-

Re: remote module importing (urlimport)

2006-02-25 Thread EP
ajones wrote: >What plans do you have for security in this? I would think that in >order to trust this over the network you would at least need a >certificate identifying the server as well as some method of verifying >package contents. > >Either way, cool stuff. > > > I think this is an interes

Re: spaces at ends of filenames or directory names on Win32

2006-02-25 Thread drobinow
For example... tell windows to move a file named ' XXX ' (one space before and one space after the filename). Windows will complain that file 'XXX' does not exist. It's correct of course, 'XXX' does not exist, but ' XXX ' does indeed exist. Can anyone rescue me from this madness :( - Please p

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread John Coleman
Bryan Olson wrote: > John Coleman wrote: > >I have a rough classification of languages into 2 classes: Zen > > languages and tool languages. A tool language is a language that is, > > well, a *tool* for programming a computer. C is the prototypical tool > > language. Most languages in the Algo

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:31:33 GMT, Bryan Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > I think that's a horrible classification. Every language is both. I agree; it's horrible as a classification. But it's interesting concepts. One might use them to discuss the design of various languages, and how the us

Re: Path (graph) shower utility

2006-02-25 Thread bearophileHUGS
Thank you Jorgen, now I understand the question, and the answer isn't difficult :-) Graphviz is good enough for this purpose. >but IIRC there are Python bindings for it as well.< Durumdara can use an email module to extract data, then a graph library to create the graph, and then save the result

Re: Path (graph) shower utility

2006-02-25 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:31:15 +0100, Durumdara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi ! > > I need to create a program that read eml file headers, analyze the You mean "email". Took me some time to figure out. > receive tags and create a path database. I fi

Re: PyGTK + Glade = weird problem

2006-02-25 Thread sapo
Finally solved this stuff, the problem wasnt with glade, the problem was that i was using the "destroy" event in glade, i just changed the "destroy" to "delete-event" and it worked like a charm. thanx :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python-list/python-dev quoting style

2006-02-25 Thread Michael Hoffman
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2006-02-25, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>[me] >It's hard to believe that you don't understand who "me" is in >a conversation between two people, [me] >>>Is there really confusion about who "me" is? I find that >>>mystifying. [Grant Edwards] > And no

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Bryan Olson
John Coleman wrote: >I have a rough classification of languages into 2 classes: Zen > languages and tool languages. A tool language is a language that is, > well, a *tool* for programming a computer. C is the prototypical tool > language. Most languages in the Algol family are tool languages. V

Grabbing a object from the current code block using a callable statement?

2006-02-25 Thread ChaosKCW
Hi Is it possible to grab get an object returned from a string and a callable ? e.g I pass in a key value pair: def somemethod(adict = {'new name for object': ''}): object = . for key, value in adict.items(): if callable(value): somedict[key] = value() else:

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread Ross Ridge
Steve Holden wrote: > "Wider than UTF-16" doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense. Ross Ridge -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A bit off topic, but good web hosting for PostgreSQL/Python?

2006-02-25 Thread Francisco Reyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Seems like most web hosting providers support MySQL, but not > PostgreSQL. There are actually many. Two that I personally have experience with: http://hub.org http://bizintegrators.com They both support PostgreSQL. Not sure on their python support, but I believe the

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Luis M. González
I don't know if python is Zend. It's quite minimalistic and it "flows" very well, so I guess it is a... "Feng-shui" language? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Terry Reedy
"John Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] an interesting statement and question. ... > So (assuming my classification makes sense) which is Python? The > emphasis on simplicity and the beginner-friendly nature of it seems to > put it in the tool category. On the

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Twig
Kent Johnson wrote: > > Expanding on what Alex said :-) *snip* > > Python is an excellent tool language, it is very pragmatic and powerful *snip* > > Kent "It's a good axe", Muddy waters said about his guitar when asked by some heavy-mega guitar hero. Python is practical tool for practical p

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread Akihiro KAYAMA
Hi Steve. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: steve> Akihiro KAYAMA wrote: steve> > Hi all. steve> > steve> > I would like to ask how I can implement string-like class using tuple steve> > or list. Does anyone know about some example codes of pure python stev

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Twig
What is "zen"? Is it something eatible (I'm hungry now)? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread Akihiro KAYAMA
Hi And. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and-google> Akihiro KAYAMA wrote: and-google> > As the character set is wider than UTF-16(U+10), I can't use and-google> > Python's native unicode string class. and-google> and-google> Have you tried using Python compiled in W

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread Akihiro KAYAMA
Hi bearophile. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bearophileHUGS> Maybe you can create your class using an array of 'L' with the array bearophileHUGS> standard module. Thanks for your suggestion. I'm currently using an usual list as a internal representation. According to

Can optparse do dependencies?

