Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Noel Jones
On 3/15/2010 6:26 PM, Erik Logtenberg wrote: This whitelist is 1409 records long, so indeed as you say very small. I suppose I could download it and host it locally. Apparently AXFR is not allowed, but plain text HTTP download is, so that's good enough. Then I would only need an efficient and ro

Re: Can't create maps via the proxy service

2010-03-15 Thread Noel Jones
On 3/15/2010 7:58 PM, roger pedrol wrote: Hi all, Maybe not related to postfix but Ubuntu dpkg but trying to install SPF I came across this problem: Configuring postfix (2.5.1-2ubuntu1.2) ... Running newaliases postalias: fatal: can't create maps via the proxy service dpkg: error al procesar p

Can't create maps via the proxy service

2010-03-15 Thread roger pedrol
Hi all, Maybe not related to postfix but Ubuntu dpkg but trying to install SPF I came across this problem: Configuring postfix (2.5.1-2ubuntu1.2) ... Running newaliases postalias: fatal: can't create maps via the proxy service dpkg: error al procesar postfix (--configure): el subproceso post-

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > Erik Logtenberg: > > > > >> However in the case where the whitelist is (completely) unavailable for > > >> some period of time, I still think that my suggestion applies, don't you > > >> agree? > > > > > > No. It is assumed that you use a sufficiently reliable DNSWL. Ideally > >

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Erik Logtenberg
On 03/15/2010 11:48 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Erik Logtenberg put forth on 3/15/2010 11:16 AM: >> Hi, >> >> Is there a possibility to use a DNS-based RBL whitelist in Postfix? In >> The Netherlands we have an NL-Whitelist, which contains the IP's of all >> major ISP's. By using this whitelist one

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Wietse Venema
Erik Logtenberg: > > >> However in the case where the whitelist is (completely) unavailable for > >> some period of time, I still think that my suggestion applies, don't you > >> agree? > > > > No. It is assumed that you use a sufficiently reliable DNSWL. Ideally > > a local mirror, and if it bec

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Erik Logtenberg put forth on 3/15/2010 11:16 AM: > Hi, > > Is there a possibility to use a DNS-based RBL whitelist in Postfix? In > The Netherlands we have an NL-Whitelist, which contains the IP's of all > major ISP's. By using this whitelist one can make sure that accidental > automatic blacklist

Re: Redefining myhosname to a location outside of main.cf

2010-03-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Wietse Venema put forth on 3/15/2010 10:22 AM: >> Since this does not work, is there an available option to move >> myhostname out of main.cf and into another file name or type? > > To set a fixed Postfix name, set the right hostname in main.cf, or > set the right hostname in the kernel. If you

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Erik Logtenberg
>> However in the case where the whitelist is (completely) unavailable for >> some period of time, I still think that my suggestion applies, don't you >> agree? > > No. It is assumed that you use a sufficiently reliable DNSWL. Ideally > a local mirror, and if it becomes unavailable you use approp

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:57:11PM +0100, Erik Logtenberg wrote: > However in the case where the whitelist is (completely) unavailable for > some period of time, I still think that my suggestion applies, don't you > agree? No. It is assumed that you use a sufficiently reliable DNSWL. Ideally a lo

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Erik Logtenberg
On 03/15/2010 10:49 PM, Victor Duchovni wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:41:02PM +0100, Erik Logtenberg wrote: > >> However the DEFER_IF_REJECT flag makes _all_ mail that would normally be >> rejected (quite much) be deferred, which imho is quite a sacrifice to >> make. (if I understand correct

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:41:02PM +0100, Erik Logtenberg wrote: > However the DEFER_IF_REJECT flag makes _all_ mail that would normally be > rejected (quite much) be deferred, which imho is quite a sacrifice to > make. (if I understand correctly) No, this would apply only to failed DNSWL lookups

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Erik Logtenberg
On 03/15/2010 10:37 PM, Victor Duchovni wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 05:15:59PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: > >> Victor Duchovni: >>> With explicit DNSWL lookups, indeed "defer_if_reject" is acceptable, since >>> the DWL is operated locally or by a competent provider and persistent temp >>> fa

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Erik Logtenberg
>> One of the design issues is what to do if the whitelist query tempfails? >> if postfix tempfails, then you defer all mail (or a large part). if you >> pass, then you get "non deterministic" behaviour. > > When a DNS blacklist lookup fails, the worst that can happen is unwanted > mail is accepte

