Re: What is different with Python ?

2005-06-17 Thread Andrea Griffini
On 17 Jun 2005 21:10:37 -0700, "Michele Simionato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Andrea Griffini wrote: >> Why hinder ? > ... >To be able to content himself with a shallow knowledge >is a useful skill ;) Ah! ... I agree. Currently for example my knowledge of Zope is pretty close to 0.00%, but I'm u

Re: ElementTree Namespace Prefixes

2005-06-17 Thread uche . ogbuji
Chris Spencer: """ Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Chris Spencer wrote: > > If an XML parser reads in and then writes out a document without having > > altered it, then the new document should be the same as the original. > says who? Good question. There is no One True Answer even within the XML standard

Re: tree functions daily exercise: Table

2005-06-17 Thread Xah Lee
The Perl version of the Tree function is posted. It's a bit long. Please see the code here: http://xahlee.org/tree/Table.html the choice of having a string as the first argument to Table is a bit awkward in Perl. Possibly i'll have to rewrite it so that the first argument is a function instead, wh

regarding popen function

2005-06-17 Thread praba kar
Dear All, The following way of popen function usage is wrong or not kindly give me answer regarding this time = os.popen("echo %s | tai64nlocal" % line[2]).read() Actually here I didn't use any file handler and I didn't close file handler. regards Prabahar

OO approach to decision sequence?

2005-06-17 Thread Chinook
OO approach to decision sequence? - In a recent thread (Cause for using objects?), Chris Smith replied with (in part): >If your table of photo data has several types of photos, and you find >yourself saying > >if is_mugshot: >#something >

Re: Loop until condition is true

2005-06-17 Thread Donn Cave
Quoth Remi Villatel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | What I'm trying to achieve is a conditionnal loop of which the condition | test would be done at the end so the loop is executed at least once. It's | some way the opposite of "while". | | So far, all I got is: | | while True: | some(code) |

Re: ANN: IssueTrackerProduct 0.6.9 with AJAX and Reports

2005-06-17 Thread serseri_30666
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Re: Multithreaded Python FSM (Harel State Machines)

2005-06-17 Thread Leonard J. Reder
WOW! Thanks, this looks remarkabley close to what I was talking about. Len fraca7 wrote: > Leonard J. Reder a écrit : > >> [snip] > > > http://smc.sourceforge.net/ > > It's probably not what you're looking for, but it's the closest I can > think of. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Regex for repeated character?

2005-06-17 Thread Doug Schwarz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leif K-Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do I make a regular expression which will match the same character > repeated one or more times, instead of matching repetitions of any > (possibly non-same) characters like ".+" does? In other words, I want a > patter

Loop until condition is true

2005-06-17 Thread Remi Villatel
Hi there, There is always a "nice" way to do things in Python but this time I can't find one. What I'm trying to achieve is a conditionnal loop of which the condition test would be done at the end so the loop is executed at least once. It's some way the opposite of "while". So far, all I got

Re: extreme newbie

2005-06-17 Thread John Machin
Harlin Seritt wrote: > Am I the only one who wonders this: If Python at runtime runs > very much like Java and has generally about the same speed (or faster), > then why in the world isn't Java becoming more archaic and being > steadily replaced by Python? I ask this not as a rhetorical question, >

Re: extreme newbie

2005-06-17 Thread Harlin Seritt
On 2005-06-18, cpunerd4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've guessed that python is purely an interpreted language unless its >> compiled into another language (ie. it needs python installed in order >> to run programs). Is this correct? >It's just like Java. It's compiled into bytecode and then

Re: What is different with Python ?

2005-06-17 Thread Michele Simionato
Andrea Griffini wrote: > Why hinder ? Suppose you have to accomplish a given task using a framework which is unknown to you. The manual is 1000 pages long. In order to get the job done, it is enough to study 50 pages of it. There are people with the ability to figure out very quickly which are the

Re: UML to Python/Java code generation

2005-06-17 Thread James
Peter Dembinski wrote: > "Grigoris Tsolakidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > There is tool to generate UML from Python Code... > > The best is human brain. No! It isn't. In fact, it's the worst. The brain may be fine for generating Python from UML but it is MANY MANY orders of magnitude harde

Re: Regex for repeated character?

