Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [SURVEY] Code Critics Usage

2015-05-05 Thread kilon alios
Done ! On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 1:46 AM Sergio Fedi wrote: > Done!​ >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] MorphicDoc : A project to document Morphic

2015-04-12 Thread kilon alios
Thanks I was joking about gitfiletree I am sure I will be fine Στις 12 Απρ 2015 10:18 π.μ., ο χρήστης "p...@highoctane.be" < p...@highoctane.be> έγραψε: > > Le 11 avr. 2015 20:00, "kilon alios" a écrit : > > > > yes I am aware of your merge driver, wi

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] MorphicDoc : A project to document Morphic

2015-04-12 Thread kilon alios
Thanks will read for now as first feature will be to connect gtspotter to help tool Στις 12 Απρ 2015 4:40 μ.μ., ο χρήστης "Sean P. DeNigris" < s...@clipperadams.com> έγραψε: > kilon.alios wrote > > My goal is quite diffirent I want a more dynamic documentation > > Ys!! It is a shame that the d

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] MorphicDoc : A project to document Morphic

2015-04-12 Thread kilon alios
focus there. kilon -- That's awesome! How would you feel about also adding some of those docs into the Morphic chapter of PBE? (Or, if you dont have the bandwidth, would you be opposed to someone else doing that?) On Saturday, April 11, 2015, kilon alios wrote: > One of the frequent q

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] MorphicDoc : A project to document Morphic

2015-04-12 Thread kilon alios
my pleasure Στις 11 Απρ 2015 9:19 μ.μ., ο χρήστης "Sean P. DeNigris" < s...@clipperadams.com> έγραψε: > > kilon.alios wrote > > I decided to start my own project called MorphicDoc > > Great! Thanks :) > > > > - > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Mor

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] MorphicDoc : A project to document Morphic

2015-04-11 Thread kilon alios
, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Hi Kilon, > > Le 11/04/2015 19:42, kilon alios a écrit : > >> sure any help is welcomed . >> >> Contributing is the usual github workflow, you fork and send me pull >> requests (I would like to use this opportunity to test to see how well &g

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] MorphicDoc : A project to document Morphic

2015-04-11 Thread kilon alios
sure any help is welcomed . Contributing is the usual github workflow, you fork and send me pull requests (I would like to use this opportunity to test to see how well pull request works with gitfiletree). Creating the documentation is also quite simple, if you open the help tool has a section of

[Pharo-users] [ANN] MorphicDoc : A project to document Morphic

2015-04-11 Thread kilon alios
One of the frequent questions we get asked is how to use Morphic. Unfortunately there is very little documentation for Morphic around and barely touches the most interesting concepts. I decided to start my own project called MorphicDoc . MorphicDoc is very easy to install with Configuration Browse

Re: [Pharo-users] GitHub Mirror Workflow

2015-04-08 Thread kilon alios
probably I kinda cheat, I use the smalltalkhub repo as nothing more than a shell for my github repo. I commit to it only my configuration which in turn loads the code from github . I have done this with Ephestos and Nireas , the configuration browsers entries just load the baseline from my github r

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread kilon alios
catalogKeywords > ^ #(cocoon configuration manager documentation) > > You can also look on the configuration of other application like Pillar > etc... > > On 7 April 2015 at 14:47, kilon alios wrote: > >> do the first and second return strings ? >> >> for

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread kilon alios
todo. > > Esteban > > > On 07 Apr 2015, at 14:13, kilon alios wrote: > > Esteban about how to add projects to catalog page. Could you add examples > of those methods ? For example are they suppose to return values ? How > should they be defined ? > > I want to add

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread kilon alios
Esteban about how to add projects to catalog page. Could you add examples of those methods ? For example are they suppose to return values ? How should they be defined ? I want to add info for my project Ephestos On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > http://catalog.pharo.or

Re: [Pharo-users] IconFactory - utility for creating icons in Pharo

2015-04-05 Thread kilon alios
yes exactly On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:16 AM, kilon alios wrote: > >> >> "Maybe we are not talking about the same thing ?" >> >> We do I just brought an alternative. My initial question is why

Re: [Pharo-users] IconFactory - utility for creating icons in Pharo

2015-04-05 Thread kilon alios
"SVG is human readable (XML based), no ?" yeap , XML format , nothing special. Athens has an importer for them. "If they are not too large, it might even be quite useful to store them as strings in the image, although I do agree this is not scalable in the end. (But Seaside uses this mechanism to

Re: [Pharo-users] IconFactory - utility for creating icons in Pharo

2015-04-05 Thread kilon alios
"Maybe we are not talking about the same thing ?" We do I just brought an alternative. My initial question is why this data is not stored inside a Collection and instead individual methods are preferred. But now that I thought it through I understand in practice would not make much difference. An

Re: [Pharo-users] IconFactory - utility for creating icons in Pharo

2015-04-04 Thread kilon alios
re-use), > because with separate entries you can browse them more easily, because we > don't like long methods, ... You get the idea ;-) > > > On 04 Apr 2015, at 16:45, kilon alios wrote: > > > > once more I really dont like idea of methods returning single values.

Re: [Pharo-users] IconFactory - utility for creating icons in Pharo

2015-04-04 Thread kilon alios
ptions about the file name and since it is naming > the method like the file it fails, because you can't have "-" in method > name. > I could change it so it removes all non-alphanumeric characters from the > name. > > Peter > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 3:52 PM,

Re: [Pharo-users] IconFactory - utility for creating icons in Pharo

2015-04-04 Thread kilon alios
I found the problem "Norse_largeThe '-' prefix works only for literal numbers (use #negated instead) -> -cpcIconContents "Private - Method generated with the content of the file File @ /Users/kilon/Downloads/Norse_large-cpc.png"" looks like it does not like that i use "-" inside the file name

Re: [Pharo-users] IconFactory - utility for creating icons in Pharo

2015-04-04 Thread kilon alios
create file ? i thought the class only creates methods anyway, the method is created , but it does not proceed to next png. Shouldn create a method for each png it finds in the directory ? On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:46 PM, kilon alios wr

Re: [Pharo-users] IconFactory - utility for creating icons in Pharo

2015-04-04 Thread kilon alios
actually i was wrong its not that large, only 34kbs , I have also attached it if you want to take a look at it. On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > createIconsFromDirectory seems to see only the first png, maybe because >> its too large >> > how large? > > createIconFromFile giv

Re: [Pharo-users] IconFactory - utility for creating icons in Pharo

2015-04-04 Thread kilon alios
yes thats better , install works, first step works too. createIconsFromDirectory seems to see only the first png, maybe because its too large. createIconFromFile gives me a MNU: ByteString >> base [1]. Why those methods are not on the class side ? [1]ByteString(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #base

Re: [Pharo-users] IconFactory - utility for creating icons in Pharo

2015-04-04 Thread kilon alios
Tried your install instructions but give me an error[1] about being unable to resolve IconFactory , tries to look inside my package-cache of my image (pharo 4 - 40591 -MACOSX 10). Interesting tool, out of coincidence I am also working with icons but in my cases its SVG icons using Bloc . [1] Meta

Re: [Pharo-users] Tabs in Playground ?

2015-04-03 Thread kilon alios
No its not possible. There is a workaround which is kinda ironic. You can use the old workspace as a container for multiple Playgrounds, each tab will contain a new playground. So issues the command Workspace open in a plaground and then go to the righ menu (down arrow) , choose window group and

Re: [Pharo-users] what to use for simple parsing

2015-04-02 Thread kilon alios
yeap you use what makes your life easier ;) On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:49 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Sure works. > > Regex > > '((XXX Logical Channel) ([0-9])) on (((Upstream)|(Downstream)) ([0-9])) on > ((chassis) ([0-9])), ((slot) ([0-9])), ((mac) ([0-9]))' asRegex > > But in PP, things we

Re: [Pharo-users] what to use for simple parsing

2015-04-02 Thread kilon alios
"I used Regex at first to do the job but it turned into an unholy mess (not that it couldn't parse what I needed) and PetitParser was there." it really depends how you approach this. For example in my case I quickly found out that would be insane to put everything in a single string, so I broke t

Re: [Pharo-users] what to use for simple parsing

2015-04-02 Thread kilon alios
depends on your needs. I never used regex before , pharo regex was my first. I used on a specific case that was quite simple. I love its simplicity and its extremely compact syntax. Perfect fit for my needs, one very happy customer :) I think it depends on complexity of the parsing and how you lik

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
" is because that’s the description of the version (or baseline), not the project description (that’s the place of #catalogDescription, and that’s why it is on class side: is more durable). cheers, Esteban" ah ok makes sense now. Will do thanks.

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
"yes, check “a note to developers” link :)" > yeap thats an obvious one, should have clicked that in the first place. Question: I see you ask for dedicate methods. In this case catalogDescription . Is it really necessary , metacello spec already offers sped description: which my project already t

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

2015-03-31 Thread kilon alios
you are not alone. As a matter of fact my iMac's MacOS runs also windows 8 and ubuntu 14 in the Virtualbox VM. I was tempted to install windows as dual boot on my iMac because of a game I really like (Smite) but the temptation has not been strong enough. In any case supporting most platforms is my

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

2015-03-30 Thread kilon alios
more linux than mac ? thats a surprise . On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > Hi, > > I've made a quick poll because I'm interested in the distribution of Pharo > users among OSes. > It's a single anonymous question, so it shouldn't take more than five > seconds to complete :)

Re: [Pharo-users] Introduction to OOP for UPBE was: Some new book chapters :)

2015-03-29 Thread kilon alios
wrote: > Hello, > > > [..] no need to list the chapters, I know the book. > > > Le 29/03/2015 16:43, kilon alios a écrit : > > > The iink your provided is a reference documentation and I dont like > > this kind of documentation sinking inside theory with few practical &g

Re: [Pharo-users] Introduction to OOP for UPBE was: Some new book chapters :)

2015-03-29 Thread kilon alios
documentation sinking inside theory with few practical examples. Quite the opposite of PBE and frankly a really bad way to teach coding especially to a newcomer and someone unfamiliar with OOP. On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Hilaire wrote: > Le 29/03/2015 15:18, kilon alios a écrit : >

[Pharo-users] Introduction to OOP for UPBE was: Some new book chapters :)

2015-03-29 Thread kilon alios
I would like the opinion of the community on this. I have discussed the addition of an introduction to OOP back when I was very actively contributing to UPBE and the response I got was very positive. The plan was similar to what I mentioned, just bare basics , making sure that the reader understand

Re: [Pharo-users] Some new book chapters :)

2015-03-29 Thread kilon alios
"It does not emphasize the key features of OOP - message sending and late binding - or the tremendous benefits." I am glad it does not , because if it did , it would be not a Introductory chapter to OOP. "This is an important topic that should be written about by a master OOP practitioner." Good

Re: [Pharo-users] Some new book chapters :)

2015-03-28 Thread kilon alios
great work guys. there is also one incoming for UPBE , an intro to OOP. On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:39 PM, stepharo wrote: > Hi guys > > Here are new book chapters > >Teapot Rest extension on top of Zinc > https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/EnterprisePharo/tree/master/ > Teapot > >

Re: [Pharo-users] New success stories

2015-03-28 Thread kilon alios
The gui looks really impressive, I would be interested into more info about it, the technology you used the general design etc On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianop...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am part of the development of Quuve. The site is not yet online (i

Re: [Pharo-users] Notebook/slideshow morph

2015-03-28 Thread kilon alios
very cool demo Sean, great job :) This chord keyb shortcuts look very useful. I have though doing something similar in the past. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > stepharo wrote > > I can open a slideshow, create page, drop morph on it, mark a page as > > template and

Re: [Pharo-users] New success stories

2015-03-28 Thread kilon alios
yeap looks beautiful, they use a html front end like almost all pharo success stories. But the link to their website does work for me, it gives me a blank page. Anyone else with this problem ? On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Hilaire wrote: > Le 28/03/2015 08:43, stepharo a écrit : > > http://p

Re: [Pharo-users] what to use for simple parsing

2015-03-28 Thread kilon alios
PettitParser provides a more Pharo orientated syntax. SmaCC uses syntax very similar to regex. SmaCC comes with a lot of parser for programming languages. I chose SmaCC because a) the syntax is very compact and it allows me a bird's eye view over the overall syntax definition, but also more diffi

Re: [Pharo-users] Boardician (board game framework)

2015-03-26 Thread kilon alios
I am taking a look at your code and I dont understand something you have in BgEatBullet package EMonster1Mover, EMonster2Mover , EMonster3Mover and EMonster4Mover. All four classes are identical apart from the return values in some methods. Why not use 1 class and 4 instances of that class instead

Re: [Pharo-users] Boardician (board game framework)

2015-03-26 Thread kilon alios
" @kilon Mail me back if you do develop a game adding from you graphical capabilities. " hmm making a board game sound like a very nice idea indeed. Will keep you posted, definitely I am making something :)

Re: [Pharo-users] USB in Pharo?

2015-03-25 Thread kilon alios
seems that this was the only showstopper as TalkFFI just generated a > binding for the whole library w/o any problem. > > I'll start experimenting now ... > > CU, > > Udo > > > On 24/03/15 17:33, kilon alios wrote: > >> If the library is big you can use TalkFFI

Re: [Pharo-users] How to depend on another Github repo from the baseline ?

2015-03-25 Thread kilon alios
Thank you both, I changed my code accordingly to load SmaCC as the example of Thierry.

Re: [Pharo-users] USB in Pharo?

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
If the library is big you can use TalkFFI (you will find it in smalltalkhub) that automates the wrapping with nativeboost. On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Udo Schneider wrote: > I guess not :-) > > I'll try to wrap libUSB then. > > I assume the future-proof way to use "a" FFI framework is to us

Re: [Pharo-users] Boardician (board game framework)

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
Well done Laura. I really enjoyed your games and I definitely welcome your documentation. I will give it a try , thank you . On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Laura Risani wrote: > Hi all, > > A time ago i posted two board games on the list and Stéphane said that he > would like to extract from

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Launcher Windows 8.1

2015-03-21 Thread kilon alios
Is this also a topic for the pharo bug list, or is there another place >>> where I can mention this? >>> >>> Sebastian >>> >>> > >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:46 AM, kilon alios >> wrote: >> >>> there is also an

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Launcher Windows 8.1

2015-03-20 Thread kilon alios
there is also an options in settings that downloads and install sources for you automagically. This is the right place to report issues and if you are 100% sure its a bug you can report it also in the pharo fogbuz On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink wrote: > Hi, > > I recently

[Pharo-users] How to depend on another Github repo from the baseline ?

2015-03-17 Thread kilon alios
I have this very simple baseline for Ephestos baseline: spec spec for: #pharo do: [ spec package: 'Ephestos' with: [Metacello new baseline: 'SmaCC'; repository: 'github://ThierryGoubier/SmaCC'; load] ]. The above code works fine for me. The user can instal

Re: [Pharo-users] Error while loading GitFileTree in Pharo 4.0

2015-03-16 Thread kilon alios
Smacc looks to load fine using its Github repo instructions. So far it works ok too. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Le 16/03/2015 20:27, kilon alios a écrit : > >> Oh boy ... >> >> If I try to install Smacc from configuraton browser it crash

