Re: List unsubscriptions

2017-06-23 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2017-06-23 5:47 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: Based on some off-list discussion with Darren, I've gone ahead and removed everyone else we saw who had sent an 'unsubscribe' email to the list (an additional 7 individuals). If you are seeing this email and don't wish to be on this list, please feel f

List unsubscriptions

2017-06-23 Thread Stephen Frost
All, Based on some off-list discussion with Darren, I've gone ahead and removed everyone else we saw who had sent an 'unsubscribe' email to the list (an additional 7 individuals). If you are seeing this email and don't wish to be on this list, please feel free to contact me or to go through the p

Re: List migration problem, how to unsubscribe, documentation wrong

2017-06-23 Thread Stephen Frost
Darren, everyone, * Darren Duncan (dar...@darrenduncan.net) wrote: > A week ago, the pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org email list was > migrated to different software, to PGLister from MajorDomo. Right. > When Stephen Frost (sfr...@snowman.net) migrated this list, he > announced that if there are a

Re: unsubscribe

2017-06-23 Thread marcelo
As you can see, most of us are trying to unsuscribe... On 23/06/17 18:09, Rick Dicaire wrote: unsubscribe

List migration problem, how to unsubscribe, documentation wrong

2017-06-23 Thread Darren Duncan
Everyone, but Stephen Frost in particular, A week ago, the pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org email list was migrated to different software, to PGLister from MajorDomo. When Stephen Frost (sfr...@snowman.net) migrated this list, he announced that if there are any problems we are to talk to him sp

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2017-06-23 Thread Rick Dicaire
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RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Dave Barter
Same On 23 Jun 2017 8:33 pm, "Regina Obe" wrote: Alexey, pgAdmin (pgAdmin 4 graphical user tool that comes packaged with a lot of PostgreSQL distributions). I think the issue is people are getting emails from the pgAdmin mailing list that never used to before. I think I had my setting set

Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread marcelo
I agree with Brendan: no matter how rude a mail to the list could be, yo cannot answer the same mood. But my main concern is the unsuscribe mechanism: it does not work; I tried it some days ago, and the mails continue arriving. Marcelo On 23/06/17 16:40, Brendan Neff wrote: I was letting thi

RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Michael Vitale
No way Im unsubscribing, im in with PG and PGADMIN for the long haul, regardless of setbacks. Dude, get over yourself. They might bar you from the IRC channels too. From: Alex Ignatov [mailto:a.igna...@postgrespro.ru] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:22 PM To: Russell Mercer ; Melvin Davidson Cc

Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Brendan Neff
I was letting this stuff go as best as I could, but this is some serious nonsense going on right here. And the response by Paragon and devs or whatever they are is horrible. If a fool is rude to you, you don't, as the face of a company, respond in a rude way. You shouldn't have access to public

Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Rick Dicaire
I unsubscribed using the website at lists.postgresql.org. Why am I still receiving mail from this list? On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Darren Duncan wrote: > And the CAUSE of those messages is other subscribers who spam the list > rather than using the proper channels. > > > On 2017-06-23 12:50

Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Darren Duncan
And the CAUSE of those messages is other subscribers who spam the list rather than using the proper channels. On 2017-06-23 12:50 PM, Eric P. Melbardis wrote: hate to say it, but you have that backwards, at least speaking for myself, these emails started recently, with no action, intent or de

RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Eric P. Melbardis
hate to say it, but you have that backwards, at least speaking for myself, these emails started recently, with no action, intent or desire on my part ... -Original Message- From: Darren Duncan [mailto:dar...@darrenduncan.net] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:43 PM To: 'Pgadmin Support' S

Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2017-06-23 12:33 PM, Regina Obe wrote: pgAdmin (pgAdmin 4 graphical user tool that comes packaged with a lot of PostgreSQL distributions). I think the issue is people are getting emails from the pgAdmin mailing list that never used to before. I think I had my setting set to digest, and now p

RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Regina Obe
Alexey, pgAdmin (pgAdmin 4 graphical user tool that comes packaged with a lot of PostgreSQL distributions). I think the issue is people are getting emails from the pgAdmin mailing list that never used to before. I think I had my setting set to digest, and now past week or so I get all of

Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Alex Ignatov
What  PgAdmin is and why everybody is unsubscribing? Alexey Ignatov On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 10:19 PM +0300, "Russell Mercer" wrote: Melvin, PgAdmi

Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Russell Mercer
Melvin, PgAdmin 4 has more in depth support for foreign data tables and materialized views than does PgAdmin III. There are separate sections for them which makes sense as they are a different construct than a standard view or table. These are the primary items I was referring to. Russell On

Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread marcelo
I don't care regarding the blames. It's author's concern. But I also unsuscribed from the list, received the mail, and confirmed. Neverthless, the mails continue arriving. On 23/06/17 16:08, Eric P. Melbardis wrote: this is for the postgress folks, I started getting these emails a few days, ma

RE: RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Eric P. Melbardis
this is for the postgress folks, I started getting these emails a few days, maybe a week ago, I unsubscribed (I think, I went through the motions for sure) but I still keep getting these emails … warm flames for sure but, can we please put the fire out (ie stop the unwanted email traffic???) e

Re: RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Roland Kaschek
Guys, There are folks here, who get your posts and since quite some time want to get out of this list. Do you think they enjoy your conversation? I don't, by the way. Thank you & best regards. Am 23.06.2017 20:58 schrieb "Melvin Davidson" : > *Russell,* > *> I still use PG Admin 4 because it

Re: RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Melvin Davidson
Russell,>I still use PG Admin 4 because it supports features in the new versions of Postgres that > version 3 simply doesn't. Just curious. What features does PgAdmin 4 have that PgAdmin III does not? I did a survey involving a future feature that is planned, but I have not yet seen that as of 4

RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Paragon Corporation
Russell, I fail to see a “valid” criticism in the original email. If there anything constructive at all, I would not have deemed him/her a fool. Respectfully, Leo From: Russell Mercer [mailto:rmer...@getspatial.com] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 2:04 PM To: Paragon Corporation Cc: 'Pg

Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Russell Mercer
It is my hope that this response does not indicate what I think it might, which is that the valid criticisms he has made in his emails are being lost in the immaturity with which he has presented them. The points are valid that PG Admin 4 is extremely slow on Windows machines. It is also true th

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2017-06-23 Thread Gerson
unsubscribe Kind regards / Cordialement, Gerson Junior.

Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Melvin Davidson
grekloedlc, I also am disappointed with the current version of PgAdmin 4, but I prefer to simply report any bugs and inefficiencies I find to the PgAdmin team ina positive way. Your emails are very childish and show you are immature andin need of serious guidance. However, since you have decided

RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Paragon Corporation
“Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain. And most fools do.” --- Benjamin Franklin From: grekloe...@tutanota.com [mailto:grekloe...@tutanota.com] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:16 AM To: Pgadmin Support Subject: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable... T

RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Irina Mileva
I hope my email finds you all well. I believe this is a hard moment for pgAdmin but I prefer to support them, no matter I disagree with this decision too. For example Google have a city of the best frond enders, dirrefent level architects... Other data base tools saw the market possibility and s

RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread Anderson, Derek
Yes, I also feel that PGAdmin IV less than stellar - but we also need to realize technology doesn’t move forward without taking risks. Even the most successful and most expensive software out there has had its issues. Infantilisms like this are not constructive and do not solve problems. From

RE: unsuscribe

2017-06-23 Thread Rick Levine
The problem is that there has never been a way to unsubscribe from this mailing list. I think some folks over-optimistically thought that with the advent of a new platform, unsubscribing would now work, hence the flurry of unsubscribe requests, and the following realization that nothing has cha

Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

2017-06-23 Thread grekloedlc
This isn't even funny. It's just sad and bizarre. Everything about this project screams of incompetence, from the impossibly slow and buggy pgAdmin 4 -- literally UNUSABLE after over a million dollars spent developing it! -- to this mailing list itself. I'm going to have to assume that nobody g

Re: unsubscribe

2017-06-23 Thread Stephen Cook
On 2017-06-23 06:10, David De Maeyer wrote: > Why on earth am I getting all the unsubscribe mails when I should be > unsubscribed? > > Please fix. > > *From:*Kiran Kumar [mailto:kiranbathul...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 02:53 > *To:* pgadmin-support@lists.postgresql.org > *Subject

RE: unsubscribe

2017-06-23 Thread David De Maeyer
Why on earth am I getting all the unsubscribe mails when I should be unsubscribed? Please fix. De bedste hilsner / Best regards David De Maeyer Developer / System Architect [http://www.adnuvo.com/signatur/logo.png] From: Kiran Kumar [mailto:kiranbathul...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June