2006-02-25 Thread Bob
I'd like to setup command line switches that are dependent on other switches, similar to what rpm does listed below. From the grammar below we see that the "query-options" are dependent on the query switch, {-q|--query}. Can "optparse" do this or do I have to code my own "thing"? Thanks. QUERYING

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Kent Johnson
John Coleman wrote: > Greetings, >I have a rough classification of languages into 2 classes: Zen > languages and tool languages. A tool language is a language that is, > well, a *tool* for programming a computer. C is the prototypical tool > language. Most languages in the Algol family are tool

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Max Erickson
Given that python code is often described in terms of being 'pythonic' or not, and that pythonic is a term that is apparently well agreed upon yet seemingly impossible to define for someone who does not already understand the word, python is probably a zen language. max -- http://mail.pytho

Re: Multiple threaded download streams?

2006-02-25 Thread Larry Bates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello. > Though Python supports threading, I think it is limited to python code > - as soon as you issue a command that uses an external (C?) module, all > of your python threads hang until this command returns. > Is that true? > I'm using urllib2 to download many files,

Re: Import in a separate thread

2006-02-25 Thread Kent Johnson
cyberco wrote: > I want to import a long list of modules in a separate thread to speed > things up. How can I make the modules imported in that separate thread > accessible outside the method? > > === > import os > > # import rest in a separate thread > def importRest(): >

Re: Import in a separate thread

2006-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-02-25, cyberco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, it is for the python implementation for Nokia Series 60 phones, > and loading lots of modules in such constrained environments can > certainly slow things down. The splashscreen idea is what I want to do, > but that requires the loading to

Re: unicode question

2006-02-25 Thread Kent Johnson
Edward Loper wrote: > I would like to convert an 8-bit string (i.e., a str) into unicode, > treating chars \x00-\x7f as ascii, and converting any chars \x80-xff > into a backslashed escape sequences. I.e., I want something like this: > > >>> decode_with_backslashreplace('abc \xff\xe8 def') > u'a

Re: python-list/python-dev quoting style

2006-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-02-25, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [Aahz] >> >And who is "me", anyway? >> >> [me] >> It's hard to believe that you don't understand who "me" is in a conversation between two people, >> >> [Grant Edwards] >> >>>Since when is a Usenet news group a conversation

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GEB perhaps? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Multiple threaded download streams?

2006-02-25 Thread Bryan Olson
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: >> Use a separate thread for downloading. > > Or the twisted select-reactor. No threads needed. He's using urllib2, which does not use Twisted's select-reactor. Fortunately urllib2 downloads run fine in their own threads; no rewrite-all-the-code-as-Twisted-state-machines

Re: Import in a separate thread

2006-02-25 Thread cyberco
Well, it is for the python implementation for Nokia Series 60 phones, and loading lots of modules in such constrained environments can certainly slow things down. The splashscreen idea is what I want to do, but that requires the loading to continue in a background thread. -- http://mail.python.or

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread Steve Holden
Akihiro KAYAMA wrote: > Hi all. > > I would like to ask how I can implement string-like class using tuple > or list. Does anyone know about some example codes of pure python > implementation of string-like class? > > Because I am trying to use Python for a text processing which is > composed of a

Re: python-list/python-dev quoting style

2006-02-25 Thread Steve Holden
Some lurker calling himself "me" wrote: > [Aahz] > And who is "me", anyway? > > > [me] > >>>It's hard to believe that you don't understand who "me" is in >>>a conversation between two people, > > > [Grant Edwards] > >>Since when is a Usenet news group a conversation between two >>people?

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread John Coleman
Ron Stephens wrote: > Actually, Python has the distinction of being both a great tool > language *and* a great Zen language. That's what makes Python so cool > ;-))) > > Ron Stephens > Python411 > www.awaretek.com/python/index.html This would explain why the question is so hard to answer. It is a

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Alex Martelli
Mu. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pure python implementation of string-like class

2006-02-25 Thread and-google
Akihiro KAYAMA wrote: > As the character set is wider than UTF-16(U+10), I can't use > Python's native unicode string class. Have you tried using Python compiled in Wide Unicode mode (--enable-unicode=ucs4)? You get native UTF-32/UCS-4 strings then, which should be enough for most purposes. -

Re: Problem with Property

2006-02-25 Thread none
Steve Holden wrote: > "none <"@bag.python.org wrote: > It seems particularly odd to want to put getters and setters behind > property access. What does the extra layer buy you? The purpose is that there is more to the accessors then I posted. The setters do some 'mark dirty' bookeeping whenever

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread Ron Stephens
Actually, Python has the distinction of being both a great tool language *and* a great Zen language. That's what makes Python so cool ;-))) Ron Stephens Python411 www.awaretek.com/python/index.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Playing with modules

2006-02-25 Thread Kent Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>You're going to have to create the home.base module somewhere. If you >>want to put in that some code that basically imports another module's >>namespace into the home.base module's namespace, then that may do what >>you want. > > > Thanks, Jonathon, but I think I've tr

Re: Problem with Property

2006-02-25 Thread Peter Hansen
"none <"@bag.python.org wrote: > I'm trying to implement a simple repeateable property mechansism so I > don't have to write accessors for every single instance variable I have. ... > Any ideas? Yes, don't write accessors for every single instance variable you have. In some languages that mig

Re: Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread bonono
don't know but there is "Zen of Python". -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Problem with Property

