Re: [Pharo-users] Image growing size

2015-02-03 Thread Clément Bera
Hello, There could be many reasons why you would have such a big image. The most common reason is the monticello metadata, as Phil said. Another reason could be because some caches and objects that are flushed on snapshot, so if you looked at the image size at runtime and not the file size (for

Re: [Pharo-users] REST approach?

2015-02-03 Thread olivier auverlot
Zinc + Seaside REST is a very good solution that I use every days ;-) Olivier 2015-02-04 7:13 GMT+01:00 S Krish : > > Seaside REST / Teapot aka Sinatra from Ruby hope to push this > framework further > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Cameron Sanders via Pharo-users < > pharo-users@lists.

Re: [Pharo-users] REST approach?

2015-02-03 Thread S Krish
Seaside REST / Teapot aka Sinatra from Ruby hope to push this framework further On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Cameron Sanders via Pharo-users < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Cameron Sanders > To: Any question about pharo is welc

Re: [Pharo-users] Image growing size

2015-02-03 Thread Cameron Sanders via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- Do any of your (class/pool variable) singleton instances store data? add a #clearAll or #reset (mySingletonVar := nil) to the class side -- or whatever fits your app -- and do that before that #garbageCollect block. [In fact, put that in some XXXAdmin class] Good Luck, Cam O

[Pharo-users] REST approach?

2015-02-03 Thread Cameron Sanders via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- Our app runs on Pharo and Gemstone and must continue to do so. We use Zinc and Seaside. We require credentialing. What tools do people recommend using for setting up a REST server? Straight Zinc? Any tips? Thanks in advance! Cam --- End Message ---

Re: [Pharo-users] Monticello review web application

2015-02-03 Thread mikefilonov
> Where you tool takes its input? The tool requires a full URL to mcz package file for both base and target versions. This allows to compare versions on different locations. I attached the screenshot of the form : You may easi

[Pharo-users] wsdl webservice from pharo

2015-02-03 Thread Pablo R. Digonzelli
Hi all, i need to know if it is possible to consume a wsdl webservice from pharo. It is very easy using python and suds but i want to consume the webservice directly from pharo. TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 San Miguel de Tucu

Re: [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Indeed, we will certainly add tooltips. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > The keybindings are: >> - trigger Spotter with Shift+Enter. >> - toggle preview with Cmd+P (or Alt+P on Windows/Linux) >> > > It would be great to have all the keybindings (also movin

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GToolkit

2015-02-03 Thread Andrei Chis
GTDebugger can be loaded and works in Pharo 4. As Marcus said the UI still needs a few more iterations. Cheers, Andrei On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Craig wrote: > Ahh Ok – I looked for the debugger and when I didn’t find it, I assumed > that none of the toolkit was there. > > > > Sorry to bo

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GToolkit

2015-02-03 Thread Craig
Ahh Ok – I looked for the debugger and when I didn’t find it, I assumed that none of the toolkit was there. Sorry to bother. Craig From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Marcus Denker Sent: 03 February 2015 09:56 PM To: Any question about pharo is

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GToolkit

2015-02-03 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 03 Feb 2015, at 20:50, Craig wrote: > > Anybody got any ideas if and when GToolkit will be available on Pharo 4? > We are shipping with it since some time before christmas. -> Workspace defaults to the “Playground” -> inspector/explorer are using GTInspector (but one can use the old on

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GToolkit

2015-02-03 Thread Craig
Anybody got any ideas if and when GToolkit will be available on Pharo 4? Just Asking Craig From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Tudor Girba Sent: 05 October 2014 08:19 AM To: Any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Instal

Re: [Pharo-users] Monticello review web application

2015-02-03 Thread stepharo
What I would love is to bind it with epicea. The users can comment the files. What is cool with Epicea is that a change has semantics and a before and after state. Finally often you do a change (composed of different modifications) and that you do not want to see all the modifications one by on

Re: [Pharo-users] Monticello review web application

2015-02-03 Thread stepharo
Excellent We were discussing with alberto and martin about a tool to support code review :) Le 3/2/15 18:41, mikefilonov a écrit : Hello, I had some spare time and I built a prototype web application for comparing Monticello versions. I developed it using Seaside and Monticello version diff im

Re: [Pharo-users] NumericalMethods and SciSmalltalk

2015-02-03 Thread stepharo
Nice but it looks like a physic project :) Le 3/2/15 16:02, Ignacio Sniechowski a écrit : Given that I proposed the name, I couldn't resist to propose the logo :p what do you think? I've checked and the image has a free license. best Nacho *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA** * *Prosavic SRL* * *

