On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 07:52:00 +0100
Felix Palmen wrote:
> * Rozhuk Ivan [20240218 01:58]:
> > 1. devel/pkgconf: unconditionally prioritises base system libraries
> > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=273961
> > Actors: vish...@freebsd.org and
&
Hello,
Could you take a look at:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=277058
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=277059
Thanks,
b.shertenl...@yahoo.com escreveu (quarta,
14/02/2024 à(s) 19:40):
>
> Could a committer please have a look at the following update request??
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 22:44:17 +0100 Luca Pizzamiglio wrote:
> Hi FreeBSD porters.
>
> Here are some updates about subpackages.
>
> At the moment, subpackages adoption is *on hold*, as a few annoying issues
> have been identified and they need some time to be fixed.
> A bug about optional dependenci
* Tomoaki AOKI [20240218 17:49]:
> [a lot about automotive regulations]
That's a nice example how comparisons of entirely different domains
almost always go completely wrong.
To start with, cars (and especially individual parts) typically aren't
subject to consumer customizations
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 5:16 AM Felix Palmen wrote:
>
> * Tomoaki AOKI [20240218 17:49]:
> > [a lot about automotive regulations]
>
> That's a nice example how comparisons of entirely different domains
> almost always go completely wrong.
I guess you have never hea
community is broken
To:
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 5:16 AM Felix Palmen wrote:
>
> * Tomoaki AOKI [20240218 17:49]:
> > [a lot about automotive regulations]
>
> That's a nice example how comparisons of entirely different domains
> almost always go completely wrong.
I gue
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 1:37 PM Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 5:16 AM Felix Palmen wrote:
> >
> > * Tomoaki AOKI [20240218 17:49]:
> > > [a lot about automotive regulations]
> >
> > That's a nice example how comparisons of ent
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11 AM Gleb Popov wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 1:37 PM Aryeh Friedman
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 5:16 AM Felix Palmen wrote:
> > >
> > > * Tomoaki AOKI [20240218 17:49]:
> > > > [a lot about automo
Le dim. 18 févr. 24 à 12:18:11 +0100, Aryeh Friedman
écrivait :
> Wonderful: Are we now moving to the binary pkg only for mere mortals
> then. For example my desktop is a fairly standard 12 core machine
> with 24 GB of RAM and plenty of disk space (on SSD's) but yet Proudrie
> slows the machine
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:28 AM Thierry Thomas wrote:
>
> Le dim. 18 févr. 24 à 12:18:11 +0100, Aryeh Friedman
> écrivait :
>
> > Wonderful: Are we now moving to the binary pkg only for mere mortals
> > then. For example my desktop is a fairly standard 12 core machine
> > with 24 GB of RAM and
Hi!
> Wonderful: Are we now moving to the binary pkg only for mere mortals
> then.
Unfortunatly, yes.
> So when is it going to be possible for a mere mortal like the machine
> above to use portmaster or recursive make install since Poudrie is a
> machine killer
Both options are probably no long
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:32 AM Gleb Popov wrote:
> And it is not a Poudriere deficiency. Just as you can ask portmaster
> to download some binary packages instead of building them, the same
> way you can configure Poudriere. To be honest, I don't quite get
> what's the problem you're talking abo
; On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11 AM Gleb Popov wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 1:37 PM Aryeh Friedman
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 5:16 AM Felix Palmen
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > * Tomoaki AOKI [20240218 17:49]:
> >
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:41 AM Vasily Postnicov wrote:
>
> My 50 cents about poudriere: it's definitely not a machine-killer. Just
> remember to disable tmpfs for too heavy ports (my list includes rust, 0ad,
> webengine), start with only two jobs (one job is bad because the build can be
> bloc
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 2:35 PM Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> No it is not possible since the pkg's are usually of a different
> version then what is built from ports (ports is almost newer)
There can't be any other way - ports are building recipes for
packages. Packages will always lag behind.
> may
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:45 AM Gleb Popov wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 2:35 PM Aryeh Friedman
> wrote:
> > No it is not possible since the pkg's are usually of a different
> > version then what is built from ports (ports is almost newer)
>
> There can't be any other way - ports are buildi
I may be wrong, but in my opinion, FreeBSD is definitely not for beginners
:) Reading some documentation is usually required before one can use it.
вс, 18 февр. 2024 г., 14:45 Aryeh Friedman :
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:41 AM Vasily Postnicov
> wrote:
> >
> > My 50 cents about poudriere: it's d
Le dim. 18 févr. 24 à 12:30:55 +0100, Aryeh Friedman
écrivait :
> > It is still possible for maintainer to submit PR with patches not tested
> > on poudriere: it is the committer’s responsibility to perform these
> > tests before committing them.
>
> Again when will mere mortals get to do anyth
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:51 AM Thierry Thomas wrote:
>
> Le dim. 18 févr. 24 à 12:30:55 +0100, Aryeh Friedman
> écrivait :
>
> > > It is still possible for maintainer to submit PR with patches not tested
> > > on poudriere: it is the committer’s responsibility to perform these
> > > tests befor
* Aryeh Friedman [20240218 05:37]:
> I guess you have never heard of software engineering?
>
> Also the OP is 100% right there is a lot of "brokenish" in the ports
> community for example no maintainer should ever be banned from -ports@
> but I have been for reasons
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 06:47:25 -0500
Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:45 AM Gleb Popov wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 2:35 PM Aryeh Friedman
> > wrote:
> > > No it is not possible since the pkg's are usually of a different
> > > version then what is built from ports (por
On 18/02/24 12:41, Vasily Postnicov wrote:
My 50 cents about poudriere: it's definitely not a machine-killer. Just
remember to disable tmpfs for too heavy ports (my list includes rust,
0ad, webengine), start with only two jobs (one job is bad because the
build can be blocked by fetching or pack
Aryeh Friedman wrote on
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 10:37:06 UTC :
> It should not require
> prodiere running on a supermassive machine to work (in many cases
> portmaster and make install recursion fail where prodiere works).
As for configuring for small, slow systems relative to
resource use, I pro
[I forgot to mention the armv7 core count involved: 4]
On Feb 18, 2024, at 08:52, Mark Millard wrote:
> Aryeh Friedman wrote on
> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 10:37:06 UTC :
>
>> It should not require
>> prodiere running on a supermassive machine to work (in many cases
>> portmaster and make install
[I also forgot to mention an important FreeBSD configuration setting
as well. It is not specific to poudriere use.]
> On Feb 18, 2024, at 09:13, Mark Millard wrote:
>
> [I forgot to mention the armv7 core count involved: 4]
>
> On Feb 18, 2024, at 08:52, Mark Millard wrote:
>
>> Aryeh Friedma
On 18/02/2024 17:52, Mark Millard wrote:
Aryeh Friedman wrote on
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 10:37:06 UTC :
It should not require
prodiere running on a supermassive machine to work (in many cases
portmaster and make install recursion fail where prodiere works).
As for configuring for small, slow
On Feb 18, 2024, at 11:34, Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> wrote:
> On 18/02/2024 17:52, Mark Millard wrote:
>> Aryeh Friedman wrote on
>> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 10:37:06 UTC :
>>> It should not require
>>> prodiere running on a supermassive machine to work (in many cases
>>> portmaster an
Hi Kurt,
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Jaeger
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 11:46 AM
> To: De Lara Guarch, Pablo
> Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: devel/isa-l
>
> Hi!
>
> > There is a new version released for ISA-L (https://github.com/intel/isa-
> l/releases/t
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 3:21 PM Mark Millard wrote:
>
> I fully agree that poudriere's systematic behavior
> rebuilds more than the likes of portmaster [but fails
> less often].
>
>
> As stands there are tradeoffs between use of portmaster
> (and the like) vs. use of poudriere (/synth?). No one
>
On Feb 18, 2024, at 17:23, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 3:21 PM Mark Millard wrote:
>>
>> I fully agree that poudriere's systematic behavior
>> rebuilds more than the likes of portmaster [but fails
>> less often].
>>
>>
>> As stands there are tradeoffs between use of portma
Hello.
Aryeh Friedman wrote on 2024/02/19 10:23:
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 3:21 PM Mark Millard wrote:
>>
>> I fully agree that poudriere's systematic behavior
>> rebuilds more than the likes of portmaster [but fails
>> less often].
>>
> The reason why no alternative has been produced yet is make
Dear port maintainers,
The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more
unmaintained ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity
to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate,
submit/commit an update. Please consider also adopting this po
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:21 PM Mark Millard wrote:
>
> On Feb 18, 2024, at 17:23, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 3:21 PM Mark Millard wrote:
> >>
> >> I fully agree that poudriere's systematic behavior
> >> rebuilds more than the likes of portmaster [but fails
> >> less of
Am 18.02.2024 um 18:52 schrieb Mark Millard:
NO_ZFS=yes
USE_TMPFS=no
PARALLEL_JOBS=2
ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=yes
MAX_EXECUTION_TIME=432000
NOHANG_TIME=432000
MAX_EXECUTION_TIME_EXTRACT=14400
MAX_EXECUTION_TIME_INSTALL=14400
MAX_EXECUTION_TIME_PACKAGE=57600
MAX_EXECUTION_TIME_DEINSTALL=14400
maybe you al
On 18/02/24 23:08, Max Brazhnikov wrote:
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 22:44:17 +0100 Luca Pizzamiglio wrote:
Hi FreeBSD porters.
Here are some updates about subpackages.
At the moment, subpackages adoption is *on hold*, as a few annoying issues
have been identified and they need some time to be fixed.
A
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 07:52:00 +0100
Felix Palmen wrote:
> * Rozhuk Ivan [20240218 01:58]:
> > 1. devel/pkgconf: unconditionally prioritises base system libraries
> > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=273961
> > Actors: vish...@freebsd.org and
&
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 11:16:33 +0100
Felix Palmen wrote:
> * Tomoaki AOKI [20240218 17:49]:
> > [a lot about automotive regulations]
>
> That's a nice example how comparisons of entirely different domains
> almost always go completely wrong.
>
> To start with, ca
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 14:11:31 +0300
Gleb Popov wrote:
> > The framework has been broken for a long time. It should not require
> > prodiere running on a supermassive machine to work (in many cases
> > portmaster and make install recursion fail where prodiere works).
>
> It does not. The thing i
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:31:32 +0100
Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> > Wonderful: Are we now moving to the binary pkg only for mere mortals
> > then.
>
> Unfortunatly, yes.
Loss of this functionality = loss of one of the main competitive advantages
over many Linux distributions.
It will be easier to go t
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