Guys, There are folks here, who get your posts and since quite some time want to get out of this list.
Do you think they enjoy your conversation? I don't, by the way. Thank you & best regards. Am 23.06.2017 20:58 schrieb "Melvin Davidson" <melvin6...@yahoo.com>: > *Russell,* > *> I still use PG Admin 4 because it supports features in the new versions > of Postgres that * > *> version 3 simply doesn't.* > > > *Just curious. What features does PgAdmin 4 have that PgAdmin III does > not?* > *I did a survey involving a future feature that is planned, but I have not > yet * > > *seen that as of 4 v1.5 .* > > Melvin Davidson 🎸 > I reserve the right to fantasize. Whether or not you > wish to share my fantasy is entirely up to you. > www.youtube.com/unusedhero/videos > Folk Alley - All Folk - 24 Hours a day > www.folkalley.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > On Friday, June 23, 2017, 2:47:51 PM EDT, Paragon Corporation <l...@pcorp.us> > wrote: > > > Russell, > > > > I fail to see a “valid” criticism in the original email. If there anything > constructive at all, I would not have deemed him/her a fool. > > > > Respectfully, > > Leo > > > > *From:* Russell Mercer [mailto:rmer...@getspatial.com] > *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 2:04 PM > *To:* Paragon Corporation <l...@pcorp.us> > *Cc:* 'Pgadmin Support' <pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org> > *Subject:* Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way > imaginable... > > > > It is my hope that this response does not indicate what I think it might, > which is that the valid criticisms he has made in his emails are being lost > in the immaturity with which he has presented them. > > The points are valid that PG Admin 4 is extremely slow on Windows > machines. It is also true that there is a feature gap between this new > version of the software, and PG Admin 3. It is extremely surprising that > this gap exists given the stated $1,000,000+ expenditure for development of > the new version. Where PG Admin 3 was able to spread across multiple > windows on multiple monitors, PG Admin 4 is constrained to essentially a > browser window. > > With the issues it has, I still use PG Admin 4 because it supports > features in the new versions of Postgres that version 3 simply doesn't. I > know the developers have been active on the mailing list and are attempting > to suss out some of the thornier performance issues on Windows. For these > reasons, I have made my concerns known a couple of times, but will not > continue to harp on them. > > I realize that in the end, I get what I pay for. If you choose to cast > people as fools who have criticisms of your software, that is your choice. > I am a user of the database, and the admin software. I am not a software > developer, so my avenues for action to solve the problem are limited. I am > left with the option to air my concerns, as are many other people. > Hopefully we are not written off simply because this is all we do, however > poorly we may choose to present them. > > The story of the court jesters of old comes to mind. They were written > off as fools by the majority of people, however they used that as cover to > deliver what was in many cases, extremely pointed social commentary. So, > while the original poster may be considered a fool, it does not make him > wrong. > > Thank you for the time and effort put forth on both PostgreSQL and > PGAdmin. They are great tools! > > Russell > > > > > > On 2017-06-23 07:07, Paragon Corporation wrote: > > "Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain. And most fools do." > > > > --- Benjamin Franklin > > > > *From:* grekloe...@tutanota.com [mailto:grekloe...@tutanota.com > <grekloe...@tutanota.com>] > *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 9:16 AM > *To:* Pgadmin Support <pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org> > *Subject:* Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way > imaginable... > > > > This isn't even funny. It's just sad and bizarre. Everything about this > project screams of incompetence, from the impossibly slow and buggy pgAdmin > 4 -- literally UNUSABLE after over a million dollars spent developing it! > -- to this mailing list itself. > > I'm going to have to assume that nobody gives a shit about anything > related to pgAdmin. I'm sure as hell never going to "upgrade" from pgAdmin > III, which itself is incredibly slow and buggy as well, but lightyears > ahead of v4. > > Then again, nobody will read this, just like my previous posts. You are > immune to the truth. I'm going to force myself to use one of the weird > "alternatives" and forget about pgAdmin forever. Bye. > > (If I manage to unsubscribe to this inferno.) > >