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
kilon.alios wrote > Yes sure , I agree, but why that does not apply to Pharo ? Pharo as a principle has prioritized "do the right thing" over backward compatibility, and by consequence to lose users who won't accept that. Now amazingly, in practice, migration has for the most-part been a breeze, p

[Pharo-users] Monticello review web application

2015-02-03 Thread mikefilonov
Hello, I had some spare time and I built a prototype web application for comparing Monticello versions. I developed it using Seaside and Monticello version diff implementation in Pharo. It was super easy to reuse the classes which are responsible for downloading, comparing and generating diffs of

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
Yes sure , I agree, but why that does not apply to Pharo ? I would not want to use Pharo libraries that get changed and redesigned in each version and I have to rewrite my code. I could not even imagine the nightmare scenario of having a big code base and a language that keep changing. Python brok

Re: [Pharo-users] Cleaning code completition's namespace

2015-02-03 Thread Laura Risani
I'm using v3, and the #Spotlight (class name) that comes with it. I didn't know about Spotter of v4 before your comment. I've just tried it, it could be handy for some specific situations, after i manually tweak its non-sense whiteness which somewhy escapes global theme defaults (lovely dark theme

Re: [Pharo-users] Image growing size

2015-02-03 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Try to open monticello and select any repo, right click and clear the package cache. If you are using monticello that is. Also close all windows, open a workspace and do the 10 timesRepeat: [ Smalltalk garbageCollect]. HTH Phil Le 3 févr. 2015 17:49, "Laura Risani" a écrit : > Hi all, > > Th

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
kilon.alios wrote > If you mean something more than that, then I am open to other opinions as > always :) The only meaning I connected to C++ and Ruby were that they were dogmatically and widely enough approved for use to be rigid by necessity. Based on some of your comments, I assume I probably c

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
well this is why I say its a weak spot. I dont disagree with everything you say. I do agree that a language like C++ goes to a very diffirent direction to Pharo and will attract diffirent kind of people, or even the same people with different set of goals. If you mean something more than that, the

Re: [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
"And also as someone pointed out during Pharo Days... to have tooltips above the buttons showing the shortcut." +1 GT tools have greatly enhanced the Pharo experience. I do think that GTInspector and GTPlayground could use a GUI cleanup in their design but GTSpotter is gorgeously well done. The n

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
kilon.alios wrote > The weak spot in your argument is that you use the worst example you can > choose to prove it. Ha ha ha, did you really just boil my whole post down to two examples of languages which are "languages you're supposed to use" (which by the way if you read carefully I never suggest

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
The weak spot in your argument is that you use the worst example you can choose to prove it. Ruby. Ruby has two big issues for your line of arguments. First its popularity was build by a single man. A nomad. His name is David Heinemeier Hansson

[Pharo-users] Image growing size

2015-02-03 Thread Laura Risani
Hi all, The official image i've downloaded weighted about 40 MB. Now its size is about 200 MB. What is the explanation? Is this normal or have i done something wrong? I haven't been using globals, just downloaded and defined some packages. The only over persistent thing i've done is to keep an in

Re: [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-03 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > The keybindings are: > - trigger Spotter with Shift+Enter. > - toggle preview with Cmd+P (or Alt+P on Windows/Linux) > It would be great to have all the keybindings (also moving inside the Spotter) written somewhere in one place (for all platforms) so one doesn't need to go scavenge blogs and

Re: [Pharo-users] Cleaning code completition's namespace

2015-02-03 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hi! Spotlight or Spotter? Which version of Pharo are you using? I ask because the old Spotlight should be using the same code completion mechanism => it should appear/disappear from both at the same time... As for spotter, I don't have an answer now :) Saludos, Guille El Tue Feb 03 2015 at 5:2

Re: [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, We thought that the visual space occupied when in preview mode might be too much. But, once you open the preview, it stays opened for subsequent usages. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > nacho wrote > > Really cool. > > Yes, awesome!! Why not preview

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > kilon.alios wrote > > I do agree, that nomads do not build cathedrals but there is the flip > side > > of the coin, why one would want to be a nomad and the great benefits > > coming > > with being a nomad > > > > Guido the creator of pyth

Re: [Pharo-users] Cleaning code completition's namespace

2015-02-03 Thread Laura Risani
Thank you all for your answers. Hi Guille , Nice solution! It worked perfectly for Code Completition! Yet the obsolete symbols (class names and selectors) keep showing in Spotlight, but i guess this is too implementation specific. I will step through its execution to try to find out how it works