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 05:15:59PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: > Victor Duchovni: > > With explicit DNSWL lookups, indeed "defer_if_reject" is acceptable, since > > the DWL is operated locally or by a competent provider and persistent temp > > failure of lookups is less likely. So it seems to me t

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Wietse Venema
Victor Duchovni: > With explicit DNSWL lookups, indeed "defer_if_reject" is acceptable, since > the DWL is operated locally or by a competent provider and persistent temp > failure of lookups is less likely. So it seems to me that this has cleaner > semantics than "check_client_access" with name-ba

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Noel Jones
On 3/15/2010 3:39 PM, Victor Duchovni wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:29:46PM -0500, Noel Jones wrote: I suppose the "failed DNS whitelist lookup" problem could be mostly avoided if the DEFER_IF_REJECT flag was raised on lookup failure. That would allow known good mail to pass, and rejected

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:29:46PM -0500, Noel Jones wrote: > I suppose the "failed DNS whitelist lookup" problem could be mostly avoided > if the DEFER_IF_REJECT flag was raised on lookup failure. That would allow > known good mail to pass, and rejected mail would get a safety net. IIRC > la

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Noel Jones
On 3/15/2010 3:16 PM, mouss wrote: One of the design issues is what to do if the whitelist query tempfails? if postfix tempfails, then you defer all mail (or a large part). if you pass, then you get "non deterministic" behaviour. When a DNS blacklist lookup fails, the worst that can happen is

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread mouss
Erik Logtenberg a écrit : >[snip] > Thanks for your reply. I see that I could construct a policy service to > do this, but it seems simpler and much more efficient to let postfix do > this natively. It already has al the DNS-resolving code and whatnot, I > would guess it shouldn't take much more t

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Wietse Venema
Erik Logtenberg: > >> Is there a possibility to use a DNS-based RBL whitelist in Postfix? In > >> The Netherlands we have an NL-Whitelist, which contains the IP's of all > >> major ISP's. By using this whitelist one can make sure that accidental > >> automatic blacklisting won't disrupt regular ema

Re: How to run postfix on another port?

2010-03-15 Thread Erik Logtenberg
On 03/15/2010 08:44 PM, Wilberth Pérez wrote: > someone knows how to run postfix on another port in solaris ? If by "port" you mean "the port smtpd listens on" (there are some more ports and sockets that postfix uses for different tasks), then take a look at your master.cf file, and change: smtp

How to run postfix on another port?

2010-03-15 Thread Wilberth Pérez
someone knows how to run postfix on another port in solaris ? -- LCC Wilberth de Jesús Pérez Segura CCSA- Administración de Servicios y Seguridad de las TI Correo: wilberth.pe...@uady.mx Universidad Autónoma de Yucatán Secretaría General

Re: TLS with openssl 0.9.8m

2010-03-15 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 04:34:41PM +0100, Richard van den Berg wrote: > Mar 14 08:47:04 majoron postfix/smtpd[31776]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3 > read client certificate A Various SMTP clients are known to mis-handle requests for client certificates. You have not posted your "postconf -n" outpu

Re: Local E-Mail checking?

2010-03-15 Thread Noel Jones
On 3/15/2010 11:24 AM, Slack-Moehrle wrote: Hi All, I would like to setup my MacBook (10.6.2) to check e-mail accounts and fetch the mail down locally so I can then check it. Can anyone provide advice or a tutorial on how to do this? Best -Jason The best way to do that is with a dedicated m

Re: postfix and mailman

2010-03-15 Thread mouss
David Mehler a écrit : > Hello, > I'm running a CentOS 5.4 machine and atempting to get postfix and > mailman going on it. This was working prior to a complete system > upgrade about 9 months ago, now it isn't, I'm getting an error 554 > user unknown message when the user atempts to send back the >

Re: Implementing SPF in Postfix

2010-03-15 Thread Erik Logtenberg
On 03/15/2010 06:18 PM, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote: > Running Postfix as a mail gateway, version 2.6.5 and am finally getting > around to implementing SPF in Postfix. I thought the TXT record in DNS > would suffice which is how I have been running it. Please note that according to RFC4408 (SP

