Get the bosses to trust you and sign the check. The you use the tech you
want.

Now, that's how I do work, and it pays off.
Less hassles, more money, more solutions that do work.

That's what a consultant does. A contractor is another matter of course.

I doubt anyone in my business club cares an iota about the tech details.

Real business value is easy: I spend 100K, I spare 20 million. Risk? Low.
Decision: No brainer: go.

When you know businesses spend 50K on toilet paper and office supplies a
year, you can target your pricing a bit higher. I am always surprised that
IT guys are playing that silly race to the bottom and behave as commodity .

It's the mindset. And Pharo can be a powerful weapon in that game.

Phil


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:

>
> Am 03.06.2013 um 09:47 schrieb p...@highoctane.be:
>
> I'd say creating visible success cases w/ real business value is what will
> drive usage forward.
>
> Without that, well, that's yet another tech in the pile.
>
> Maybe. But my experience shows that it is more effective than having
> developers think about marketing or "real business value" (whatever that
> might be). Sorry, but most of us don't have a glue about it. It is just
> high hopes (juggling with learned business acronyms) that are hard to
> achieve and it is the safest way that nothing will happen.
> Anyway I'm just responding because you are weighing efforts. If there are
> more things that we can do I'm pretty sure we should do all of them.
>
> Norbert
>
> Once business sees that using Pharo has a clear ROI, then, who cares about
> justifications.
>
> BTW, interesting programming doesn't occurs in the IT departments where
> you have to justify everything but in business units where doing something
> that matters to the bottom line is what counts. (That's why business units
> do a lot of skunkworks projects in their area... and why we should focus
> there).
>
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 01.06.2013 um 17:28 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse <
>> stephane.duca...@inria.fr>:
>>
>> >
>> > On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Am 01.06.2013 um 08:10 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse <
>> stephane.duca...@inria.fr>:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi guys
>> >>>
>> >>> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that
>> the quality of our community is in
>> >>> general excellent but we do not sell it. I think that we are not
>> using well the association.
>> >>> I think that this is REALLY important for a larger adoption of Pharo
>> that the world
>> >>> knows that we have excellent guys around that can consult.
>> >>>
>> >>> So what do you think?
>> >>> I would use the association in a much clearer way.
>> >>
>> >> I think you need to elaborate here. On this level of detail the only
>> answer could be: good idea! I cannot see what you have on your mind when
>> you like to use the association in a clearer way.
>> >
>> > I mean that we could use the association as a show room for talented
>> person
>> > "selling" their expertise :)
>> >
>> >> I would like to have consultancy for consultants. I mean I read that
>> sometimes that developers are just too shy to sell services with smalltalk
>> or do not dare to introduce it to their IT. There should be an instance
>> encouraging those people or be just an address to target questions to.
>> >
>> > I would like to show to the world that if they start business around
>> Pharo they can find experts.
>>
>> Agreed. I think that is important, too. I just like as well help people
>> finding the right arguments (or myth counter arguments) to be able to
>> implement smalltalk in their company themselves. It is the same as
>> programming: You have to unlearn "some truths" first before you can argue a
>> better way. It works for me and people I talk to. And I (and other people,
>> too..I guess) are open to answer questions about this.
>>
>> Norbert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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