2005-06-17 Thread Chris Smith
> "Leif" == Leif K-Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Leif> How do I make a regular expression which will match the same Leif> character repeated one or more times, instead of matching Leif> repetitions of any (possibly non-same) characters like ".+" Leif> does? In other words,

Re: Cause for using objects?

2005-06-17 Thread Chris Smith
> "John" == John Heasly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Given: [{"mugshot": "nw_gradspeaker4_0608", "width": 67.0, John> "height": 96.0}, \ {"mugshot": "nw_gradspeaker2_0608", John> "width": 67.0, "height": 96.0}, \ {"freehand": John> "b1.developreport.0614", "width": 154.0,

Re: Why is there no instancemethod builtin?

2005-06-17 Thread Steven Bethard
John Reese wrote: > I now do: > if isinstance(x, list): [snip] > > I'm not saying I do it a lot, but sometimes it's useful to write > methods with interfaces like, well, isinstance's, whose second argument > can be a single type object or a sequence of class objects. Personally, I'd just write t

Re: extreme newbie

2005-06-17 Thread Trent Mick
[Paul Rubin wrote] > Try "Dive Into Python", www.diveintopython.org (site is very slow > right now, try later). Note that "Dive Into Python" is included in the ActivePython Windows compiled help file so you can read and search it locally: http://ftp.activestate.com/ActivePython/etc/ActivePyth

ANN: Concurrence 0.0.5.2 Alpha

2005-06-17 Thread Daniel Bickett
Concurrence is a networked file editing program that enables multiple people to modify a document simultaneously. It is written entirely in python, and uses the wxPython library for the GUI and the Twisted library for networking. This marks the release of Concurrence 0.0.5.2 Alpha, and it can be f

Re: extreme newbie

2005-06-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2005-06-18, cpunerd4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've guessed that python is purely an interpreted language unless its > compiled into another language (ie. it needs python installed in order > to run programs). Is this correct? It's just like Java. It's compiled into bytecode and then the b

Re: extreme newbie

2005-06-17 Thread Paul Rubin
"cpunerd4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I stumbled onto the python language by chance and it looks like a > great language. Although from what I've read so far (which isn't much) > I've guessed that python is purely an interpreted language unless its > compiled into another language (ie. it need

Re: dynamic

2005-06-17 Thread Riccardo Galli
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:50:27 +0200, Riccardo Galli wrote: Hi. Thanks to all who answered. Scott David posted a solution (clever, scott) which was what I asked for, but I noticed some oddness while using it (about __init__). I also understood that this way should be avoided. I ended up using a p

Re: extreme newbie

2005-06-17 Thread Hsuan-Yeh Chang
cpunerd4 wrote: > Hello programmers, > I stumbled onto the python language by chance and it looks like a > great language. Although from what I've read so far (which isn't much) > I've guessed that python is purely an interpreted language unless its > compiled into another language (ie. it needs

extreme newbie

2005-06-17 Thread cpunerd4
Hello programmers, I stumbled onto the python language by chance and it looks like a great language. Although from what I've read so far (which isn't much) I've guessed that python is purely an interpreted language unless its compiled into another language (ie. it needs python installed in order

Re: What language to manipulate text files

2005-06-17 Thread ross
I tried Bash on Cygwin, but did not know enough about setting up the environment to get it working. Instead I got an excellent answer from alt.msdos.batch which used the FOR IN DO command. My next job is to learn Python. Ross -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: exceptions considered harmful

2005-06-17 Thread Roy Smith
"H. S. Lahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Never throw an exception. And if someone throws one at you, > > catch it immediately and don't pass it on. > > IMO, this is generally fine advice. Languages provide exception > handlers so that applications have a chance to respond gracefully

Re: Why is there no instancemethod builtin?

2005-06-17 Thread John Reese
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:40:56 -0600, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Reese wrote: >> I now do: >> >> if isinstance(x, list): >> >> It is my understanding that this is what people do nowadays. > > I wouldn't go that far. I don't have an isinstance check for lists > anywhere in my entire cod

Re: What is different with Python ?

2005-06-17 Thread Andrea Griffini
On 17 Jun 2005 06:35:58 -0700, "Michele Simionato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Claudio Grondi: ... >>From my >>overall experience I infer, that it is not only possible >>but has sometimes even better chances for success, >>because one is not overloaded with the ballast of deep >>understanding whic

Re: What is different with Python ?

2005-06-17 Thread Roy Smith
Andrea Griffini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Add to the picture the quality of [C++] compile time error messages > from the primitive template technology and even compile time errors > often look like riddles; Yeah, but what they lack in quality, they make up for in quantity. > if you forget a "

Re: Alternative Ways to install Python 2.4?

2005-06-17 Thread Peter A.Schott
Only thing I know to watch out for is they don't include SSL support - something the Python 2.4.1 msi file does include. I needed that for something I'm working on and had to install 2.4.1 over ActivePython to get the SSL support. -Pete David Van Mosselbeen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James wr

Re: whos -- a function listing objects

2005-06-17 Thread Fernando Perez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That is nice. I didn't know iPython can do whos. Will try it. > > iPython seems to infinitely configurable. Hope it will not suck too > much of my time into it. It is. It probably will. It did to me :) At least, I hope it will have been time well spent. Best, f

What makes an object uncopyable?

2005-06-17 Thread tron . thomas
I am trying to make a copy of a certain Python object using the copy.copy() function. When I try to perform this operation I get an error like the following: copy.Error: un(shallow)copyable object of type ... What factors determine whether an object can be copied? -- http://mail.python.org/mai

Re: Why is there no instancemethod builtin?

2005-06-17 Thread Steven Bethard
John Reese wrote: > I now do: > > if isinstance(x, list): > > It is my understanding that this is what people do nowadays. I wouldn't go that far. I don't have an isinstance check for lists anywhere in my entire codebase. Why do you think you need to check to see if something is of type

Re: Overcoming herpetophobia (or what's up w/ Python scopes)?

2005-06-17 Thread Jordan Rastrick
Python's current scoping differs from that in versions 2.1 and earlier - statically nested (lexical) scoping was introduced under PEP 227. I don't know what differences, if any, remain between Python's and Perl's scoping rules, or if there is any tutorial concerning Python scoping thats aimed spec

Re: ANN: IssueTrackerProduct 0.6.9 with AJAX and Reports

2005-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oops! John points out that comp.lang.python.announce is where these things belong. Sorry guys. My fault. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is different with Python ?

2005-06-17 Thread Andrea Griffini
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:40:47 -0400, Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >And the fact that he's teaching C++ instead of just C seems to go >against your own theories anyway... (though I realize you weren't >necessarily putting him forth as a support for your position). He's strongly advocat

Re: Why is there no instancemethod builtin?

2005-06-17 Thread John Machin
John Reese wrote: > Why hello there ha ha. [snip] Just looking through the types declared in types, the > following are builtins: > [snip] > ... NoneType, > NotImplementedType > > And the following are not: > [snip] > ... NoneType, NotImplementedType > > So for any in the latter batch, I have

Re: ISO authoritative Python ref

2005-06-17 Thread bill
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I have to learn Python in a hurry. My apologies. I found what I needed. I don't understand it how I missed it in my first round of searching. Thanks, bill -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ISO authoritative Python ref

2005-06-17 Thread Paul Rubin
bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have to learn Python in a hurry. I learn fastest by reading the > specs/reference manual, or something like it (e.g. "C: A Reference > Manual", by Harbison and Steel). > > Is there a Python book that fits this description? The official reference manual is at:

Re: Is Python Suitable for Large Find & Replace Operations?

2005-06-17 Thread John Machin
rbt wrote: > On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 09:18 -0400, Peter Hansen wrote: > >>rbt wrote: >> >>>The script is too long to post in its entirety. In short, I open the >>>files, do a binary read (in 1MB chunks for ease of memory usage) on them *ONE* MB? What are the higher-ups constraining you to run this

ISO authoritative Python ref

2005-06-17 Thread bill
I have to learn Python in a hurry. I learn fastest by reading the specs/reference manual, or something like it (e.g. "C: A Reference Manual", by Harbison and Steel). Is there a Python book that fits this description? Many thanks in advance, bill P.S. I avoid tutorials like the plague, and I

Re: What is different with Python ?

2005-06-17 Thread Andrea Griffini
On 17 Jun 2005 05:30:25 -0700, "Michele Simionato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I fail to see the relationship between your reply and my original >message. >I was complaining about the illusion that in the old time people were >more >interested in programming than now. Instead your reply is about l

Re: Multiple instances of a python program

2005-06-17 Thread Rahul
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:47:10 -0700, Rahul wrote: > > > Hi. > > I am part of a group in my univ where we organize a programming > > contest. In this contest we have a UDP based server. The server > > simulates a game and each contestant is to develop a team of virtual > > pl

Re: Please help me understand this code....