Re: [Pharo-users] Error while loading GitFileTree in Pharo 4.0

2015-03-16 Thread kilon alios
odsIn: WorldMorph>>runStepMethods WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: WorldState>>doOneCycleFor: WorldMorph>>doOneCycle [ [ World doOneCycle. Processor yield. false ] whileFalse: [ ] ] in MorphicUIManager>>spawnNewProcess in Block: [ ... [ self value. Processor terminateActive

Re: [Pharo-users] Error while loading GitFileTree in Pharo 4.0

2015-03-16 Thread kilon alios
pushing > your parsers to the new version, no? > > Thierry > > Le 16/03/2015 19:18, kilon alios a écrit : > >> Thierry this is not your lucky week , Smacc is also fails to load from >> Configuration Browser with PrimitiveFailed: primitive #basicNew: in >> ByteString class failed >> > > Snip ... > >

Re: [Pharo-users] using spotter to navigate through the file system

2015-03-12 Thread kilon alios
"Images should appear fine. What images are you missing?" hmm it looks like I am missing the preview panel altogether. Is this committed to Pharo 4 ? I got the latest Pharo 4 image just now. "In the meantime, you can add a simple presentation that allows you to change the file in your packages :)

Re: [Pharo-users] using spotter to navigate through the file system

2015-03-12 Thread kilon alios
Really impressive stuff. Looks like GTSpotter does not understand "~" for home folder. It also does not preview images as gtinspector can and also fails to preview text files that dont have a .txt extension like for example .profile again GTInspector has no problem previewing. Is it possible to mo

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar parser rewrite: PetitParser or not?

2015-03-12 Thread kilon alios
It would be nice to have a parser to rule them all. I am currently using SmaCC and gets the job done. I really like its condense syntax and its syntax tool but also love the smalltalky feel of pettit parser. Maybe one must bite the bullet and write perfomance critical parts in C or even use a C pa

Re: [Pharo-users] Dealing with multiple cases of a string while keeping code short and OOP friendly

2015-03-10 Thread kilon alios
I have seen a similar pattern in Kent Beck book Smalltalk Patterns , but I was not sure this was a good way to go in this case . So I thought that would not hurt to ask for a second opinion from a more experienced Pharo coder. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > kilon.al

Re: [Pharo-users] Dealing with multiple cases of a string while keeping code short and OOP friendly

2015-03-09 Thread kilon alios
oh Sean this so beautiful and elegant, exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much. The rest of your code is what I was thinking doing with regex instead. This was the part I was not aware of class := self subclasses detect: [ :c | c pythonClassName = pythonClassName On Mon, Mar 9,

[Pharo-users] Dealing with multiple cases of a string while keeping code short and OOP friendly

2015-03-09 Thread kilon alios
So I am parsing strings that represent python types and other custom objects. An example would be '' or '' etc But I dont want to use too many ifTrue , ifFalse and end up with a long method. So I was thinking creating a OrderedCollection that would be 2D , first dimension is the regex that fits

Re: [Pharo-users] Rép: Re: I need to put smalltalkhub down (max 30m)

2015-03-09 Thread kilon alios
yes but they complain about your surprise and you complain about not complaining , so with all do respect, I have to complain about your complaining , makes my complaining difficult. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:40 PM, julien wrote: > I m not complaining i m just surprised :p > > Norbert Hartl a éc

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo / J - Integration

2015-03-08 Thread kilon alios
yeap the more the merrier. There is also JNIPort for Java. I really like this approach because he is using a dll. I am using sockets for python which is much slower. But I was thinking porting to this approach too. He basically created a dll (Jinter.dll) that calls the J language and then Pharo u

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar multiline comment

2015-03-08 Thread kilon alios
code examples are made like this [[[ Transcript show: 'hello"; show: ' world"; cr;]]] There is also additional syntax if your language is not smalltalk and some other stuff. Take a look at pillar docs. you can also have a workaround for multi line commen

