[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-20 Thread Steve Quezadas
Does anyone physically know this Steven Costiou person? Honest question, is he mentally ill? Reason I am asking is that he knows nothing about me, but immediately brands me as "nazi" based off of two things I said: - I like Elon Musk - I don't like BlueSky He seems serious about it too. My guess

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-20 Thread Steve Quezadas
Do you honestly think I'm a "nazi"? And Elon Musk too? If so, you have lost touch with reality! I blame social media, it causes brain rot. BlueSky makes it worse because it only shows one side of the debate while twitter shows multiple perspectives. On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:10 AM wrote: > Time

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-20 Thread dave
All Pharo users should be here. Political views, including yours, have no place here. Keep the discussion 100% Pharo. This a purely technical group. We should have no interest in each others political views. Even Hitler himself could participate. Kind Regards Dave Langley On 20/02/2025 10:3

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-20 Thread Steven Costiou
Go fuck yourself with Hitler! It's going to be political because we want it, and because we want NAZIS OUT! I mean, try to be clever for once: everybody knows the play of "it's purely technical", "we must be neutral and accept all political views", "everybody is welcome", all that to actuall

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-20 Thread Steven Costiou
YES to all of that! I'm also convinced that bluesky will become similar to twitter, sooner or later. We also started Mastodon accounts for Pharo and ESUG, and perhaps ultimately we'll succeed in moving an important part of the community there. But bluesky or twitter before were never mandator

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-20 Thread Steven Costiou
Can we ban him already? Is this not proof enough that he's on the nazi side?? Are we "tolerating nazis"??? Le 20/02/2025 à 03:16, Steve Quezadas a écrit : There is no evidence that elon Musk is a "nazi" and i am baffled that seemingly everyone on this list thinks he is. There is ZERO evidence

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Steve Quezadas
There is no evidence that elon Musk is a "nazi" and i am baffled that seemingly everyone on this list thinks he is. There is ZERO evidence. Also, I am a big fan of his. I admire him greatly. And I am no adolf hitler fan either. On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 4:59 PM Harald wrote: > Hello pharoers, here

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Harald
Hello pharoers, here are my 2 cents: Billionaires should not exist. Elon musk is a nazi & billionaire, 2 good reasons to avoid giving him any money, so fuck twitter/x. I don't know much about bluesky but that it's funded by private investors so it will likely become another twitter one day, becaus

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Richard Sargent
Perhaps we can return to the original assertion: " Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints. " That has nothing to do with Pharo, so I for one would rather not see non-Pharo discussions on Pharo lists/ch

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread peter
are you sending me threats? As I said, I have not posted anything in this thread. Peter Kenny From: Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-users Sent: 19 February 2025 21:23 To: Peter Kenny Cc: Esteban Lorenzano Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon lol, "far left".

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Steve Quezadas
I generally skew left on social programs, but have conservative opinions on monetary policy, for instance. However, I am deeply concerned how the far left shuts down any political debate that even slightly disagree with their viewpoint and ban people for stating otherwise. Calling someone "nazi" a

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Richard O'Keefe
Pharo people should go on whatever social media Pharo people want to go on. I shall not follow because social media seem to bring out the worst in people whatever the topic or platform. I am thrilled to the very socks with this mailing list and deeply grateful to the Pharo developers for the time

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-users
lol, "far left". Far left is to consider that we need a revolution to overthrown the ruling class (the the bourgeoisie) in order to socialize de means of production. Not to consider that every human being has the right to consider themselves as they please and makes them feel more in sync with

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Steve Quezadas
The pharo community is going the way of the python community. Where perfectly acceptable political opinions ("trans women are not real women") are suppressed under the guise of "breaks community standards".I've noticed more and more programming groups have gone so far left because of echo chamber f

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread sducasseatwork--- via Pharo-users
Hello steven We have a great community and we should not throw away the baby with the water of the bath (sorry for english readers I do not know if the direct translation of a french expression makes any sense but you can probably get it). We will do what we want and do not care about people t

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread sducasseatwork--- via Pharo-users
Please respect the choice of the board. If you do not like it, just drop of the list. S > Oh come on, BlueSky is TruthSocial for leftists. Twitter is FAR more tolerant > of differing viewpoints, andI am a leftist myself. > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:38 AM Norbert Hartl

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Steve Quezadas
Yes, call anyone that disagrees with your political viewpoints "nazis". Actual nazis ripped people from their homes and murdered millions. Stop being so dramatic. No one is going to take you seriously until you come and join the rest of us in reality. On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 2:35 AM Steven Costiou

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Steven Costiou
This is how nazi work: they infiltrate communities and their only contribution is to jump into discussions to fight anything related to people wanting to be safe from their bullshit. He did the same thing (with others) a few years ago for the code convenant stuff. He is doing this right now a

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Steve Quezadas
Oh come on, BlueSky is TruthSocial for leftists. Twitter is FAR more tolerant of differing viewpoints, andI am a leftist myself. On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:38 AM Norbert Hartl wrote: > I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the "wrong > political opinion". It works either way.

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Norbert Hartl
I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the "wrong political opinion". It works either way. The way you experience it is not so much an artefact of the social media platform but the mindset you have. Norbert > Am 19.02.2025 um 10:00 schrieb Steve Quezadas : > > Bluesky is a

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-19 Thread Steve Quezadas
Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints. On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > Thanks a lot. > > It's refreshing to see more people participat

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon

2025-02-18 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Thanks a lot. It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called #eXodus and having better forms to connect. Cheers, Offray On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote: Hello, Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)