[Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi, please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Damien, from this perspective; is there a difference in revenues between printed and pdf? Joachim Am 16.09.13 16:24, schrieb Damien Cassou: Hi, please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ Your money go to the Pharo Asso

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread jannik laval
Dear Joachim, Yes, the printed version gives approximatively 15 USD, the pdf gives 6USD Best regards, Jannik 2013/9/16 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de > Damien, > > from this perspective; is there a difference in revenues between printed > and pdf? > > Joachim > > Am 16.09.13 16:24, schrieb Damien Ca

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:26 PM, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: > from this perspective; is there a difference in revenues between printed and > pdf? normally this is shown when you click on either the "Get PDF" or "Get printed" buttons on the website. For the PDF: you pay 6 €, Pharo associatio

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Guillermo Polito
What about a tweet from the pharo tweeter so we can retweet? ;) On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > Hi, > > please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ > > Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it'

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
I would pay an intermediate price to get a Kindle edition :) Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/9/16 Guillermo Polito : > What about a tweet from the pharo tweeter so we can retweet? ;) > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Damien Cassou > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> please support our work on Pharo by buyin

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Juraj Kubelka
Hi, I suppose it is en error, but PDF version on lulu page says it is in French language. It is in English, isn't it?Thank you for the great job!Cheers,JuraEl 16-09-2013, a las 11:24, Damien Cassou escribió:Hi,please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Ph

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
How about iBooks :) uko On 16 вер. 2013, at 17:38, "Esteban A. Maringolo" wrote: > I would pay an intermediate price to get a Kindle edition :) > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2013/9/16 Guillermo Polito : >> What about a tweet from the pharo tweeter so we can retweet? ;) >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 1

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > I would pay an intermediate price to get a Kindle edition :) if you have a solution to generate Kindle/ibook from latex, then we can try. Otherwise, please download the PDF and tell us how is looks on mobile platforms. -- Damien Cas

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 16 Sep 2013, at 16:24, Damien Cassou wrote: > Hi, > > please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ > > Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. Done. Great work, Damien, Stéphane, Alexandre & Jannik

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2013/9/16 Damien Cassou : > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo > wrote: >> I would pay an intermediate price to get a Kindle edition :) > > if you have a solution to generate Kindle/ibook from latex, then we > can try. Otherwise, please download the PDF and tell us how is looks

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ can convert latex to epub. epub is actually a wrapper around html, so if it's written in pier it can be even easier. uko On 16 вер. 2013, at 17:48, jannik laval wrote: > no iBooks for now. It needs another document format, and I don't know how > much work it

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > What about a tweet from the pharo tweeter so we can retweet? ;) I tweeted from my account and ESUG's one. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Yeap, it is english. I was about to report the same thing. Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/9/16 Juraj Kubelka > Hi, > > I suppose it is en error, but PDF version on lulu page says it is in > French language. > It is in English, isn't it? > > Thank you for the great job! > > Cheers, > Jura > > > El

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread jannik laval
no iBooks for now. It needs another document format, and I don't know how much work it needs. If someone wants to contribute :)... Jannik 2013/9/16 Yuriy Tymchuk > How about iBooks :) > > uko > > On 16 вер. 2013, at 17:38, "Esteban A. Maringolo" > wrote: > > > I would pay an intermediate pri

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > 2. Why give lulu 20% to control access to a zero marginal cost download > that you have to do all the promotion for? At this point are you > contractually obligated or is there some flexibility? Can that be > switched over right now to

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Paul DeBruicker
On 09/16/2013 07:32 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:26 PM, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de > wrote: >> from this perspective; is there a difference in revenues between printed and >> pdf? > > > normally this is shown when you click on either the "Get PDF" or "Get > printed" buttons

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 16, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: >> 2. Why give lulu 20% to control access to a zero marginal cost download >> that you have to do all the promotion for? At this point are you >> contractually obligated or is there so

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> > > Disclaimer: bikeshedding > > 1. I think you're not charging enough, see: > http://blog.asmartbear.com/selling-ebook.html. Why not PDF version for > 29, physical copy for 35, both for 39, both plus t-shirt for 49? Have a > fat student discount for the PDF. This is a good idea. > > You'r

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Other alternative is to have an online store (Shopify/Gumroad) or any other store to channel all the pharo payments: association, consortium, books, mugs, t-shirts, stickers, everything. We're a small community, so the cost of maintaining it should be a fraction of the income. But it's just an ide

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Sorry guys, but to me it seems like we've had enough "you should do X" tips for now. Buy the thing, do some good to the Pharo crowd or leave it. All of us who know much better can do so ;-)

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread jannik laval
Thank you for the report. I fixed it. Jannik 2013/9/16 Esteban A. Maringolo > Yeap, it is english. I was about to report the same thing. > > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2013/9/16 Juraj Kubelka > >> Hi, >> >> I suppose it is en error, but PDF version on lulu page says it is in >> French lan

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Paul DeBruicker
I don't have time to make an ebook ecommerce site for free for you guys right now. How about using gumroad.com where its just a 5% cut for now until you can find a student and some budget to implement something? Seems like you'd need to commit to raising your prices beyond 6 euro to justify any

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Seaside Continuous Integration on ci.inria.fr

2013-09-16 Thread Camillo Bruni
Thanks a lot for the update :) On 2013-09-16, at 06:20, Philippe Marschall wrote: > Please try to keep the build green, otherwise we'll get spammed with emails. I like this ;) > Currently we keep all the build (5GB already). Do we really need this? We live in 2013, 5GB is the data of single mo

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Paul, your last statement turns the whole argument upside down. If theres money needed to build your own store, the whole thing blows up. How many books do you have to sell in order to pay a single developer day, even if it is "free"? How much more could the student do to improve pharo during

[Pharo-users] News from Mars

2013-09-16 Thread Carla F. Griggio
Hey! I wanted to let you know that I've been updating my blog on Mars with the latest news, I've just posted some videos showing how different kinds of layouts and widgets are working together on both Cocoa and GTK. The blog: http://marsonpharo.wordpress.com/. For the ones that are interested in

Re: [Pharo-users] [smaltalk-gsoc-students] News from Mars

2013-09-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks carla. Native widgets opens really new horizons :) Stef On Sep 16, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Carla F. Griggio wrote: > Hey! > I wanted to let you know that I've been updating my blog on Mars with the > latest news, I've just posted some videos showing how different kinds of > layouts and widge

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 16, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > I don't have time to make an ebook ecommerce site for free for you guys > right now. this is not a ecommerce This is a web page with a secure ecard + a following page with a pdf to download. > How about using gumroad.com where its just a

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Paul DeBruicker
Hi Stef, On 09/16/2013 10:47 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On Sep 16, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> I don't have time to make an ebook ecommerce site for free for you guys >> right now. > > this is not a ecommerce > This is a web page with a secure ecard + a following page wi

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread p...@highoctane.be
http://www.LeanPub.com would be a great avenue for a Pharo book in terms of exposure. The format to use is Markdown I guess. And then it delivers the book in a ton of formats. You can even print them with one of their partners. Pretty good revenue. A friend of mine wrote this one: https://leanpu

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

2013-09-16 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 16/09/13 10:52 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ can convert latex to epub. epub is actually a wrapper around html, so if it's written in pier it can be even easier. In the Pier Book Add-on, there should be a class category: Pier-Book-EPUB It should put a 'Book