Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

I did part of my job. I revisited all topics.pharo.org (in github soon on topics.pharo.org). Now I do not want to hear about GSOC. Stef Le 11/2/15 20:55, Stephan Eggermont a écrit : Ben wrote: Now google say... "Umbrella organizations get more slots. If an organization is acting as an umbrel

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Sebastian we maintain one single list for pharo topics (related or not to GSOC) I will not edit your item but you can do a pull request :) https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals Stef Le 11/2/15 19:37, Sebastian Sastre a écrit : Okay here comes some notes I’ve compiled:

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo and ui again

> On 12 Feb 2015, at 00:46, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > But much howtos or tutorials widely scattered and aren't up to date. Johan Fabry's talk at the Pharo Days was an excellent introduction to Spec, watch it.

Re: [Pharo-users] Nautilus groups

Excerpts from Christophe Demarey's message of 2015-02-10 14:28:19 +0100: > dynamic groups: 'Last modified packages', 'Most viewed classes', 'Work' i just discovered a problem, in that when a group is selected, some important items are missing from the content menu. in particular, "add package..."

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo and ui again

2015-02-11 23:28 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Heidbrink : > > Hi again! > > Well, we had an other Software Smalltalk Night and we want to try to make > a Smalltalk Kinect Fun project. > It was pretty easy to conenct the Kinect camera with a Squeak For Scratch > image. > That enabled everybody to easily get

[Pharo-users] pharo and ui again

Hi again! Well, we had an other Software Smalltalk Night and we want to try to make a Smalltalk Kinect Fun project. It was pretty easy to conenct the Kinect camera with a Squeak For Scratch image. That enabled everybody to easily get going. Since a few days I try to prepare further steps and I

Re: [Pharo-users] Getting notified when a morph moves

Le 11/02/2015 21:19, Stephan Eggermont a écrit : > I'm trying to keep a line morph connected between two morphs > while moving one of them. > When I add the morph to the hand and start dragging the morph > no longer receives mouseMove:. I can think of several ways to get > position updates. Is

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

> On 11 Feb 2015, at 20:33, Sebastian Sastre > wrote: > > >> On Feb 11, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo >> wrote: >> >> Syntax extensions (pluggable?): >> I know we have many alternatives, which I used and are more than >> acceptable , but I'd like to write JSON as close as possible

Re: [Pharo-users] Getting notified when a morph moves

Hi, I think you need to subscribe to the hand morph. It provides some possibilities. Of course if you drag morphs only inside it's parent, you can implement dragging by yourself without adding to hand. In this case mouseMove can be received. Cheers, Alex On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Stephan

[Pharo-users] Getting notified when a morph moves

I'm trying to keep a line morph connected between two morphs while moving one of them. When I add the morph to the hand and start dragging the morph no longer receives mouseMove:. I can think of several ways to get position updates. Is there a best/easy way? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Context would be nice to see how it might work with Pharo. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Martin Bähr < mba...@email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: > Excerpts from Sebastian Sastre's message of 2015-02-11 19:37:07 +0100: > > > Remote Environments for Pharo > > Implications: being able to inspect,

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Ben wrote: >Now google say... "Umbrella organizations get more slots. > If an organization is acting as an umbrella for other projects, chances are >we'll allocate more students to you simply because there's a great deal of >different types of work to be done, and we're hoping our students will

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Excerpts from Sebastian Sastre's message of 2015-02-11 19:37:07 +0100: > Remote Environments for Pharo > Implications: being able to inspect, browse and debug reliably a server Pharo > image from a client Pharo image would spark countless possibilities. Some of > them: server maintenance; hot de

Re: [Pharo-users] Problems evaluating message sends in run-time arrays

ᐧ Sean P. DeNigris wrote <<< Andy Burnett wrote > In both cases it evaluates to 'Color blue' rather than the Color object. 'Color blue' is the Color object you created and put in your array. It is aColor object. It's print string is 'Color blue'. See Color>>#printOn: for more info. >>> Ah, of c

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

> On Feb 11, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo > wrote: > > Syntax extensions (pluggable?): > I know we have many alternatives, which I used and are more than > acceptable , but I'd like to write JSON as close as possible to its > original syntax. +1 except I would not say that "I want to

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

2015-02-11 15:37 GMT-03:00 Sebastian Sastre : > Okay here comes some notes I’ve compiled: > SQL Alchemy for Pharo > Implications: Big-data is a growing market that is easy to mine with a tool > like Python’s SQL Alchemy. A Pharo version of such powerful tool would open > this market opportunity fo

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Okay here comes some notes I’ve compiled: VOSS for Pharo http://voss.logicarts.com/ Implications: a completely object oriented database industry proven would have a legacy and a open sourced release empowering Pharo users and startups to stay object oriented even w

Re: [Pharo-users] recover lost changes

Sean P. DeNigris wrote > I can not reproduce this... Okay, I see. It only happens when Nautilus (the browser) is on the class-side. Looking deeper, there is in general a flaw in Nautilus - at least in announcement handling - because it doesn't take class vs. metaclass into account. I started fixin

