Re: Persistingly OT Re: Fanatics

2005-07-20 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "keithw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When waching foreign (to me) films, I far prefer to have English subtitles, instead of dubbing. I want to hear it in the language it was filmed in. Besides, depending on the language, I can usually tell when the person transla

Re: Persistingly OT Re: Fanatics

2005-07-20 Thread keithw
Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: "keithw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Boy! I'd sure like to watch it, but I sure need a taller antenna! Awww, that's okay. I don't understand Norwegian anyhow, by golly... Dubbing is for analphabets. :-) Besides, it would take away half the fun un

Re: Persistingly OT Re: Fanatics

2005-07-20 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "keithw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Boy! I'd sure like to watch it, but I sure need a taller antenna! Awww, that's okay. I don't understand Norwegian anyhow, by golly... Dubbing is for analphabets. :-) Besides, it would take away half the fun unless the translat

Re: Persistingly OT Re: Fanatics

2005-07-20 Thread keithw
Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: "keithw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "To The Manor Born," with Peter Bowles. ca 1979. There's a re-run this summer on a Norwegian channel. Tonight, the good lady's car has broken down, and she resorts to using a horse for her shopping...:-) Jos

Re: Persistingly OT Re: Fanatics

2005-07-20 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "keithw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "To The Manor Born," with Peter Bowles. ca 1979. There's a re-run this summer on a Norwegian channel. Tonight, the good lady's car has broken down, and she resorts to using a horse for her shopping...:-) Jostein

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-20 Thread Bob Blakely
It was the spell checker that did this to me. If you run the post through your spell checker, you will probably find not find any error either. Consider the post changed to: You're right, of course. I am angry though. And I demand retribution - what is justly deserved, recompense. And I demand

Re: Persistingly OT Re: Fanatics

2005-07-20 Thread keithw
Jostein wrote: LOL. > Woe the ones to Manor Born. Btw, anyone remember the TV series with Penelope Keith? Jostein "To The Manor Born," with Peter Bowles. ca 1979. Keith Whaley

Persistingly OT Re: Fanatics

2005-07-20 Thread Jostein
LOL. Woe the ones to Manor Born. Btw, anyone remember the TV series with Penelope Keith? Jostein Quoting Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > as one of a civilized gentiles (ie, goyim), i protest against > abusing language in this manor. and highly recommend a spell-checker > to a pissed native spea

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-20 Thread danilo
On 7/8/05, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are soccer fans, we have football, hockey, basketball and baseball > fans. Fan, as I'm sure you're aware, is simply short for fanatic. Wow, there's something new to learn every day!! Yes I didn't realize it before, thank you!! beside this

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-19 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Mishka wrote: as one of a civilized gentiles (ie, goyim), i protest against abusing language in this manor. and highly recommend a spell-checker to a pissed native speakers. The remedy for the problem you have pointed out is a dictionary, not a spell-checker. :-)

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-19 Thread Mishka
as one of a civilized gentiles (ie, goyim), i protest against abusing language in this manor. and highly recommend a spell-checker to a pissed native speakers. mishka On 7/19/05, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're right, of course. I am angry though. And I demand retribution - wh

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-19 Thread Bob Blakely
You're right, of course. I am angry though. And I demand retribution - what is justly deserved, recompense. And I demand it from both those who do, those who teach, those who finance and also those who give aid, comfort or safe haven to these barbarians. Dealing with such people in the manor ne

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Mishka
if we find out? like in "we have no idea who they are"? mishka > Idealistically, and ultimately, if we find out who are those people who > benefit most from the terrorist attacks, and bring them to *real* > justice then without firewood the terror fire will eventually expire.

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Bob Blakely
There are soccer fans, we have football, hockey, basketball and baseball fans. Fan, as I'm sure you're aware, is simply short for fanatic. My oldest son is fanatic about a game called "Star Wars Galaxies". I'm a fanatic when it comes to hunting and firearms safety and also about caring for veter

RE: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Bob W
> The world's three largest religions (Islam, Bhuddism, > and Christianity) are, unsurprisingly, the only three with > histories of practicing 'conversion by the sword'. 1. Buddhism is not one of the 3 largest religions 2. There are far more than 3 religions with a history of conversion by the s

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Graywolf" Subject: Re: Fanatics You, don't have a clue do you, Bill? gee Tom I'm thinking the same thing about you right now... b.

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Scott Loveless
x27;s direction. The actions of terrorists are fanatacism, not survivalism. They can survive without it. On 7/8/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Graywolf" > Subject: Re: Fanatics > > > > > Fanaticism can

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Graywolf
-- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Graywolf" Subject: Re: Fanatics Fanaticism can be short term (mobs), or long term. It probably was a survival mechanism in hunter/gatherer societies. You might find if you talk to a few Midd

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Scott Loveless
LOL! On 7/8/05, Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Graywolf wrote: > > > (Fanaticism) unfortunately seems to be an inate psychological mechanism in > > the > > human species. It does seem to apply to groups more than individuals. I > > wonder if there has been any research done on the minimu

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Graywolf
No I have not become a digital-fanatic. I have always said digital was just the thing for snapshots, and that is my intended use. I do not believe in digital uber al. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Tom Reese wrote

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Fanaticism can be short term (mobs), or long term. It probably was a survival mechanism in hunter/gatherer societies. You might find if you talk to a few Middle Eastern "fanatics", they still see it as a survival mechanism. I think that it is all much simpler, much much simpler. Though

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Graywolf" Subject: Re: Fanatics Fanaticism can be short term (mobs), or long term. It probably was a survival mechanism in hunter/gatherer societies. You might find if you talk to a few Middle Eastern "fanatics", they still

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Tom Reese
Graywolf wrote: (Fanaticism) unfortunately seems to be an inate psychological mechanism in the human species. It does seem to apply to groups more than individuals. I wonder if there has been any research done on the minimum size of group needed to trigger it? This list was big enough to tri

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Graywolf
My only problem with your post is your misunderstanding of the word "fanatic". Used referring to enthusiasts like us on this list it is pure hyperbole. Fanaticism can be short term (mobs), or long term. It probably was a survival mechanism in hunter/gatherer societies. In industrial societies i

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-08 Thread Jostein
Bob, What you write is reasonable and agreeable, but the reasoning can lead to three types of action. Yes, three. I too am weary of Chamberlainian naivité. It leads to a type of (in)action which should be sufficiently disproved, by history, to be efficient. The other two implies some action to

Re: Fanatics

2005-07-07 Thread Bob Blakely
No one really knows for sure, but current thought is that sociopaths are born that way. Fanatics don't bother me. We're a list of fanatics after all. Sociopaths with an innate lust for power, brilliant and charismatic do. This very type of fanatics has been going on for centuries. Spain has it's