Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-10-01 Thread Aditya Godbole
On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 18:02 +0530, Vinayak Kulkarni wrote: > Hi Mayuresh > > >>It's time we try and state some real differentiators that matter to > >>people. Cost may be one of them but we need more substantial ones. > > That is what the point I wanted to raise, > We really need to think about

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-10-01 Thread Aditya Godbole
On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 18:02 +0530, Vinayak Kulkarni wrote: > Hi Mayuresh > > >>It's time we try and state some real differentiators that matter to > >>people. Cost may be one of them but we need more substantial ones. > > That is what the point I wanted to raise, > We really need to think about

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-30 Thread Mithun Shitole
On Thursday 30 September 2010 07:34 PM, Dnyanraj Mali wrote: > But i would like to say that colleges follow university rules, if linux is > in your syllabus they'll have to install it..(this is problem in our > education system) As far as I know, Pune University don't make a rule for any p

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-30 Thread Mayuresh
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 07:21:58PM +0530, Vinayak Kulkarni wrote: > When we raised this issue in our college, our administration said that when > they are ready to pay then why we should worry about this issue. On the contrary I also know of colleges that do show openness to try out alternatives.

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-30 Thread Mayuresh
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 05:34:37PM +0530, Dnyanraj Mali wrote: > source e.g. frequent blue screen, virus problems, software ones developed by Precisely such are the things that will get a buy-in from common people than any amount of philosophy. I remember telling a relative about Linux, who was t

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-30 Thread Vinayak Kulkarni
Dnyanraj   sorry for my typing mistake. Thanks for the information. Vinayak D. Kulkarni (Col_VIN) --- On Thu, 30/9/10, Dnyanraj Mali wrote: From: Dnyanraj Mali Subject: Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People To: "Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List" Date: Th

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-30 Thread Dnyanraj Mali
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Vinayak Kulkarni < kulkarnivd2...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: > Hi Dnyaraj > Its Dnyanraj.. :) > > What should we and foss do in such cases. > > once again I have case to discuss (.. do not get angry as I have many more > cases to discuss. :) ) > > Engineering colleges u

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-30 Thread Vinayak Kulkarni
hy we should worry about this issue. And also as they are ready to pay for the software they are not ready to change their systems(.. I mean to say that install Linux on large no of pc) for the Free and Open Source Software. Vinayak D. Kulkarni (Col_VIN) --- On Thu, 30/9/10, Dnyanraj Mali wro

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-30 Thread Dnyanraj Mali
Dear Vinayak, On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Vinayak Kulkarni < kulkarnivd2...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: > > Despite of telling all the advantages of Linux and FOSS software (.. so > called Freedom)(..I know I am rude here) to him, he refused and said that he > will go with XP+Hotel mgmt software wh

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-30 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Vinayak Kulkarni wrote: | I told them regarding other Free and Open Source Alternative \-- They are not alternatives. The very basic principle, ideology, and philosophy of source code that we so truly believe in is the most important thing. Whatever the

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-30 Thread Vinayak Kulkarni
Hi Mayuresh >>Freedom to view source and change software is one thing that is often >>stated as important differentiator. While that is great for technical >>people, it is nearly immaterial for non technical ones. >>It's time we try and state some real differentiators that matter to >>people. Cos

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-30 Thread Dnyanraj Mali
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Vinayak Kulkarni < kulkarnivd2...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: > (.. mostly all of them use pirated copies of the software). > They are more comfortable with that. > You have some wrong interpretation of Free Software in mind.. Its "Free" as in Freedom not "Free Of Cost"

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-29 Thread steve
Hi Vinayak, On 09/30/2010 09:05 AM, Vinayak Kulkarni wrote: Hi All According to Richard Stallman (.. whom I personally respect), 'User should experience a freedom to use the software'. But I think that the freedom they wanted was quiet right at their era, because computers were used by mostly t

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-29 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Vinayak Kulkarni wrote: | But I think that the freedom they wanted was quiet right | at their era, because computers were used by mostly technical people. \-- Nope. They care for end users as well. That is why GPLv3 and AGPLv3 licenses were introduced. -

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-29 Thread Mayuresh
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:55:40AM +0530, Mayuresh wrote: An article on similar topic though for enterprise world: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10726 Mayuresh. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-29 Thread Mayuresh
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:05:20AM +0530, Vinayak Kulkarni wrote: > And more importantly, Thing about software that it is Free or Paid does not > matter to them > (.. mostly all of them use pirated copies of the software). > They are more comfortable with that. Costs don't help win users over a s

Re: [PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-29 Thread Devendra Laulkar
Hi, > According to Richard Stallman (.. whom I personally respect), 'User should > experience a freedom to use the software'. > But I think that the freedom they wanted was quiet right at their era, > because computers were used by mostly technical people. > So that category of people required f

[PLUG] FOSS Activity and Non-Technical People

2010-09-29 Thread Vinayak Kulkarni
Hi All According to Richard Stallman (.. whom I personally respect), 'User should experience a freedom to use the software'. But I think that the freedom they wanted was quiet right at their era, because computers were used by mostly technical people. So that category of people required free and