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-03-03 Thread kilon alios
also forgot to add that now I am using gitfiletree and it has been a very smooth ride. Works great with Ubuntu and Macos and I tested it across computers. Thank you for your hard work. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:42 PM, kilon alios wrote: > > "It's because it is on a particular

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-03-03 Thread kilon alios
"It's because it is on a particular parse you have a single item; on another you may have two; etc... It becomes easier then to have an OrderedCollection containing one or more elements. The same code works." yes I understand the intention. Now it clear and no longer confusing ;) "Which classes a

Re: [Pharo-users] Statistics package in Pharo?

2015-03-03 Thread kilon alios
I use class method for generic actions that are not to be performed per instance of data. But if I have multiple instances of data then instance methods make more sense. Some classes offer both instance and class methods doing the same process. So in the end its up to you there is no golden rule.

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-03-03 Thread kilon alios
"Because this two productions define a list of stmt (possibly empty) and the AST generation code notices that, so it adds an s to statement and prepare that instance variable to be an OrderedCollection." yes but I find it a bit misleading because even when there is a single element it still going

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-03-01 Thread kilon alios
I have this grammar definition in the python parser file_input: {{}} | file_input {{}} | file_input stmt 'statement' {{}} ; So I would expect a) the class to be name Pyfile_inputNode , instead is named PyFileInputNode, why ? b) I would expect a "statement" instance variable in that c

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

2015-02-21 Thread kilon alios
I see , good advise,I will try to keep it in mind next time , thanks On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > I guess he means "fast" = "soon". Don't talk too long at a static screen. > video ==> motion ==> interest. > cheers -ben > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

2015-02-21 Thread kilon alios
tings, things get cleared up and >> people are getting a good handle on all of it... >> >> to the point that during regular work, i am starting to hear "i wish we >> (ruby ecosystem) had (insert ST goodness) here.." >> >> On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 12:07:0

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

2015-02-20 Thread kilon alios
te 6 new converts into the fold. it is kind of confusing for everyone > at first.. but during our meetings, things get cleared up and people are > getting a good handle on all of it... > > to the point that during regular work, i am starting to hear "i wish we > (ruby ecos

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

2015-02-20 Thread kilon alios
I work with Pharo 4 and no longer use Pharo 3, its very stable I have not experienced any kind of problem with it except one with autocompletion when I was hacking Pharo themes for my Nirreas project. Definetly recommend it to you to switch just for GTSpotter alone and many other new nice things.

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo and ui again

2015-02-12 Thread kilon alios
> you don’t like and why. Otherwise there will never be advances and it’s > annoying to hear the same vague complaints all over again ... > > On Feb 12, 2015, at 15:28, kilon alios wrote: > > Frankly big libraries dont make much sense for me when it comes to Pharo. > Sure if we

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo and ui again

2015-02-12 Thread kilon alios
this what makes future so exciting , its unpredictable nature. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > 2015-02-12 14:35 GMT+01:00 kilon alios : > >> And there lies your problem. You dont agree with me and I dont agree with >> you and the next guy wont ag

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo and ui again

2015-02-12 Thread kilon alios
? Or are you a Spec contributor already ? On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Johan Fabry wrote: > > Kilon, it’s not nice of you to say that I have a problem. I have an > opinion, not a problem. > > And I’m saying that we have 4 developers at most, not 10. > > > On Feb 12, 201

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo and ui again

2015-02-12 Thread kilon alios
abry wrote: > > On Feb 12, 2015, at 10:12, kilon alios wrote: > > All of the above frameworks have tons of users so one thing that this > shows us is that fragmentation is really beneficial to a community. The > reason is simple, > > GUI is so complex subject but there wil

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo and ui again

2015-02-12 Thread kilon alios
One note on the GUI situation of Pharo. The situation of Pharo is pretty much the same situation for most programming languages. I am coming from python and the situation is pretty much the same but scaled up to the size of the python community which is huge. So instead like pharo of having 6 or 7

