Does anyone physically know this Steven Costiou person? Honest question, is he mentally ill? Reason I am asking is that he knows nothing about me, but immediately brands me as "nazi" based off of two things I said: - I like Elon Musk - I don't like BlueSky
He seems serious about it too. My guess is that he's "terminally online" and has formed a very warped perception of reality due to too much exposure to social media echo chambers (aka "brain rot"). But maybe i'm wrong and there's something I'm missing here. - Steve On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:00 AM Steven Costiou <steven.cost...@kloum.io> wrote: > Go fuck yourself with Hitler! > > It's going to be political because we want it, and because we want NAZIS > OUT! > > I mean, try to be clever for once: everybody knows the play of "it's > purely technical", "we must be neutral and accept all political views", > "everybody is welcome", all that to actually shutdown any discussion (and > so the leftists are the one cancelling your opinions...good joke...). > > No it's not purely technical, no we're not neutral, NO EVERYBODY IS NOT > WELCOME! ESPECIALLY NOT NAZIS. > > > > Le 20/02/2025 à 09:51, d...@radpac.co.za a écrit : > > All Pharo users should be here. Political views, including yours, have no > place here. > > Keep the discussion 100% Pharo. This a purely technical group. We should > have no interest in each others political views. Even Hitler himself could > participate. > > Kind Regards > Dave Langley > > On 20/02/2025 10:36, Steven Costiou wrote: > > Can we ban him already? > > Is this not proof enough that he's on the nazi side?? > > Are we "tolerating nazis"??? > > > Le 20/02/2025 à 03:16, Steve Quezadas a écrit : > > There is no evidence that elon Musk is a "nazi" and i am baffled that > seemingly everyone on this list thinks he is. There is ZERO evidence. Also, > I am a big fan of his. I admire him greatly. And I am no adolf hitler fan > either. > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 4:59 PM Harald <harald.vicaire....@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello pharoers, here are my 2 cents: >> >> Billionaires should not exist. >> Elon musk is a nazi & billionaire, 2 good reasons to avoid giving him any >> money, so fuck twitter/x. >> I don't know much about bluesky but that it's funded by private investors >> so it will likely become another twitter one day, because the capital >> always support the fascists. >> >> Cheers >> >> On Thu, 20 Feb 2025, 12:48 Richard Sargent, < >> richard.sarg...@gemtalksystems.com> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps we can return to the original assertion: >>> " Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong >>> political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints. " >>> >>> That has nothing to do with Pharo, so I for one would rather not see >>> non-Pharo discussions on Pharo lists/channels/fora/whatever. >>> >>> Perhaps, you could take your political discussions, your gender >>> discussions, your sexuality discussions, etc. to some other, more relevant >>> forum. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:06 PM Steve Quezadas <steve...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The pharo community is going the way of the python community. Where >>>> perfectly acceptable political opinions ("trans women are not real women") >>>> are suppressed under the guise of "breaks community standards".I've noticed >>>> more and more programming groups have gone so far left because of echo >>>> chamber feedback loops. They, as a result, don't see how crazy they make >>>> themselves look to normal people. >>>> >>>> People who disagree with your political opinions are not "nazis". You >>>> are being unfair to the 50% of people who have a differing opinion. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:23 AM sducasseatwork--- via Pharo-users < >>>> pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello steven >>>>> >>>>> We have a great community and we should not throw away the baby with >>>>> the water of the bath (sorry for english readers >>>>> I do not know if the direct translation of a french expression makes >>>>> any sense but you can probably get it). >>>>> >>>>> We will do what we want and do not care about people that do not >>>>> contribute and not in a positive mindset. >>>>> Let us continue to make Pharo great and fun because it is a great and >>>>> fun system. >>>>> >>>>> I will continue to focus on PRs that improve Pharo. >>>>> >>>>> No need to reply to this thread because I put a filter to trash any >>>>> emails :) >>>>> >>>>> S, >>>>> >>>>> On 19 Feb 2025, at 11:35, Steven Costiou <steven.cost...@kloum.io> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is how nazi work: they infiltrate communities and their only >>>>> contribution is to jump into discussions to fight anything related to >>>>> people wanting to be safe from their bullshit. >>>>> >>>>> He did the same thing (with others) a few years ago for the code >>>>> convenant stuff. >>>>> He is doing this right now again. >>>>> >>>>> The vocabulary is all there: "echo-chamber", "wrong political >>>>> opinion", "tolerant", "leftist"... just all the nazi words they try to >>>>> impose in community discussions. >>>>> Once we accept, we lose. >>>>> >>>>> Nice and diplomatic discussions do not work with nazis. >>>>> So why are we tolerating this? He is not even contributing to Pharo. >>>>> >>>>> Between this and the guy who harasses my students at ESUG, I wonder >>>>> what fucking bullshit community we have become. >>>>> >>>>> I have nothing to do anymore in this community. >>>>> >>>>> Steven. >>>>> >>>>> Le 19/02/2025 à 11:06, Steve Quezadas a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Oh come on, BlueSky is TruthSocial for leftists. Twitter is FAR more >>>>> tolerant of differing viewpoints, andI am a leftist myself. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:38 AM Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the "wrong >>>>>> political opinion". It works either way. The way you experience it is not >>>>>> so much an artefact of the social media platform but the mindset you >>>>>> have. >>>>>> >>>>>> Norbert >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 19.02.2025 um 10:00 schrieb Steve Quezadas <steve...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong >>>>>> political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < >>>>>> offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks a lot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called >>>>>>> #eXodus >>>>>>> and having better forms to connect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Offray >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>>>> > Hello, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Bluesky: >>>>>>> > https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Marcus >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >