I don’t know how I have been copied into this thread. I have not posted
anything on this topic, because I don’t understand what it’s all about. It
looks as though Stephane Ducasse wrote to thank me for renewing my membership,
and somehow my name was repeated in later posts. Please, Esteban, why are you
sending me threats? As I said, I have not posted anything in this thread.
Peter Kenny
From: Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-users <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
Sent: 19 February 2025 21:23
To: Peter Kenny <pe...@pbkresearch.co.uk>
Cc: Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@netc.eu>
Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon
lol, "far left".
Far left is to consider that we need a revolution to overthrown the ruling
class (the the bourgeoisie) in order to socialize de means of production. Not
to consider that every human being has the right to consider themselves as they
please and makes them feel more in sync with the world, without being abused by
people that believes they have the right to judge others choices.
But go ahead, "leftist"... what else you consider is a perfectly acceptable
opinion ? (Is just a rhetorical question, I really do not want to hear your
opinions). No wonder why you feel better at twitter than any other option...
but hey, we are not forbidding you to go deep in that shithole and express your
''leftist' self there along with all the other leftists that hang along with
Elon Musk and other fascists (or alike) like him.
Esteban
ps: another "perfectly reasonable" opinion like that and you will get a ban
from our lists, not just from bluesky. But don't worry, you will be able to go
and protest to twitter.
On 2/19/25 22:05, Steve Quezadas wrote:
The pharo community is going the way of the python community. Where perfectly
acceptable political opinions ("trans women are not real women") are suppressed
under the guise of "breaks community standards".I've noticed more and more
programming groups have gone so far left because of echo chamber feedback
loops. They, as a result, don't see how crazy they make themselves look to
normal people.
People who disagree with your political opinions are not "nazis". You are being
unfair to the 50% of people who have a differing opinion.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:23 AM sducasseatwork--- via Pharo-users
<pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > wrote:
Hello steven
We have a great community and we should not throw away the baby with the water
of the bath (sorry for english readers
I do not know if the direct translation of a french expression makes any sense
but you can probably get it).
We will do what we want and do not care about people that do not contribute and
not in a positive mindset.
Let us continue to make Pharo great and fun because it is a great and fun
system.
I will continue to focus on PRs that improve Pharo.
No need to reply to this thread because I put a filter to trash any emails :)
S,
On 19 Feb 2025, at 11:35, Steven Costiou <steven.cost...@kloum.io
<mailto:steven.cost...@kloum.io> > wrote:
This is how nazi work: they infiltrate communities and their only contribution
is to jump into discussions to fight anything related to people wanting to be
safe from their bullshit.
He did the same thing (with others) a few years ago for the code convenant
stuff.
He is doing this right now again.
The vocabulary is all there: "echo-chamber", "wrong political opinion",
"tolerant", "leftist"... just all the nazi words they try to impose in
community discussions.
Once we accept, we lose.
Nice and diplomatic discussions do not work with nazis.
So why are we tolerating this? He is not even contributing to Pharo.
Between this and the guy who harasses my students at ESUG, I wonder what
fucking bullshit community we have become.
I have nothing to do anymore in this community.
Steven.
Le 19/02/2025 à 11:06, Steve Quezadas a écrit :
Oh come on, BlueSky is TruthSocial for leftists. Twitter is FAR more tolerant
of differing viewpoints, andI am a leftist myself.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:38 AM Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name
<mailto:norb...@hartl.name> > wrote:
I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the "wrong political
opinion". It works either way. The way you experience it is not so much an
artefact of the social media platform but the mindset you have.
Norbert
Am 19.02.2025 um 10:00 schrieb Steve Quezadas < <mailto:steve...@gmail.com>
steve...@gmail.com>:
Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong political
opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
<offray.l...@mutabit.com <mailto:offray.l...@mutabit.com> > wrote:
Thanks a lot.
It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called #eXodus
and having better forms to connect.
Cheers,
Offray
On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Bluesky:
> https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
>
> We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
>
> https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
>
>
> Marcus
