2013/1/9 Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay :
> I have been reading this thread for a while. And, not just this
> iteration. There are a couple of things which leave me a bit upset.
> One, the original email from Sudhanwa left more issues un-addressed
> than it did by way of explanation. The exposition was mo
2013/1/5 Thin Rhino :
> The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
> what is expected. A quick vote should help.
>
> A: Open up the list completely, no moderation
> B: Remove restrictive moderation, keep basic moderation in place
> C: Let it be as it is, no change
>
On 18 January 2013 11:40, म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote:
> Actually why there is no D option is what I am currently wondering...
Because I did not want any "D"'s to vote :)
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On 13 January 2013 09:37, मःसागरः wrote:
> If you have been on PLUG mailing list for long and still your mails
> are getting blocked. Then imagin yourself to be in chrooted jail
> environment and instead of making noise think of how you can get out
> of that still manage to remain an active memb
On Tuesday 08 Jan 2013 5:01:49 PM ag@gmail wrote:
> A: +1. Open as in OpenBSD, and not Linux.
>
> -ag
>
> --
> pl. excuse brevity and possible typos, sent from a tiny device.
>
> On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Kaustubh Gadkari
wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
> >> The
A: +1. Open as in OpenBSD, and not Linux.
-ag
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pl. excuse brevity and possible typos, sent from a tiny device.
On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Kaustubh Gadkari wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
>
>> The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusio
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:15 PM, vaibhav wrote:
> A: +1
>
> *Regards*,
> Vaibhav
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
>
>> The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
>> what is expected. A quick vote should help.
>>
>> A: Open up the list compl
A: +1
*Regards*,
Vaibhav
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
> The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
> what is expected. A quick vote should help.
>
> A: Open up the list completely, no moderation
> B: Remove restrictive moderation, keep basi
A: +1
Lets hope quick(..rather any) response from admin/moderators.
Vinayak Kulkarni
From: Arun Khan
To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Mailing list issues - Quick vote
On Wed, Jan 9
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2013 6:25:28 PM steve wrote:
> On Saturday 05 January 2013 09:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
> > The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
> > what is expected. A quick vote should help.
> >
> > A: Open up the list completely, no moderation
> > B: Rem
On Saturday 05 January 2013 09:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
what is expected. A quick vote should help.
A: Open up the list completely, no moderation
B: Remove restrictive moderation, keep basic moderation in place
C: Let it
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Arun Khan wrote:
> Just two days ago, my reply to an OP on security certification was
> trapped by a "Suspicious Header" filter. It took close to 42 hours to
> get moderator approval. This is after so much discussion on opening
> up this mailing list.
I have be
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Kaustubh Gadkari
wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
>
>> The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
>> what is expected. A quick vote should help.
>>
>> A: Open up the list completely, no moderation
>> B: Remo
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
> The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
> what is expected. A quick vote should help.
>
> A: Open up the list completely, no moderation
> B: Remove restrictive moderation, keep basic moderation in place
> C: Le
> - On 7 January 2013 14:32, G Karunakar wrote:
> -- On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Arun Khan wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
>>> The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
>>> what is expected. A quick vote should help.
>>>
>>> A: Op
On 7 January 2013 14:32, G Karunakar wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Arun Khan wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
>>> The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
>>> what is expected. A quick vote should help.
>>>
>>> A: Open up t
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Arun Khan wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
>> The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
>> what is expected. A quick vote should help.
>>
>> A: Open up the list completely, no moderation
>> B: Remove restr
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Parag Shah wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Navin Kabra wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I would love to be more active on PLUG, but have been bitten by the
>> "suspicious headers" bug often enough that I don't bother any more.
>>
>>
> I agree ! In the past I have tried t
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
> A: Open up the list completely, no moderation
> B: Remove restrictive moderation, keep basic moderation in place
> C: Let it be as it is, no change
A mailing list maintained using a standard mailing list software has
two distinct roles - admin/a
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Navin Kabra wrote:
> Thin Rhino writes:
>
> > Let us not "open - up" the entire list, let us just relax a few filters,
> > eg: top posting, suspicious headers, etc.