2005-06-17 Thread Jordan Rastrick
The : is used in Python for slice notation, which is explained pretty thoroughly in the Python tutorial, specifically at: http://www.python.org/doc/2.4/tut/node5.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Multiple instances of a python program

2005-06-17 Thread Rahul
Hi. I will look into it..thanks rahul Jeremy Sanders wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:47:10 -0700, Rahul wrote: > > > If you have a python script and you want that 75 copies of the script be > > run simultaneously how will you do it? Is there anyway to do so without > > running 75 copies of the pyt

Re: Embedding Python

2005-06-17 Thread Stefan Seefeld
Sébastien Boisgérault wrote: > Hi, > > Imagine that you have a PyObject pointer 'object' > pointing to a Python integer ... let's say 42. > > How would do you attach the variable "answer" to > it so that the code > > PyRun_SimpleString("print answer"); > > works as expected ? > > My current so

Re: whos -- a function listing objects

2005-06-17 Thread benyang22
That is nice. I didn't know iPython can do whos. Will try it. iPython seems to infinitely configurable. Hope it will not suck too much of my time into it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Why is there no instancemethod builtin?

2005-06-17 Thread John Reese
Why hello there ha ha. I have got in the habit of testing the types of variables with isinstance and the builtin type names instead of using the types module, as was the style back around Python 2.1. That is, rather than if type(x) == types.ListType: I now do: if isinstance(x, list): It

Re: Back to the future - python to C++ advice wanted

2005-06-17 Thread D H
George Sakkis wrote: > During the last 18 months or so I have indulged in the joy of learning > and using python for almost everything, but I may have to go back to > C/C++ at work. Suddenly I found myself transliterating (or translating > at least) common python idioms and patterns, looking for li

Re: whos -- a function listing objects

2005-06-17 Thread benyang22
whos.py as a module would not work for global scope, as it hides the function whos in the module scope. I have fixed the string bug. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ANN: IssueTrackerProduct 0.6.9 with AJAX and Reports

2005-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(I don't know if this is the right place to make an announcement but I've seen other projects doing it so I thought why not?) I've now released version 0.6.9 of the IssueTrackerProduct http://www.issuetrackerproduct.com/News/0.6.9 It's a issue/bug tracker built on top of Zope (Python) that is kno

Re: What is different with Python ?

2005-06-17 Thread D H
Peter Hansen wrote: >> But apparently some guru I greatly respect thinks so >> (I'm not kidding, http://www.spellen.org/youcandoit/). > > > With respect to the author, and an understanding that there is probably > much that didn't go into his self-description (add "about.htm" to the > above URL

Re: Back to the future - python to C++ advice wanted

2005-06-17 Thread Bill McClain
On 2005-06-17, George Sakkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I wonder what have others who have gone the same path done and > learned in similar situations. How one can avoid the frustration of > having to work with a low level language once he has seen the Light ? This project: http://ast

Re: case/switch statement?

2005-06-17 Thread D H
Peter Hansen wrote: > D H wrote: > >> Peter Hansen wrote: >> >>> With a case statement, on the other hand, you *know* that it must be >>> just simple conditionals (a series of x == some_constant tests), so >>> you don't need to look at all the cases, just the one that interests >>> you. >> >> >

Re: smtplib and TLS

2005-06-17 Thread Paul Rubin
"Matthias Kluwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The server accepts and delivers my messages, but the last command > raises > > socket.sslerror: (8, 'EOF occurred in violation of protocol') > > Did I miss something? Any hint is welcome. Looks like the module didn't send an TLS Close Notify message

Re: add new modules?

2005-06-17 Thread Dennis Clark
Thanks all, My problem came when I set PYTHONHOME, apparently that is a bad thing (in this case). I know that I set it to the directory that python was in, but something about that was "bad". now everything works. DLC Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : Dennis Clark wrote: : > This is a

Please help me understand this code....

