Re: [Pharo-users] i "am" back ...

2014-09-19 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-19 19:34, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 19 Sep 2014, at 15:59, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: heraclitus actually said, "everything _flows_" (panta rhei). No he said: Πάντα ῥεῖ ;-) true... :-D

Re: [Pharo-users] i "am" back ...

2014-09-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 19 Sep 2014, at 15:59, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > heraclitus actually said, "everything _flows_" (panta rhei). No he said: Πάντα ῥεῖ ;-)

Re: [Pharo-users] i "am" back ...

2014-09-19 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
thanks for the warm welcome. :) the self vm while interesting, isn't as portable as "squeak" and it's derived systems. ~mayuresh On 2014-09-19 18:06, Thierry Goubier wrote: Welcome back! You convinced me to have a look at Self, which I didn't in, what, more than 15 years? They even have mu

Re: [Pharo-users] i "am" back ...

2014-09-19 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
what i've wanted is a pure-objects system. somehow, none of the options (python, ruby, obj-c) come close to fulfilling my requirements the way smalltalk does. i do have certain ideas i wish to explore which require an object system to as deep a level as possible with a certain liveness to it (

Re: [Pharo-users] i "am" back ...

2014-09-19 Thread Tudor Girba
Welcome back! Doru On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > hello all, > > i had to do it. > after listening to everybody's comments about my questions to the list, i > went out and checked on the current state of squeak and self. > > looks like squeak and self definitely need a

Re: [Pharo-users] i "am" back ...

2014-09-19 Thread Thierry Goubier
Welcome back! You convinced me to have a look at Self, which I didn't in, what, more than 15 years? They even have multiple host windows :) Thierry 2014-09-19 14:07 GMT+02:00 Mayuresh Kathe : > hello all, > > i had to do it. > after listening to everybody's comments about my questions to the li

Re: [Pharo-users] i "am" back ...

2014-09-19 Thread kilon alios
it all comes down to what you want. You are not obliged to even use Smalltalk in the first place, what matter is what you want to do ? What project you have in mind ? what are your goals ? how you want to achieve them ? etc Pharo comes with its own set of problems and flaws like any other language

Re: [Pharo-users] i "am" back ...

2014-09-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
welcome back ! On 19 Sep 2014, at 14:07, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > hello all, > > i had to do it. > after listening to everybody's comments about my questions to the list, i > went out and checked on the current state of squeak and self. > > looks like squeak and self definitely need a lot of a

[Pharo-users] i "am" back ...

2014-09-19 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello all, i had to do it. after listening to everybody's comments about my questions to the list, i went out and checked on the current state of squeak and self. looks like squeak and self definitely need a lot of attention from experienced developers and visionaries. since i don't fall sq