Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Consultants Page Updated

Thank you. Hernán 2014-11-20 5:55 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > Hi, > > The Pharo Consultants page has been updated, it now contains 17 entries. > > http://consultants.pharo.org > > Sven > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Consultants Page Updated

Thanks! Doru On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Thanks! > > Norbert > > > > > Am 20.11.2014 um 09:55 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > > > Hi, > > > > The Pharo Consultants page has been updated, it now contains 17 entries. > > > > http://consultants.pharo.org > > > > Sv

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Consultants Page Updated

Thanks! Norbert > Am 20.11.2014 um 09:55 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > Hi, > > The Pharo Consultants page has been updated, it now contains 17 entries. > > http://consultants.pharo.org > > Sven >

[Pharo-users] Pharo Consultants Page Updated

Hi, The Pharo Consultants page has been updated, it now contains 17 entries. http://consultants.pharo.org Sven

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo consultants

OK, I will redo that page - please send updates. > On 17 Nov 2014, at 10:24, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > Norbert wrote: >> I forgot how people can add themselves. I remember a smalltalk snippet that >> one can send around to update the list. > > That doesn't run automatically. There are alrea

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo consultants

Norbert wrote: > I forgot how people can add themselves. I remember a smalltalk snippet that > one can send around to update the list. That doesn't run automatically. There are already some updates waiting. Stephan The script looks like: PharoConsultant new name: ’Stephan Eggermont'; locatio

[Pharo-users] pharo consultants

I just had a look at http://consultants.pharo.org/ (that is linked from pharo.org ) and it seems pretty outdated. The page footer tells Page last generated on 2013-10-12T21:46:35.576104+02:00 by Pharo3.0 of 18 March 2013 update 30262 and the

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

Jesus wrote: >IMHO the key to success is certification. Certified courses should be >delivered to consolidate the community, starting >by offering on universities. >I think the reasons for this are somewhat clear. Did you read "Crossing the chasm"? Please do. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

IMHO the key to success is certification. Certified courses should be delivered to consolidate the community, starting by offering on universities. I think the reasons for this are somewhat clear. 2013/6/3 p...@highoctane.be > Get the bosses to trust you and sign the check. The you use the tech

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

Get the bosses to trust you and sign the check. The you use the tech you want. Now, that's how I do work, and it pays off. Less hassles, more money, more solutions that do work. That's what a consultant does. A contractor is another matter of course. I doubt anyone in my business club cares an i

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Am 03.06.2013 um 09:47 schrieb p...@highoctane.be: > I'd say creating visible success cases w/ real business value is what will > drive usage forward. > > Without that, well, that's yet another tech in the pile. > Maybe. But my experience shows that it is more effective than having developers

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

I'd say creating visible success cases w/ real business value is what will drive usage forward. Without that, well, that's yet another tech in the pile. Once business sees that using Pharo has a clear ROI, then, who cares about justifications. BTW, interesting programming doesn't occurs in the I

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Am 01.06.2013 um 17:28 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse : > > On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> >> Am 01.06.2013 um 08:10 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse : >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the >>> quality of our community is

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> > But in general, I personally, 100% agree with you. Nothing better > attracts the likes of me and at the same time proves the potentials of > Smalltalk. I've already started a small project named Simin[1] with the > exact same goal. I strongly encourage you to have a look at magritte because

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

I thought about the same. This is a pity that I do not have the knowledge to build one :) On Jun 2, 2013, at 3:50 PM, b...@openinworld.com wrote: > I have had similar thoughts that many people are first drawn to an > application, and then end up in its development language by default. My > th

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

On 2013-06-02 19:07, b...@openinworld.com wrote: > b...@openinworld.com wrote: >> Bahman Movaqar wrote: >> > >> > ** A very good way to promote a mature and well thought-out language >> > like Smalltalk/Pharo is to something serious with it and let people >> know >> > about it. Honestly, I'd writ

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

ome > *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2013 2:34:26 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants > > On 2013-06-01 10:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that > the quality of our communit

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

b...@openinworld.com wrote: Bahman Movaqar wrote: > > ** A very good way to promote a mature and well thought-out language > like Smalltalk/Pharo is to something serious with it and let people know > about it. Honestly, I'd write a business application, open source it > and try to promote it on

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Bahman Movaqar wrote: On 2013-06-02 07:26, b...@openinworld.com wrote: Bahman Movaqar wrote: On 2013-06-01 10:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi guys I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the quality of our commun

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

r To: Any question about pharo is welcome Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 2:34:26 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants On 2013-06-01 10:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the > quality of our comm

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

Thanks for your feedback. I agree with most of them (to me seasie is lacking a nice library of premade components), now you have also reef (lacks a good oducmentation that encapsulates javascript) and amber for the client side. With Pharo our goal is to make sure that people can make business. W

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

On Jun 1, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: > Hi guys > > I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the > quality of our community is in > general excellent but we do not sell it. I

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

On 2013-06-02 07:26, b...@openinworld.com wrote: > Bahman Movaqar wrote: >> On 2013-06-01 10:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the >>> quality of our community is in >>> general excellent but we do not sell i

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

Bahman Movaqar wrote: On 2013-06-01 10:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi guys I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the quality of our community is in general excellent but we do not sell it. I think that we are not using well the association. I think

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > > > Am 01.06.2013 um 08:10 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse < > stephane.duca...@inria.fr>: > > > >> Hi guys > >> > >> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the > quality of our community is in > general excellent but we do not sell it. I think that we are not using > well the association. > I think that this is RE

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

On 01 Jun 2013, at 17:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> >> Am 01.06.2013 um 08:10 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse : >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the >>> quality of our community is

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

On 01 Jun 2013, at 17:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> >> Am 01.06.2013 um 08:10 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse : >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the >>> quality of our community is

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 01.06.2013 um 08:10 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse : > >> Hi guys >> >> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the >> quality of our community is in >> general excellent but we do not sell it. I think that we a

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

Am 01.06.2013 um 08:10 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse : > Hi guys > > I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the > quality of our community is in > general excellent but we do not sell it. I think that we are not using well > the association. > I think that this is RE

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

On 2013-06-01 10:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the > quality of our community is in > general excellent but we do not sell it. I think that we are not using well > the association. > I think that this is REALLY im

[Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

Hi guys I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the quality of our community is in general excellent but we do not sell it. I think that we are not using well the association. I think that this is REALLY important for a larger adoption of Pharo that the world kno