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

"Yes, if you find that appropriate or if they share some implementation bits (I'm not sure of the latter, but it may help to organise stuff). What you do is, in the grammar, you add a %hierarchy directive, like that: %hierarchy Atom (List Dictionary); And, at AST generation, SmaCC will inherit as

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

Well I tried in the past to use openqwaq , but what I learned from the experience is that sometimes understanding others code can be even more time consuming than remaking it yourself. I spent like an afternoon trying to understand openqwaq before starting Ephestos from complete scratch. Suffice to

Re: [Pharo-users] recover lost changes

Am 11.02.2015 18:18 schrieb "Nicolai Hess" : > > I remember at such case, missing comments after file in. I think we fixed it in 4.0 and back ported it too. > 14377 FileOut creates invalid comment entries for classes with class side methods And 14405

Re: [Pharo-users] recover lost changes

I remember at such case, missing comments after file in. I think we fixed it in 4.0 and back ported it too. Am 11.02.2015 17:47 schrieb "Sean P. DeNigris" : > Hartmut wrote > > I also lost class comments on file-out / file-in . > > I can not reproduce this in the lastest update (#30862). What imag

Re: [Pharo-users] get them while they are young

"I've found most of the changes we've made to be low level enough that PBE is still a great reference." Are we using the same Pharo ? Because my Pharo has massively improved since version 1.4 and has major changes they are definitely not low level . Also PBE lacks fundamental material that I added

Re: [Pharo-users] recover lost changes

Hartmut wrote > I also lost class comments on file-out / file-in . I can not reproduce this in the lastest update (#30862). What image update version do you have? You can find out via WorldMenu->System->About Also, when you say " - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://foru

Re: [Pharo-users] recover lost changes

Marcus Denker-4 wrote > The issue is here And the solution is right there in the comment! Pharo Issue Tracker wrote > ChangesLog default > is not registered for the SystemAnnouncer. > Reinitializing it should help: > ChangesLog reset;default. Works on both 3.0 and 4.0. I made a parent issue 149

Re: [Pharo-users] get them while they are young

kilon.alios wrote > I would not recommend Pharo to beginner coders, but with Updated Pharo By > Example near completion I may change my mind ;) I've found most of the changes we've made to be low level enough that PBE is still a great reference. And when Deep Into Pharo covered FileSystem, Metacel

Re: [Pharo-users] recover lost changes

> On 11 Feb 2015, at 16:31, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Stephan Eggermont wrote >> The current implementation > > +1. It is really bad, especially for new users, that we've let it go on this > long. It should have been fixed and backported to 3.0. > The issue is here: https://pharo.

Re: [Pharo-users] recover lost changes

Stephan Eggermont wrote > The current implementation +1. It is really bad, especially for new users, that we've let it go on this long. It should have been fixed and backported to 3.0. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/recover-lost-changes-tp4804929p4805

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Serge Stinckwich < serge.stinckw...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Martin Bähr > wrote: > > Excerpts from Serge Stinckwich's message of 2015-02-11 10:02:21 +0100: > >> with Uko, we are considering submitting the Pharo project as a > >> mento

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes file size

2015-02-11 10:02 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : >> ps: As said in another thread, Torsten's version (descendant of mine) >> didn't seem to have this issue. > Yes, we are making (some) progress. > Maybe we should promote the latest version to #stable ? I think we should, but there is something

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-02-11 11:16 GMT+01:00 kilon alios : > "What you see is that, with the {{}}, I create PyAtomNode instances for > all productions, even if it isn't appropriate. Maybe this should be changed > like that for lists : > > | {{List}} > | listmaker 'list' {{List}}" > > Both approaches you

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

> On Feb 11, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > > it should be achievable in 12 weeks That’s a great constraint! I’m starting to take notes to share

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

Hi! Maybe you also want to have a look at http://www.squeaksource.com/openqwaq/ There is a part PyBridge included. MAybe you can take some of the Smalltalk Python Cmodel classes from there. Sebastian Am 10.02.2015 um 23:24 schrieb kilon alios: Ok so after rereading the tutorial and testing

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Excerpts from Serge Stinckwich's message of 2015-02-11 15:13:22 +0100: > >> with Uko, we are considering submitting the Pharo project as a > >> mentoring organization for GSOC 2015: > >> We will need your help in order to find ideas of projects. > > Is there any effort make a joint application unde

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Sebastian Sastre < sebast...@flowingconcept.com> wrote: > +1 > > Can I brainstorm a wishlist? I could get wild on it :D > Yes. Go wild! But it should be achievable in 12 weeks, in some cases by students with limited Pharo/Smalltalk experience. Anyway, a wild

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Excerpts from Stephan Eggermont's message of 2015-02-11 15:05:14 +0100: > Sebastian wrote: > >Can I brainstorm a wishlist? I could get wild on it :D > > Sure, as long as it is projects that you would be willing to mentor, > and sized like they could fit. well, someone else could be willing to me