2005-06-17 Thread randy
Hello, I am a programmer, but not a python guy. So I am a little confused with the following python code. Specifically what does the ":" do in the array arithmetic? new_page = map[opage] old_page = map[opage^1] center = new_page[1:-1,1:-1] origcenter = array(center) center[:]

Re: pysqlite - Checking the existance of a table

2005-06-17 Thread Matthias Kluwe
Simply use the internal table SQLite_Master: select name from SQLite_Master will return all existing tables. Regards, Matthias -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Shortcut to initialize variables

2005-06-17 Thread Andrew
Oops, I probably should have tried searching the list first. My background is strictly academic. I was switching languages so often I never got really familiar with any of them. Maybe C for a while, but I've forgotten alot. I'm hoping python will be the last language I ever need. :) I don't know wh

Re: add new modules?

2005-06-17 Thread Robert Kern
Dennis Clark wrote: > This is a total newb question, you have been warned... > > I've been all over the www.python.org site and googled, but I've not > found just how to add new modules. I've tried setting PYTHONPATH, > I've tried putting the new module directories into the site-packages > direct

smtplib and TLS

2005-06-17 Thread Matthias Kluwe
Hi! After getting a @gmail.com address, I recognized I had to use TLS in my python scripts using smtplib in order to get mail to the smtp.gmail.com server. Things work well so far, apart from an unexpected error. Here's my sample code: import smtplib server = smtplib.SMTP('smtp.gmail.com', 587)

Re: Shortcut to initialize variables

2005-06-17 Thread Steven Bethard
Andrew wrote: > Newb here... For one of my programs I want to initialize a variable for > each letter of the alphabet. For example, a,b,c = 0,0,0. Why do you want to do this? This looks like a particularly bad idea to me. Can't you just use a dict of the "variables", e.g.: py> d = dict.fromkeys

Re: add new modules?

2005-06-17 Thread Kent Johnson
Dennis Clark wrote: > This is a total newb question, you have been warned... > > I've been all over the www.python.org site and googled, but I've not > found just how to add new modules. I've tried setting PYTHONPATH, > I've tried putting the new module directories into the site-packages > direct

RE: how to operate the excel by python?

2005-06-17 Thread Hughes, Chad O
Title: Message I have posed a more complete answer to your question, however, it is quite a large and It is awaiting approval.  For now, xlRight = -4152.  You can find this out by opening up Excel and typing the ALT-F11 combination.  From there use the ObjectBrowser.  For example if you type

Re: Shortcut to initialize variables

2005-06-17 Thread Kent Johnson
Andrew wrote: > Newb here... For one of my programs I want to initialize a variable for > each letter of the alphabet. For example, a,b,c = 0,0,0. I don't think > this works, but I'm wondering if I can do something similar to this: > > from string import ascii_lowercase > > class Blah: > def

add new modules?

2005-06-17 Thread Dennis Clark
This is a total newb question, you have been warned... I've been all over the www.python.org site and googled, but I've not found just how to add new modules. I've tried setting PYTHONPATH, I've tried putting the new module directories into the site-packages directory, I've tried creating the .pt

how to operate the excel by python?

2005-06-17 Thread Kevin P. Coffey
Question please:   In the post, "How to operate the excel by python," where did you find the codes for HorizontalAlignment and VerticalAlignment (Center = -4108 and Bottom = -4107)?  I need the code for HorizontalAlignment = xlRight.  Is there a table somewhere that shows these codes?   Tha

Shortcut to initialize variables

2005-06-17 Thread Andrew
Newb here... For one of my programs I want to initialize a variable for each letter of the alphabet. For example, a,b,c = 0,0,0. I don't think this works, but I'm wondering if I can do something similar to this: from string import ascii_lowercase class Blah: def __init__(self): for le

Re: Overcoming herpetophobia (or what's up w/ Python scopes)?

2005-06-17 Thread Steve M
This link seems to be about Closures in Python, but I am not feeling sharp enough at the moment to evaluate the correctness of the discussion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_programming_language#Closures As others have said, you might get more useful responses if you can elaborate upon what

RE: Overcoming herpetophobia (or what's up w/ Python scopes)?

2005-06-17 Thread Hughes, Chad O
Thanks, I will keep that in mind. Chad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven D'Aprano Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:06 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: RE: Overcoming herpetophobia (or what's up w/ Python scopes)? On Fri, 17 Jun 2

Re: whos -- a function listing objects

2005-06-17 Thread Fernando Perez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have been a long time Matlab user. I Python, I miss Matlab's whos > command. you might want to look at ipython. whos, and a bit more come for free: planck[~]> ipython -pylab Python 2.3.4 (#1, Feb 2 2005, 12:11:53) Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more

RE: Overcoming herpetophobia (or what's up w/ Python scopes)?

2005-06-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:22:05 -0700, Hughes, Chad O wrote: > Are you sure about the lower-case thing. The original post states > "Perlhead" and there are many instances at www.Perl.com where O'REILLY > spells perl as Perl. I did say "usually" :-) But in fact it seems that the creator of Perl/per

Re: Help implementing an idea

2005-06-17 Thread rh0dium
Try this.. #!/usr/bin/env python # Upload a file to a FTP server from sys import argv, exit from ftplib import FTP if len(argv) != 6: print 'Incorrect number of parameters' print 'USAGE: upload.py ' exit(0) server = argv[1] username = argv[2] password = argv[3] upfile = argv

Re: Help implementing an idea

2005-06-17 Thread utabintarbo
Take a look at: http://dirssync.sourceforge.net/ See if that gives you any direction. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Overcoming herpetophobia (or what's up w/ Python scopes)?

2005-06-17 Thread Hughes, Chad O
Are you sure about the lower-case thing. The original post states "Perlhead" and there are many instances at www.Perl.com where O'REILLY spells perl as Perl. Chad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven D'Aprano Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005

Programmatically bring a window to front

2005-06-17 Thread zren
Hi, I wonder if anyone knows how to programmatically make a python window get focus and bring it to front. Here a python window means the Tkinter Toplevel widget. Thanks. Zhen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

pysqlite - Checking the existance of a table

2005-06-17 Thread rh0dium
Hi all, I am starting to play with pysqlite, and would like to know if there is a function to determine if a table exists or not. Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Back to the future - python to C++ advice wanted

2005-06-17 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bruno modulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >George Sakkis wrote: . . . >> learned in similar situations. How one can avoid the frustration of >> having to work with a low level language once he ha

Re: Overcoming herpetophobia (or what's up w/ Python scopes)?

2005-06-17 Thread Kent Johnson
kj wrote: > I'm a Perlhead (there, I said it). Years ago I made a genuine > attempt to learn Python, but my intense disappointed with the way > Python deals with scopes ultimately sapped my enthusiasm. I couldn't > live without closures and without the fine control over scopes that > Perl provide

RE: Overcoming herpetophobia (or what's up w/ Python scopes)?

2005-06-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:36:55 -0700, Hughes, Chad O wrote: > I am very familiar with Python, but I don't know Pearl. The language is *always* spelt without the "a", and usually all in lower-case: perl. Now that I've taught you everything I know about perl, you can be an expert like me -- Steve

Re: Multiple instances of a python program

2005-06-17 Thread Jeremy Sanders
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:47:10 -0700, Rahul wrote: > If you have a python script and you want that 75 copies of the script be > run simultaneously how will you do it? Is there anyway to do so without > running 75 copies of the python interpreter simultaneously? If you're running on Linux (and other

Re: Multiple instances of a python program

2005-06-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:47:10 -0700, Rahul wrote: > Hi. > I am part of a group in my univ where we organize a programming > contest. In this contest we have a UDP based server. The server > simulates a game and each contestant is to develop a team of virtual > players. Each team is composed of 75 s

RE: Overcoming herpetophobia (or what's up w/ Python scopes)?

2005-06-17 Thread Hughes, Chad O
I am very familiar with Python, but I don't know Pearl. In order to answer your question, you will have to tell me about your statement, "I couldn't live without closures and without the fine control over scopes that Pearl provides." I don't know what these things are to Pearl. If you tell me wha

Re: UML to Python/Java code generation

2005-06-17 Thread Peter Dembinski
"Grigoris Tsolakidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is tool to generate UML from Python Code... The best is human brain. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Overcoming herpetophobia (or what's up w/ Python scopes)?

2005-06-17 Thread kj
I'm a Perlhead (there, I said it). Years ago I made a genuine attempt to learn Python, but my intense disappointed with the way Python deals with scopes ultimately sapped my enthusiasm. I couldn't live without closures and without the fine control over scopes that Perl provides. I've been wan

Re: Dealing with marketing types...

