Melvin, 

PgAdmin 4 has more in depth support for foreign data tables and
materialized views than does PgAdmin III.  There are separate sections
for them which makes sense as they are a different construct than a
standard view or table.  These are the primary items I was referring to.


Russell

On 2017-06-23 11:54, Melvin Davidson wrote:

> RUSSELL, 
> 
>> I STILL USE PG ADMIN 4 BECAUSE IT SUPPORTS FEATURES IN THE NEW VERSIONS OF 
>> POSTGRES THAT 
>> VERSION 3 SIMPLY DOESN'T. 
> 
> Just curious. What features does PgAdmin 4 have that PgAdmin III does not?
> 
> I DID A SURVEY INVOLVING A FUTURE FEATURE THAT IS PLANNED, BUT I HAVE NOT YET 
> seen that as of 4 v1.5 .
> 
> Melvin Davidson 🎸
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> On Friday, June 23, 2017, 2:47:51 PM EDT, Paragon Corporation <l...@pcorp.us> 
> wrote: 
> 
> Russell, 
> 
> I fail to see a "valid" criticism in the original email. If there anything 
> constructive at all, I would not have deemed him/her a fool. 
> 
> Respectfully, 
> 
> Leo 
> 
> FROM: Russell Mercer [mailto:rmer...@getspatial.com] 
> SENT: Friday, June 23, 2017 2:04 PM
> TO: Paragon Corporation <l...@pcorp.us>
> CC: 'Pgadmin Support' <pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org>
> SUBJECT: Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way 
> imaginable... 
> 
> It is my hope that this response does not indicate what I think it might, 
> which is that the valid criticisms he has made in his emails are being lost 
> in the immaturity with which he has presented them. 
> 
> The points are valid that PG Admin 4 is extremely slow on Windows machines.  
> It is also true that there is a feature gap between this new version of the 
> software, and PG Admin 3.  It is extremely surprising that this gap exists 
> given the stated $1,000,000+ expenditure for development of the new version.  
> Where PG Admin 3 was able to spread across multiple windows on multiple 
> monitors, PG Admin 4 is constrained to essentially a browser window. 
> 
> With the issues it has, I still use PG Admin 4 because it supports features 
> in the new versions of Postgres that version 3 simply doesn't.  I know the 
> developers have been active on the mailing list and are attempting to suss 
> out some of the thornier performance issues on Windows.  For these reasons, I 
> have made my concerns known a couple of times, but will not continue to harp 
> on them. 
> 
> I realize that in the end, I get what I pay for.  If you choose to cast 
> people as fools who have criticisms of your software, that is your choice.  I 
> am a user of the database, and the admin software.  I am not a software 
> developer, so my avenues for action to solve the problem are limited.  I am 
> left with the option to air my concerns, as are many other people.  Hopefully 
> we are not written off simply because this is all we do, however poorly we 
> may choose to present them. 
> 
> The story of the court jesters of old comes to mind.  They were written off 
> as fools by the majority of people, however they used that as cover to 
> deliver what was in many cases, extremely pointed social commentary.  So, 
> while the original poster may be considered a fool, it does not make him 
> wrong. 
> 
> Thank you for the time and effort put forth on both PostgreSQL and PGAdmin.  
> They are great tools! 
> 
> Russell
> 
> On 2017-06-23 07:07, Paragon Corporation wrote:
> 
>> "Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain. And most fools do." 
>> 
>> --- Benjamin Franklin 
>> 
>> FROM: grekloe...@tutanota.com [mailto:grekloe...@tutanota.com] 
>> SENT: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:16 AM
>> TO: Pgadmin Support <pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org>
>> SUBJECT: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable... 
>> 
>> This isn't even funny. It's just sad and bizarre. Everything about this 
>> project screams of incompetence, from the impossibly slow and buggy pgAdmin 
>> 4 -- literally UNUSABLE after over a million dollars spent developing it! -- 
>> to this mailing list itself.
>> 
>> I'm going to have to assume that nobody gives a shit about anything related 
>> to pgAdmin. I'm sure as hell never going to "upgrade" from pgAdmin III, 
>> which itself is incredibly slow and buggy as well, but lightyears ahead of 
>> v4.
>> 
>> Then again, nobody will read this, just like my previous posts. You are 
>> immune to the truth. I'm going to force myself to use one of the weird 
>> "alternatives" and forget about pgAdmin forever. Bye.
>> 
>> (If I manage to unsubscribe to this inferno.)

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