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Martin Bähr wrote: > Excerpts from Serge Stinckwich's message of 2015-02-11 10:02:21 +0100: >> with Uko, we are considering submitting the Pharo project as a >> mentoring organization for GSOC 2015: >> >> We will need your help in order to find ideas of projects. >

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Excerpts from Serge Stinckwich's message of 2015-02-11 10:02:21 +0100: > with Uko, we are considering submitting the Pharo project as a > mentoring organization for GSOC 2015: > > We will need your help in order to find ideas of projects. Is there any effort make a joint application under esug or

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Sebastian wrote: >Can I brainstorm a wishlist? I could get wild on it :D Sure, as long as it is projects that you would be willing to mentor, and sized like they could fit. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

This is a fantastic news. Go go go! Alexandre > Le 11 févr. 2015 à 06:02, Serge Stinckwich a > écrit : > > Dear all, > > with Uko, we are considering submitting the Pharo project as a > mentoring organization for GSOC 2015: > http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015 > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes file size

> On 11 Feb 2015, at 13:54, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > > 2015-02-11 5:35 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : >>> On 10 Feb 2015, at 09:13, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>> Esteban, >>> >>> You might be on something important there. >>> I always found it strange what effect loading Glorp

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes file size

2015-02-11 5:35 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : >> On 10 Feb 2015, at 09:13, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >> Esteban, >> >> You might be on something important there. >> I always found it strange what effect loading Glorp had on an image, blowing >> it up. >> I can't say I understand though,

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

+1 Can I brainstorm a wishlist? I could get wild on it :D > On Feb 11, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > Some project ideas > > 1 Better support for cross-platform co-development > > Glorp is originally maintained in VisualWorks. We now have a version > in Pharo that is forked

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Some project ideas 1 Better support for cross-platform co-development Glorp is originally maintained in VisualWorks. We now have a version in Pharo that is forked. It would be nice if we could make sure that changes can be synchronized. The rewriting engine is available on both platforms, and Gl

Re: [Pharo-users] recover lost changes

Norbert wrote: >Yes but resources are still sparse. I'm usually arguing the same way like you. >But at the moment I have the feeling we postpone the integration of too much >too long. >If the release is postponed until july I'd vote for integrating it now and >iron it out. >Otherwise it might

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

"What you see is that, with the {{}}, I create PyAtomNode instances for all productions, even if it isn't appropriate. Maybe this should be changed like that for lists : | {{List}} | listmaker 'list' {{List}}" Both approaches you described a) adding instance methods to PyAtomNode that

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes file size

> On 11 Feb 2015, at 09:35, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > I will try to do what you did and commit a version of that method with a > normal time stamp. I committed: === Name: Glorp-SvenVanCaekenberghe.96 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 11 February 2015, 9:59:31.16347 am UUID: 1e1961df-8d

[Pharo-users] GSOC 2015 application

Dear all, with Uko, we are considering submitting the Pharo project as a mentoring organization for GSOC 2015: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015 We will need your help in order to find ideas of projects. Stay tune for more information soon. Thank you. Cheers, -- Serge

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

Hi Kilon, 2015-02-11 8:24 GMT+01:00 kilon alios : > Ok so after rereading the tutorial and testing again and again , I think I > have finally managed to understand how SmaCC really works and I was > succesful into converting simple python litsts to pharo arrays and ordered > collections. > > The

Re: [Pharo-users] recover lost changes

> Am 11.02.2015 um 09:33 schrieb Stephan Eggermont : > > Norbert wrote: >>> Am 10.02.2015 um 20:59 schrieb stepharo <[hidden email]>: >>> >>> Yes this should be fixed. >>> >> You mean fix the current implementation or swap it for epicea? > > The current implementation. It is a significant b

Re: [Pharo-users] get them while they are young

Excerpts from kilon alios's message of 2015-02-11 09:19:27 +0100: > Well done Martin, personally I would not recommend Pharo to beginner > coders, but with Updated Pharo By Example near completion I may change my > mind ;) well, they are not beginner coders, at least i hope not. they should have

Re: [Pharo-users] recover lost changes

Norbert wrote: >> Am 10.02.2015 um 20:59 schrieb stepharo <[hidden email]>: >> >> Yes this should be fixed. >> > You mean fix the current implementation or swap it for epicea? The current implementation. It is a significant barrier to entry for new smalltalkers and gives a very bad impression

Re: [Pharo-users] get them while they are young

Well done Martin, personally I would not recommend Pharo to beginner coders, but with Updated Pharo By Example near completion I may change my mind ;) On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Martin Bähr < mba...@email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: > here is the reaction of a student preparing for a GSoC

Re: [Pharo-users] get them while they are young

Nice! > On 11 Feb 2015, at 08:58, Martin Bähr > wrote: > > here is the reaction of a student preparing for a GSoC project for which the > student needs to learn smalltalk: > > "I have installed Pharo v4.0 and started the book Pharo By Example as > suggested by you I just wanted to say