Hi Stef,

On 09/16/2013 10:47 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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> On Sep 16, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I don't have time to make an ebook ecommerce site for free for you guys
>> right now.
> 
> this is not a ecommerce
> This is a web page with a secure ecard + a following page with a pdf to 
> download.
> 
> 

What you've described sounds like eCommerce to me.  Collect money for a
product via the web.  Deliver the product via the web or post.


For your page & download links you need an account at a payment
processor.  If you set it up with stripe.com (they have a beta program
for France) you could use the Stripe-Seaside example form in the repo on
smalltalkhub.   The charge something like 3% + $0.30 per transaction to
process a credit card. It all works in Pharo2.


>> How about using gumroad.com where its just a 5% cut for now until you
>> can find a student and some budget to implement something?
> 
> We do not have students for such kind of task.
> 

Oh OK.  I was just guessing that there would be at least one person who
would like to earn some small amount of euro to spend a part of a
saturday making a simple form + download page (ebook platform) that runs
on your infrastructure for your ebook sales to maybe go take someone
special to them on dates or a concert or something fun.


>> Seems like you'd need to commit to raising your prices beyond 6 euro to
>> justify any development time on your own custom ebook platform.
> 
> Why would we do so? our goal is not to develop ebook platform.
> 
> Stef



I agree that with your current pricing structure anything custom
developed is nonsensical as you'd only be saving 2% on the sales price
over just switching to gumroad.com.  My original argument was A) raise
your prices and then B) stop using lulu for ebooks.  Unless you raise
prices, use gumroad.com.  Or don't.  At 6 euro you only earn 0.67 euro
more per sale if you switch to Gumroad (5% + $0.30) vs staying with lulu.

I think you misinterpret me saying "platform".  I do not mean something
with tons of inventory management capabilities or other features.  I
mean custom software that integrates with the current consortium site
that allows you to sell eBooks through that site.  E.g. the order form
page you mention above + credit card processing back end and download
link generator (if you want a different one for each person to track how
often it gets downloaded by each customer), and then download link page
plus an email sent to the customer so they can get another copy (e.g.
after their hard drive dies).


Thanks

Paul


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>> On 09/16/2013 09:22 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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>>> On Sep 16, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cas...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebr...@gmail.com> 
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>>>>> 2.  Why give lulu 20% to control access to a zero marginal cost download
>>>>> that you have to do all the promotion for?   At this point are you
>>>>> contractually obligated or is there some flexibility?  Can that be
>>>>> switched over right now to just email you when someone orders the PDF
>>>>> and you manually email them the PDF until you get a system in place to
>>>>> automatically respond to their orders?
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>>>> I don't think we are obligated to do anything. So, if you want to
>>>> build a little app that would do that, we would really like it.
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>>> Oh YES!!!
>>> We would love to have that.
>>>
>>> Stef
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>>>> -- 
>>>> Damien Cassou
>>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
>>>>
>>>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
>>>> losing enthusiasm."
>>>> Winston Churchill
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