Re: TLS with openssl 0.9.8m

2010-03-15 Thread mouss
Richard van den Berg a écrit : > Is anyone here successfully using self signed server certificates in > combination with openssl 0.9.8m ? I just upgraded from 0.9.8k and I am > getting these errors whenever a starttls is received: > works on FreeBSD: $ uname FreeBSD $ postconf mail_version mail_v

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Erik Logtenberg
>> Is there a possibility to use a DNS-based RBL whitelist in Postfix? In >> The Netherlands we have an NL-Whitelist, which contains the IP's of all >> major ISP's. By using this whitelist one can make sure that accidental >> automatic blacklisting won't disrupt regular email traffic. >> >> I had s

Re: Implementing SPF in Postfix

2010-03-15 Thread Wietse Venema
Security Admin (NetSec): > Running Postfix as a mail gateway, version 2.6.5 and am finally > getting around to implementing SPF in Postfix. I thought the > TXT record in DNS would suffice which is how I have been running > it. > > Found this how-to link http://www.howtoforge.com/postfix_spf > >

Re: Implementing SPF in Postfix

2010-03-15 Thread Noel Jones
On 3/15/2010 12:18 PM, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote: Running Postfix as a mail gateway, version 2.6.5 and am finally getting around to implementing SPF in Postfix. I thought the TXT record in DNS would suffice which is how I have been running it. Found this how-to link http://www.howtoforge.com

Implementing SPF in Postfix

2010-03-15 Thread Security Admin (NetSec)
Running Postfix as a mail gateway, version 2.6.5 and am finally getting around to implementing SPF in Postfix. I thought the TXT record in DNS would suffice which is how I have been running it. Found this how-to link http://www.howtoforge.com/postfix_spf Is this the proper way or is another r

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread corpus.defero
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 11:23 -0500, Noel Jones wrote: > On 3/15/2010 11:16 AM, Erik Logtenberg wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there a possibility to use a DNS-based RBL whitelist in Postfix? In > > The Netherlands we have an NL-Whitelist, which contains the IP's of all > > major ISP's. By using this whit

Re: Redefining myhosname to a location outside of main.cf

2010-03-15 Thread VR
On 3/15/2010 11:22 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: VR: On a test box in Postfix 2.5.5 I tried putting myhost.domain.tld in /etc/postfix/myhostname.cf and then defined myhostname = /etc/postfix/myhostname.cf in main.cf. Perhaps surprisingly, Postfix actually behaves as documented. Where does Postfix d

Local E-Mail checking?

2010-03-15 Thread Slack-Moehrle
Hi All, I would like to setup my MacBook (10.6.2) to check e-mail accounts and fetch the mail down locally so I can then check it. Can anyone provide advice or a tutorial on how to do this? Best -Jason

Re: RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Noel Jones
On 3/15/2010 11:16 AM, Erik Logtenberg wrote: Hi, Is there a possibility to use a DNS-based RBL whitelist in Postfix? In The Netherlands we have an NL-Whitelist, which contains the IP's of all major ISP's. By using this whitelist one can make sure that accidental automatic blacklisting won't dis

Re: Writing custom delivery agent to track bounces

2010-03-15 Thread Noel Jones
On 3/15/2010 8:59 AM, Fitzgerald wrote: Hi there! Currently I am looking for a way to implement a bounce handler and I would like some 'best practices' advice. I have very little experience in using postfix but I came up with some ideas and want to get some comments on those. An application sen

RBL whitelist?

2010-03-15 Thread Erik Logtenberg
Hi, Is there a possibility to use a DNS-based RBL whitelist in Postfix? In The Netherlands we have an NL-Whitelist, which contains the IP's of all major ISP's. By using this whitelist one can make sure that accidental automatic blacklisting won't disrupt regular email traffic. I had something lik

Re: Untrusted issuer

2010-03-15 Thread Patric Falinder
Noel Jones skrev 2010-03-15 16:53: On 3/15/2010 9:00 AM, Patric Falinder wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt skrev 2010-03-15 14:35: * Patric Falinder: certificate verification failed for remote.example.se[85.197.XXX.XXX]:25: untrusted issuer /CN=AAA-SBS-PYRAMID-CA You don'T trust the CA, thus the cert