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
kilon.alios wrote > I do agree, that nomads do not build cathedrals but there is the flip side > of the coin, why one would want to be a nomad and the great benefits > coming > with being a nomad > > Guido the creator of python explains it from the side of the Python > Standard library but I think

Re: [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-03 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
nacho wrote > Really cool. Yes, awesome!! Why not preview by default (like Mac's Spotlight)? At Smalltalk's high-granularity, I would guess there's not much of a lag, no? - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/spotter-preview-tp4803299p4803400.html Sent from

Re: [Pharo-users] NumericalMethods and SciSmalltalk

2015-02-03 Thread Ignacio Sniechowski
Given that I proposed the name, I couldn't resist to propose the logo :p what do you think? I've checked and the image has a free license. best Nacho *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* *Prosavic SRL* *Tel: (011) 4542-6714* On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 2:48 PM, stepharo wrote: > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Trygve Reenskaug wrote: > It's a fact of life that leverage implies rigidity. A rubber crowbar is > flexible, but useless. > Our challenge is, as I see it, to determine the minimum we need to keep > rigid in order to get maximum leverage for doing the rest. > --Tr

Re: [Pharo-users] R: Re: Standalone GUI

2015-02-03 Thread Damien Cassou
falzonidav...@libero.it writes: So how can I prevent a user to execute a doIt? Blocking the opening of windows? look at how Pharo Launcher is implemented: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoLauncher. The Launcher window takes the whole screen. This is a good start. Still, this is

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
It's a fact of life that leverage implies rigidity. A rubber crowbar is flexible, but useless. Our challenge is, as I see it, to determine the minimum we need to keep rigid in order to get maximum leverage for doing the rest. --Trygve On 03.02.2015 14:34, Marcus Denker wrote: On 03 Feb 2015,

Re: [Pharo-users] High precision arithmetic

2015-02-03 Thread Pierre CHANSON
Hi Werner, you are right, I will try it 2015-02-03 10:22 GMT-03:00 Ben Coman : > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:58 AM, p...@highoctane.be > wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Pierre CHANSON >> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> I was wondering if there was a package to manipulate floats lik

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 03 Feb 2015, at 14:29, Sebastian Sastre > wrote: > > >> On Feb 3, 2015, at 11:18 AM, kilon alios > > wrote: >> >> But the more user it will get the more inflexible will become to change. >> That's a big price to pay for abandoning the nomad life. > > Note

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
> On Feb 3, 2015, at 11:18 AM, kilon alios wrote: > > But the more user it will get the more inflexible will become to change. > That's a big price to pay for abandoning the nomad life. Note that, that statement, is not exactly true. The more users it gets, the more social pressure the commu

Re: [Pharo-users] High precision arithmetic

2015-02-03 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:58 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Pierre CHANSON > wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> I was wondering if there was a package to manipulate floats like the MPFR >> library in C... >> > > One issue with MPFR is the licensing, which is GNU. > No,

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
But thats not the point I am trying to make and what Guido is talking about in the video. The summary of those two minutes is that "you dont want to contribute your code to us because as soon as you do you are trapped by our huge scary monster of backward compatibility and we wont tolerate any cha

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 03 Feb 2015, at 13:59, kilon alios wrote: > > I do agree, that nomads do not build cathedrals but there is the flip side of > the coin, why one would want to be a nomad and the great benefits coming with > being a nomad > > Guido the creator of python explains it from the side of the Py

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
I do agree, that nomads do not build cathedrals but there is the flip side of the coin, why one would want to be a nomad and the great benefits coming with being a nomad Guido the creator of python explains it from the side of the Python Standard library but I think it applies fine for Pharo too

Re: [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-03 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 02 Feb 2015, at 22:02, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi, > > The Glamorous Team is happy to present a new feature in Spotter: preview (you > toggle it with Cmd+p). We think this boosts the usefulness of the Spotter > interface significantly. > > > > For more details, please take a look at: >

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 02 Feb 2015, at 21:19, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Hi, > > Here are the slides from my talk from yesterday: > > http://www.slideshare.net/MarcusDenker/2015-fosdempharo > The part in between Pharo3 and Pharo4 tries a bit to explain the philosophy… I did a longer talk at ESUG last year abou

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 02 Feb 2015, at 21:26, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Marcus Denker > wrote: > Hi, > > Here are the slides from my talk from yesterday: > > http://www.slideshare.net/MarcusDenker/2015-fosdempharo >