2006-02-25 Thread Felipe Almeida Lessa
Em Sáb, 2006-02-25 às 09:14 -0500, Steve Holden escreveu: > It seems particularly odd to want to put getters and setters behind > property access. What does the extra layer buy you? I can only think of some kind of debugging. Maybe? > regards > Steve Cya, Felipe. -- "Quem excele em empregar

Re: Problem with Property

2006-02-25 Thread none
André Malo wrote: > * none wrote: > > >>classMyObject: > > [...] > > >>As you can see, the _getProperty() method gets called properly when I do >> 'o.value' but 'o.value = 123' does not seem to use the property >>stucture. I can't figure out why 'o.value=123' does not call >>_setProperty()

Re: Problem with Property

2006-02-25 Thread none
André Malo wrote: > * none wrote: > > >>classMyObject: > > [...] > > >>As you can see, the _getProperty() method gets called properly when I do >> 'o.value' but 'o.value = 123' does not seem to use the property >>stucture. I can't figure out why 'o.value=123' does not call >>_setProperty()

Re: Problem with Property

2006-02-25 Thread Steve Holden
"none <"@bag.python.org wrote: > I'm trying to implement a simple repeateable property mechansism so I > don't have to write accessors for every single instance variable I have. Please don't do that. The Python way is to use direct access to instance variables unless there's a good reason not to

Re: Multiple threaded download streams?

2006-02-25 Thread Peter Hansen
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: >>Use a separate thread for downloading. > > Or the twisted select-reactor. No threads needed. Although depending on what the GUI is like, and what platform is involved, one might still want at least a second thread for the reactor itself. -Peter -- http://mail.python

Is Python a Zen language?

2006-02-25 Thread John Coleman
Greetings, I have a rough classification of languages into 2 classes: Zen languages and tool languages. A tool language is a language that is, well, a *tool* for programming a computer. C is the prototypical tool language. Most languages in the Algol family are tool languages. Visual Basic and J

Re: Problem with Property

2006-02-25 Thread André Malo
* none wrote: > classMyObject: [...] > As you can see, the _getProperty() method gets called properly when I do > 'o.value' but 'o.value = 123' does not seem to use the property > stucture. I can't figure out why 'o.value=123' does not call > _setProperty() > > Any ideas? property only wor

Re: Import in a separate thread

2006-02-25 Thread Peter Hansen
Paul Rubin wrote: > Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>Sounds like premature optimization. Speed "things" up? What things? >>How long is it taking now to load the modules you are loading? Even >>the wxPython demo takes only a few seconds to load on a decent >>machine, and that's loading

Re: python-list/python-dev quoting style

2006-02-25 Thread Michael Hoffman
[Aahz] >>>And who is "me", anyway? [me] >>It's hard to believe that you don't understand who "me" is in >>a conversation between two people, [Grant Edwards] > Since when is a Usenet news group a conversation between two > people? Now there are three. At that time only two people had participated

A bit off topic, but good web hosting for PostgreSQL/Python?

2006-02-25 Thread dananrg
Seems like most web hosting providers support MySQL, but not PostgreSQL. I need a web hosting account that supports PostgreSQL for a particular personal project I'm working on (as well as Python, natch), since PostGIS runs only on PostgreSQL. PostGIS is a nice open source spatial database extension

Re: [Python-de] PyUNO with different Python

2006-02-25 Thread M�ta-MCI
Bonjour ! J'ai des problèmes/besoins similaires. Mais, désolé, je ne parle pas allemand... @-salutations Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyUNO with different Python

2006-02-25 Thread M�ta-MCI
h... I can run OK "hello_world.py". But only with Python-core-2.3 Python 2.4 don't run (conflict-version, or windows error). And, it's not possible to install extensions (like PyWin) to Python-core-2.3 (this destroy the same extensions in my "normal" Python 2.4) I had let down these aspect

Re: Module written in C does not repond to Ctrl-C interruption.

2006-02-25 Thread Daniel Dittmar
Bo Peng wrote: > Daniel Dittmar wrote: > >> >> You could set up your own signal handler when entering the C >> extension. This should abort the extension (tricky) and call the >> Python signal handler. > > > This can be done under linux using things in signal.h but I am not > sure whether or n

Re: Best python module for Oracle, but portable to other RDBMSes

2006-02-25 Thread dananrg
Thanks Olivier and Jonathan. Do either of you, or anyone else, know of a good open source data modeling / ER-diagram / CASE tools? I'd like to be able to build relatively simple schemas in one open source tool and be able to create a database on different platforms as needed (e.g. MySQL, PostgreSQ

Problem with Property

2006-02-25 Thread none
I'm trying to implement a simple repeateable property mechansism so I don't have to write accessors for every single instance variable I have. classMyObject: def __init__ (self): self.initialize() def initialize(self): self._value=None def _setPrope

Re: Using ElementTree to tidy up an XML string to my liking

2006-02-25 Thread Richard Townsend
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:21:59 +0100, Magnus Lycka wrote: > Concerning element names, it's your coice of course, but I agree > more and more with Guido and PEP008 that camelCase is ugly. (Not > that ALLCAPS is better...) I can see in PEP008 where it says Capitalized_Words_With_Underscores is ugly,

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