Re: Untrusted issuer

2010-03-15 Thread Noel Jones
On 3/15/2010 9:00 AM, Patric Falinder wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt skrev 2010-03-15 14:35: * Patric Falinder: certificate verification failed for remote.example.se[85.197.XXX.XXX]:25: untrusted issuer /CN=AAA-SBS-PYRAMID-CA You don'T trust the CA, thus the cert is untrusted. Yes but can I someho

Re: TLS with openssl 0.9.8m

2010-03-15 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Sunday, March 14, 2010 4:34 PM +0100 Richard van den Berg wrote: Is anyone here successfully using self signed server certificates in combination with openssl 0.9.8m ? I just upgraded from 0.9.8k and I am getting these errors whenever a starttls is received: This is all over port 25 with

Re: Redefining myhosname to a location outside of main.cf

2010-03-15 Thread Wietse Venema
VR: > On a test box in Postfix 2.5.5 I tried putting myhost.domain.tld in > /etc/postfix/myhostname.cf and then defined myhostname = > /etc/postfix/myhostname.cf in main.cf. Perhaps surprisingly, Postfix actually behaves as documented. Where does Postfix documentation say that myhostname underst

Redefining myhosname to a location outside of main.cf

2010-03-15 Thread VR
On a test box in Postfix 2.5.5 I tried putting myhost.domain.tld in /etc/postfix/myhostname.cf and then defined myhostname = /etc/postfix/myhostname.cf in main.cf. Since this does not work, is there an available option to move myhostname out of main.cf and into another file name or type?

change hostname based on relay

2010-03-15 Thread Manuel Mely
Hi, Is there a way to change my hostname based on the relay i'm using? For example, i have postfix servers in an ha config that relays to three differents mail service providers, this providers restricts me in what helo i have to use; so if i'm using ISP1 as relay, i must identify as helo1.mydoma

Re: Writing custom delivery agent to track bounces

2010-03-15 Thread Stéphane MERLE
Hi, Fitzgerald a écrit : Hi there! Currently I am looking for a way to implement a bounce handler and I would like some 'best practices' advice. I have very little experience in using postfix but I came up with some ideas and want to get some comments on those. An application sends out a bunch

Re: Untrusted issuer

2010-03-15 Thread Patric Falinder
Ralf Hildebrandt skrev 2010-03-15 14:35: * Patric Falinder: certificate verification failed for remote.example.se[85.197.XXX.XXX]:25: untrusted issuer /CN=AAA-SBS-PYRAMID-CA You don'T trust the CA, thus the cert is untrusted. Yes but can I somehow make it trusted?

Writing custom delivery agent to track bounces

2010-03-15 Thread Fitzgerald
Hi there! Currently I am looking for a way to implement a bounce handler and I would like some 'best practices' advice. I have very little experience in using postfix but I came up with some ideas and want to get some comments on those. An application sends out a bunch of e-mails with a varying r

Re: Untrusted issuer

2010-03-15 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Patric Falinder : > >>certificate verification failed for > >>remote.example.se[85.197.XXX.XXX]:25: untrusted issuer > >>/CN=AAA-SBS-PYRAMID-CA > >You don'T trust the CA, thus the cert is untrusted. > > > Yes but can I somehow make it trusted? By trusting the CA. Meaning: Installing the root-CA

Re: Untrusted issuer

2010-03-15 Thread Patric Falinder
Ralf Hildebrandt skrev 2010-03-15 13:52: * Patric Falinder: Hi! I act as a "spamcheck"-relay for another server and I get this "error" message when my server tries to connect and send a mail to them: certificate verification failed for remote.example.se[85.197.XXX.XXX]:25: untrusted issuer

Re: Untrusted issuer

2010-03-15 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Patric Falinder : > Hi! > > I act as a "spamcheck"-relay for another server and I get this > "error" message when my server tries to connect and send a mail to > them: > > certificate verification failed for > remote.example.se[85.197.XXX.XXX]:25: untrusted issuer > /CN=AAA-SBS-PYRAMID-CA You

Untrusted issuer

2010-03-15 Thread Patric Falinder
Hi! I act as a "spamcheck"-relay for another server and I get this "error" message when my server tries to connect and send a mail to them: certificate verification failed for remote.example.se[85.197.XXX.XXX]:25: untrusted issuer /CN=AAA-SBS-PYRAMID-CA Its the certificate on the server th