Re: [Pharo-users] Nautilus groups

2015-02-12 Thread kilon alios
I don't use groups because already pharo implement a fair share of grouping mechanism. For my needs package tags serve me very well and I have not so far a practical need to group things from different packages. When I want to browser diffrent classes at the same time I use window groups and I am v

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-02-11 Thread kilon alios
to go beyond python types. If the need arises and no py3 parser exists I will of course make it myself and send you a pull request. I am so grateful that already SmaCC has saved me from so much work , thanks to all people contributing to SmaCC , one very happy customer :D On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 a

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-02-11 Thread kilon alios
me of the > Smalltalk Python Cmodel classes from there. > > Sebastian > > > Am 10.02.2015 um 23:24 schrieb kilon alios: > > Ok so after rereading the tutorial and testing again and again , I think I > have finally managed to understand how SmaCC really works and I was > succ

Re: [Pharo-users] get them while they are young

2015-02-11 Thread kilon alios
"I've found most of the changes we've made to be low level enough that PBE is still a great reference." Are we using the same Pharo ? Because my Pharo has massively improved since version 1.4 and has major changes they are definitely not low level . Also PBE lacks fundamental material that I added

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-02-11 Thread kilon alios
"What you see is that, with the {{}}, I create PyAtomNode instances for all productions, even if it isn't appropriate. Maybe this should be changed like that for lists : | {{List}} | listmaker 'list' {{List}}" Both approaches you described a) adding instance methods to PyAtomNode that

Re: [Pharo-users] get them while they are young

2015-02-11 Thread kilon alios
Well done Martin, personally I would not recommend Pharo to beginner coders, but with Updated Pharo By Example near completion I may change my mind ;) On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Martin Bähr < mba...@email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: > here is the reaction of a student preparing for a GSoC

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-02-10 Thread kilon alios
how easily SmaCC can parse whole python applications since some of the test are very complex. Well done great work! On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:04 AM, kilon alios wrote: > thank for your congratulations, because at times I fear I ask too obvious > questions. I have to say I find this parsin

Re: [Pharo-users] Published some old games ...

2015-02-09 Thread kilon alios
htere were many patches and globals so this part would really need to > cleaning such StandardFonts which is a kind of registry. > Especially because FT are not polymorphic with StrikeFont. > > > > > Le 8/2/15 22:33, kilon alios a écrit : > > Does pharo come with its own standa

Re: [Pharo-users] Published some old games ...

2015-02-09 Thread kilon alios
icalfont that describes what you want >> then a logicial font is checking reality and you get a Strikefont? or >> a FT >> Now htere were many patches and globals so this part would really need to >> cleaning such StandardFonts which is a kind of registry. >> Especi

Re: [Pharo-users] Published some old games ...

2015-02-08 Thread kilon alios
Does pharo come with its own standard TTFs ? I am unfamiliar with how fonts work in Pharo exactly will take a look at mines and see what I can understand. On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 11:11 PM, stepharo wrote: > Thanks I do not get why it does not work with me. O_o > > Le 8/2/15 20:07, kilo

Re: [Pharo-users] Published some old games ...

2015-02-08 Thread kilon alios
Well done Stef . The artefact problem is gone and I have committed your configuration to MetaRepo4. On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:30 PM, stepharo wrote: > I fixed it. > Now this is a good example on how an application should embed its fonts. > > Stef > Le 8/2/15 19:12, kilo

Re: [Pharo-users] Published some old games ...

2015-02-08 Thread kilon alios
In case of mines I see now that each opened cell is a red box of doom . Apparently the morph DNU fontOfSize . Looks like StrikeFont class is the culprit used in MinesTile>>drawOn:

Re: [Pharo-users] Published some old games ...