>
>
>
+1 for this
>
> I would love to be more active on PLUG, but have been bitten by the
> "susp
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
> The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
> what is expected. A quick vote should help.
>
> A: Open up the list completely, no moderation
> B: Remove restrictive moderation, keep basic moderation in place
> C: Let
On 5 January 2013 07:02, ag@gmail wrote:
> On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:56 AM, jayant ogale wrote:
>> hi,
>> as i have already said, this is an issue of "swatantra" and "swairachar".
>> one has to draw a line between, and the moderater does the same.
>> he/she
>> is like a head of the joint family [proba
The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on
what is expected. A quick vote should help.
A: Open up the list completely, no moderation
B: Remove restrictive moderation, keep basic moderation in place
C: Let it be as it is, no change
Please vote: A: +1 or B: +1 or C +
Thin Rhino writes:
> Let us not "open - up" the entire list, let us just relax a few filters,
> eg: top posting, suspicious headers, etc.
Yes please. +1 on this.
I would love to be more active on PLUG, but have been bitten by the
"suspicious headers" bug often enough that I don't bother any mor
; "Suspicious Header"
>
> The "PLUG mailing list issues" is on the agenda for today's PLUG
> meeting along with GNUnify 2013. I am not sure whether the quorum
> will reach this item given GNUnify being first on the list.
>
>> It's as simple as t
er of the
"Suspicious Header"
The "PLUG mailing list issues" is on the agenda for today's PLUG
meeting along with GNUnify 2013. I am not sure whether the quorum
will reach this item given GNUnify being first on the list.
>It's as simple as that. But I am yet to hear from
"ag@gmail" wrote:
>Not amused with this stupidity - a simple decision taking ages and huge
>bandwidth and time and yet nothing decided.
+1
A
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On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:56 AM, jayant ogale wrote:
> hi,
> as i have already said, this is an issue of "swatantra" and "swairachar".
> one has to draw a line between, and the moderater does the same.
> he/she
> is like a head of the joint family [probably a very big joint family].
> every family mem
On Friday 04 Jan 2013 9:56:47 PM jayant ogale wrote:
> the women ask for the unlimited freedom of dressing, movement etc. the
> men will ask their freedom for harrasment [you know what i mean].
caution...:::
there should never be a plan to use the word harassment, too much phonetics
involved in
Apart from a very few people on the list who are raising questions
about the mailing list, I have not come across anyone who is raising
the issue.
Well, it is upto the mailing list members to decide how the list
should work. If majority feels that it should be more open, let it be.
If all the fil
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 12:38:36PM +0530, Arun Khan wrote:
> (2) *all* members here may not sign up in the new forum(s) - inertia.
True. My reason - not inertia. I have pretty organized text based email
setup and it will be disheartening (besides inconvenient) to adopt some
other form.
(But it's
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे
wrote:
>> Still, we can go for a Google Plus community. Its the latest and a good way
>> to share posts (I personally think so).
>>
>
> https://plus.google.com/communities/113068106699068845393
>
IMO, the posting issue has received the atte
On 4 January 2013 11:22, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote:
>> Still, we can go for a Google Plus community. Its the latest and a good way
>> to share posts (I personally think so).
>>
This does mean that you need a google account and a google+ account as
well. Not everyone would be willing to have t
> Still, we can go for a Google Plus community. Its the latest and a good way
> to share posts (I personally think so).
>
https://plus.google.com/communities/113068106699068845393
-Mandar
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> limitations and such email were difficult to read, but today, nearly 95+
> (tending to 99%) use GMail. It is smart enough to show you relevant email
> content and hide the unwanted. Why should we not move with technology?
>
I'm not sure about the numbers quoted above, but sure LOTS of people use
On 3 January 2013 02:03, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote:
> Well, there are more than 1200 people on the list. We see just about
> 10 people on this (or any such other) thread. Either so many people do
> not understand what is happening or they are not interested or they
> want to remain neutral.