2005-06-17 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kay Schluehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Sorry, Cameron, if I twist meanings. > >Thomas argues that Python programmers are more expensive than Java >ones. But if one needs more Java programmers to fit into the project >plan one needs probably more managenment/admistr

Help implementing an idea

2005-06-17 Thread Nicholas . Vaidyanathan
Well, I'm a total python n00b, but I was playing around with exception handling yesterday, and was stricken by how incredibly easy it is to use the op system to create nice scripts... I did the following: import sys lines = sys.stdin.readlines() lines.sort() for stuff in lines: print stuff ,

Re: Back to the future - python to C++ advice wanted

2005-06-17 Thread bruno modulix
George Sakkis wrote: > During the last 18 months or so I have indulged in the joy of learning > and using python for almost everything, but I may have to go back to > C/C++ at work. (snip) > So, I wonder what have others who have gone the same path done and > learned in similar situations. How one

Re: How should threads be terminated? (related to 'Help with thread related tracebacks')

2005-06-17 Thread Maxwell Hammer
Thanks Brian & Martin for the links. I actually found another good one: http://linuxgazette.net/107/pai.html Cheers. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Embedding Python

2005-06-17 Thread =?iso-8859-1?q?S=E9bastien_Boisg=E9rault?=
Hi, Imagine that you have a PyObject pointer 'object' pointing to a Python integer ... let's say 42. How would do you attach the variable "answer" to it so that the code PyRun_SimpleString("print answer"); works as expected ? My current solution is: __main__ = PyImport_ImportModule("__main__"

Re: How should threads be terminated? (related to 'Help with thread related tracebacks')

2005-06-17 Thread Maxwell Hammer
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:20:23 -0400, Peter Hansen wrote: > Maxwell Hammer wrote: >> This is related to an earlier post 'Help with thread related >> tracebacks'...for which I have had no feedback yet :-( > > If the question was well formulated, and it's been more than a couple of > days, you shoul

Re: Multiple instances of a python program

2005-06-17 Thread Rahul
Daniel Dittmar wrote: > Rahul wrote: > > Hi. > > I am part of a group in my univ where we organize a programming > > contest. In this contest we have a UDP based server. The server > > simulates a game and each contestant is to develop a team of virtual > > players. Each team is composed of 75 simi

Re: Python & firewall control (Win32)

2005-06-17 Thread Tim Williams
> - Original Message - > From: "Tom Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > AIUI, you won't be stopping and restarting ipfw - the ipfw command just > > modifies the ruleset being used by a continuously-running instance of the > > ipfw kernel module or daemon or whatever. How long it takes

Re: Is Python Suitable for Large Find & Replace Operations?

2005-06-17 Thread rbt
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 09:18 -0400, Peter Hansen wrote: > rbt wrote: > > The script is too long to post in its entirety. In short, I open the > > files, do a binary read (in 1MB chunks for ease of memory usage) on them > > before placing that read into a variable and that in turn into a list > > tha

Re: utf8 and ftplib

2005-06-17 Thread John Roth
"Richard Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:06:50 -0600, "John Roth" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> "Richard Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Hi there, >> > >> > I'm having a problem with unicode f

Re: What is different with Python ?

2005-06-17 Thread Michele Simionato
Claudio Grondi: >I am personally biased towards trying to understand >anything as deep as possible and in the past was quite >certain, that one can not achieve good results >without a deep insight into the underlying details. >I have now to admit, that I was just wrong. From my >overall experience

Back to the future - python to C++ advice wanted

2005-06-17 Thread George Sakkis
During the last 18 months or so I have indulged in the joy of learning and using python for almost everything, but I may have to go back to C/C++ at work. Suddenly I found myself transliterating (or translating at least) common python idioms and patterns, looking for libraries to replace python's "

Re: Unbound names in __del__

2005-06-17 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > > What's your use case for del? Every instance represents a "session" to a measurement instrument. After the instance is deleted, the session should be closed to free resources. If the program exists, this is actually not necessary,

Re: thread.start_new_thread question

2005-06-17 Thread Konstantin Veretennicov
On 6/17/05, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi KV, > > Here's a site that provides an easy, beginners example of how to do > threading. You might find this useful too... :-) > > http://www.codesampler.com/python.htm > (Look for the "Spawning Threads" section.) Thank you, but that doesn't a

Re: Is Python Suitable for Large Find & Replace Operations?

2005-06-17 Thread Peter Hansen
rbt wrote: > The script is too long to post in its entirety. In short, I open the > files, do a binary read (in 1MB chunks for ease of memory usage) on them > before placing that read into a variable and that in turn into a list > that I then apply the following re to > > ss = re.compile(r'\b\d{3}

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