2015-02-08 Thread kilon alios
black. > ^ aCanvas drawString: nearMines asString in: rct font: font > color: ((palette at: nearMines) ) .]. > ^self. ]. > > "solid color border" > aCanvas frameAndFillRectangle: bounds > fillColor: color > borderWidth: borderWidth >

Re: [Pharo-users] Published some old games ...

2015-02-08 Thread kilon alios
yes it works and I took the liberty to commit to the meta repo for pharo 4 , well done Stef :) On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 7:49 PM, stepharo wrote: > I fixed the configurationOfTetris but I cannot publish it to > MetaRepoForPharo40. > Can you copy it from my repo and try? > > I will verify all the o

Re: [Pharo-users] Published some old games ...

2015-02-08 Thread kilon alios
Thank you Stef, its great to have some games for Pharo :) Some issues 1) I cannot find ChineseChekers in conf browser 2) None of the 3 games comes with an easy way to open them. I had to use $GameName$ new openInWindow. 3) Tetris is giving me a MNU apparently it does not find the LedMorph class i

Re: [Pharo-users] Question on Morphic drawOn: method.

2015-02-05 Thread kilon alios
upload your code to smalltalkhub or github and lets take a look at it. Sharing your image is also a viable option On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, nacho <0800na...@gmail.com> wrote: > @Trygve > I've checked and it doesn't work. I can't even bring the halo on to delete > the morph. The debugger k

Re: [Pharo-users] Spotter: How to see more beyond #/##

2015-02-05 Thread kilon alios
because right controls the search input box cursor. Maybe a shortcut to switch focus between input search box and the search results panel could cut down the complexity of the shortcuts considerably. On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Maybe I'm not getting it but, Why not

Re: [Pharo-users] Question on Morphic drawOn: method.

2015-02-04 Thread kilon alios
alt+shift+left click should bring on the halo , the claw like icon has a menu with the debuger as an entry you can trigger to see whats wrong. You can also inspect the morph too and play around with it, very useful even when you got no errors. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:33 PM, nacho <0800na...@gmail

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
Yes sure , I agree, but why that does not apply to Pharo ? I would not want to use Pharo libraries that get changed and redesigned in each version and I have to rewrite my code. I could not even imagine the nightmare scenario of having a big code base and a language that keep changing. Python brok

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
well this is why I say its a weak spot. I dont disagree with everything you say. I do agree that a language like C++ goes to a very diffirent direction to Pharo and will attract diffirent kind of people, or even the same people with different set of goals. If you mean something more than that, the

Re: [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
"And also as someone pointed out during Pharo Days... to have tooltips above the buttons showing the shortcut." +1 GT tools have greatly enhanced the Pharo experience. I do think that GTInspector and GTPlayground could use a GUI cleanup in their design but GTSpotter is gorgeously well done. The n

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
The weak spot in your argument is that you use the worst example you can choose to prove it. Ruby. Ruby has two big issues for your line of arguments. First its popularity was build by a single man. A nomad. His name is David Heinemeier Hansson

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
now is in the "honeymoon" period of expanding and expanding , as new , fresh thing. But the more user it will get the more inflexible will become to change. That's a big price to pay for abandoning the nomad life. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
I do agree, that nomads do not build cathedrals but there is the flip side of the coin, why one would want to be a nomad and the great benefits coming with being a nomad Guido the creator of python explains it from the side of the Python Standard library but I think it applies fine for Pharo too

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-01-30 Thread kilon alios
herwise it falls > back to testlist... > > Thierry > > > >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Thierry Goubier < >> thierry.goub...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi kilon, >>> >>> The tests instance variable is linked to the pyt

Re: [Pharo-users] Implementing text navigation shortcuts

2015-01-30 Thread kilon alios
Just keep in mind that Rubric is just a bridge solution. The goal is to > adopt TxText as soon as possible. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:23 AM, kilon alios > wrote: > >> Can Rubric be used for displaying paragraphs etc ? I want to imp

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