>
M
On Thursday 03 Jan 2013 2:03:07 AM Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote:
> Well, there are more than 1200 people on the list. We see just about
> 10 people on this (or any such other) thread. Either so many people do
> not understand what is happening or they are not interested or they
> want to remain neutra
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Arun Khan wrote:
> rules - top posting, trimming quotes) goes into the moderator Q
s/top/bottom/ mea culpa.
> I have requested a friend who manages another LUG ML (mailman backend)
> to share his settings. I will post them in a separate message once I
> receiv
Mr. Jogalekar, I agree with what Sunil Bhaskar has said. Replying
because I am one of 1200 users who is interested to have my queries
answered on plug list and do not want to be neutral.
On 1/3/13, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे
> wro
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे
wrote:
> Sudhanwa,
>
> It was great to finally hear from "the other side".
"the other side" ?? What is it? I am not representing any side. I told
what I know/remember.
In the earlier years, I was not even knowing who were the moderator
My two cents.
1. Moderation wrt to holding new member emails in Q, only to verify that
the new member is not a bot - Required
2. Moderation wrt to formatting - previously required. Not necessary to
continue, email clients have evolved.
3. HTML Mail not allowed - This is okay, a lot of people still
only allowing top posting in itself will help in many messages
reaching the people..that is one thing I have learnt here
--
-prazzb
GPG key 0xDB63309D
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> On 1 January 2013 15:53, म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote:
>> On Monday 31 Dec 2012 3:03:51 PM ag@gmail wrote:
>>> A locked down list is next to useless, and that is what plug is for me now.
>>> Probably one reason why plug meets never garner more support. No question
>>> is stupid and when someone moves over
For Google Plus, Facebook or LinkedIn groups/communities, users will get
bound to have an account to the respective services. With mailing lists,
they can use any email client they want.
Still, we can go for a Google Plus community. Its the latest and a good way
to share posts (I personally think
Dear Sudhanwa,
Thanks for discussing this issue.
I have been a PLUG mail list (ML) member since 2005 IIRC.
Till about 2009/2010, I have faced no issues vis-a-vis posting to the PLUG ML.
My further comments are inline below.
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote:
> Some Pl
> This mailing list has 'bugs'. Subscribers don't want an explanation of
> why the bugs exist. They want the bugs fixed.
+1 million :)
One "bug" several people like at least an explanation (better yet - a fix)
is :
why "sometimes" an email sent from Gmail web interface is held/rejected
with the
On 31 December 2012 23:08, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote:
> This was another time for
> spams and many mails usually floated like invites from social
> networks, Chinese vendors offering goods, lottery winnings etc etc.
> Due to this, more and more filters got added to the list.
The list blocks any un
On Monday 31 Dec 2012 3:03:51 PM ag@gmail wrote:
> A locked down list is next to useless, and that is what plug is for me now.
> Probably one reason why plug meets never garner more support. No question
> is stupid and when someone moves over to Linux, he/she has many many
> questions. If plug is n
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 4:33 AM, ag@gmail
wrote:
> A locked down list is next to useless, and that is what plug is for me
> now.
>
As they say "The only computer that is truly secure from virus/network
attacks is the one that is powered down" :)
-Mandar
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A locked down list is next to useless, and that is what plug is for me now.
Probably one reason why plug meets never garner more support. No question is
stupid and when someone moves over to Linux, he/she has many many questions. If
plug is not designed to answer newbie questions, there is no ch
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे
wrote:
>>
>> I am quite sure this message is not going to make it because of some
>
> rules on the number of recipients in the "to" field.
>>
>
> But it did. May be the trick is to add people to CC ;)
>
> I am definitely going to find anoth
>
> I am quite sure this message is not going to make it because of some
rules on the number of recipients in the "to" field.
>
But it did. May be the trick is to add people to CC ;)
I am definitely going to find another forum or create one for
>
May be "mailing list" is old school. Time to try
I was replying to a post on the GNU/Linux presentations.
I had removed all text from the mail thread and posted it - this is
not top-posting as there was no signature.
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