Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-05 Thread Peter Alling
There's a really funny response to this somewhere, I just don't want to work hard enough to come up with it. At 02:47 PM 2/5/04, you wrote: > Try an experiment: glue a coin to a tennis ball and then drop it > into a bucket of water. The side with the coin is heavier and ends up > underneath. And th

Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-05 Thread graywolf
Won't fit in a vending machine, will it? Fred wrote: Try an experiment: glue a coin to a tennis ball and then drop it into a bucket of water. The side with the coin is heavier and ends up underneath. And then what am I going to do with a tennis ball with a coin glued onto it? Fred -- grayw

RE: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-05 Thread Len Paris
Play tennis, of course. (VBG) It could be fun. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 > And then what am I going to do with a tennis ball with a coin glued > onto it? > > Fred > >

Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-05 Thread Fred
> Try an experiment: glue a coin to a tennis ball and then drop it > into a bucket of water. The side with the coin is heavier and ends up > underneath. And then what am I going to do with a tennis ball with a coin glued onto it? Fred

RE: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-05 Thread Frits Wüthrich
s conclusion is that North America, Asia and Europe are just > so much ballast. > > Paul Ewins > Melbourne, Australia > > > > -Original Message- > From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-05 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question > > No, no, no. It's common sense. Most of the landmass is north of > the > equator, which makes it heavier so that it naturally sinks to the > bottom. Try an experiment: glue a coin to a te

RE: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-05 Thread Paul Ewins
The obvious conclusion is that North America, Asia and Europe are just so much ballast. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Di

OT: personal growth was - * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Mike, I am just trying to make sure I don't end up with a bony butt! That is all I am saying on that one, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: mike.wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:43 AM -- -- Hi, -- -- Cesar wrote: -- -- > C

Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread mapson
At 07:46 AM 4/02/2004 -0500, you wrote: > We are the only island continent ...except for Antarctica, perhaps? Covered in snow - doesn't count! ;-) Fred (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread Fred
> No, no, no, Tom, this group has been advised before that Oz is not > upside down at all. We are the only continent the right way up, > and we can show you a map to prove it! Ah, but, the only way to show a map or a globe with Australia "the right way up" (i.e., above the equator) is to show the

Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread Fred
> We are the only island continent ...except for Antarctica, perhaps? Fred

RE: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread Trevor Bailey
Grafton OZ -Original Message- From: mapson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2004 6:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question At 12:30 PM 4/02/2004 +1000, you wrote: >No, no, no, Tom, this group has been advised bef

Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread mapson
At 12:30 PM 4/02/2004 +1000, you wrote: No, no, no, Tom, this group has been advised before that Oz is not upside down at all. We are the only continent the right way up, and we can show you a map to prove it! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia And it'a a prawn, not a shrimp we can ride in the front

Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread John Coyle
IL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:31 AM Subject: Re: * ist Digital Question > So you Aussies are not only upside down, you are front to rear as well? How > strange. >

Re: buttocks,breasts, hobos, etc --e.g. fannies, (was * ist Digital Question)

2004-02-03 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
e starts to lecture me about safety issues and talking about this type of stuff on the internet... *eek* tan. - Original Message - From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:42 AM Subject: Re: * ist Digital Questio

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread Christian Skofteland
- Original Message - From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So far it seems to be buttocks/breasts*, hobos, and prostitutes --e.g. fannies, > bums, & solicitors. And, they say we americans are strange. > > *Depending upon whether it is winter or summer where you are. Solicitors, where

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread graywolf
So far it seems to be buttocks/breasts*, hobos, and prostitutes --e.g. fannies, bums, & solicitors. And, they say we americans are strange. *Depending upon whether it is winter or summer where you are. -- Steve Desjardins wrote: So, what do you think we should retitle this thread as? Steven

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread graywolf
So you Aussies are not only upside down, you are front to rear as well? How strange. Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: This is too funny to me - in Australia, what we refer to as a "fanny" is in fact only found only on a lady and is the FRONT rather than the BACK of them, iykwim? We here, call what

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread bucky
There's a chain of fabric stores here in Canada called "Fanny's Fabrics". Laugh it up. Quoting mapson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > At 11:29 PM 3/02/2004 +1000, you wrote: > >This is too funny to me - in Australia, what we refer to as a "fanny" is in > >fact only found only on a lady and is the FRONT

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - > Damn, there as wise a** in every group. (I thought that was my job). Peter, We're just drooling for the job. Jostein

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread mapson
At 11:29 PM 3/02/2004 +1000, you wrote: This is too funny to me - in Australia, what we refer to as a "fanny" is in fact only found only on a lady and is the FRONT rather than the BACK of them, iykwim? We here, call what you are referring to, a BUM! lol AND rather than "fanny pack", it is a "bum b

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
So, what do you think we should retitle this thread as? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/03/04 01:17PM >>> Yes, During the first week of what would become a

RE: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Hay Cesar, I have a Marmot Walkabout, top quality gear with a nice range >of products. ROTFL. So you like to eat in the barn with horses or what? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps

RE: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread Peter Alling
And I should really learn to type... At 01:24 PM 2/3/04, you wrote: Damn, there as wise a** in every group. (I thought that was my job). At 03:42 AM 2/3/04, you wrote: Hi, Cesar wrote: > Can I find a larger fanny pack? How big is your fanny likely to grow? m I drink to make other people inte

RE: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread Peter Alling
Damn, there as wise a** in every group. (I thought that was my job). At 03:42 AM 2/3/04, you wrote: Hi, Cesar wrote: > Can I find a larger fanny pack? How big is your fanny likely to grow? m I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread Bill Owens
Remember when the word gay meant happy? Bill > Time can be as great a divide as space, too. The other day I re-read > an Agatha Christie story which was set at a country house party (gosh!). > One of the guests, being bored, apparently spent the afternoon lazily > making love to his hostess in t

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread Otis Wright
Yes, During the first week of what would become an 11-year sojourn in 'Oz, I had this explained quite graphically to me by young lady during a mixed conference meeting of about 20 persons.Took about a week for normal colour to return to my face. Never forgot that one. Was reminded by some

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread John Francis
> > This is too funny to me - in Australia, what we refer to as a "fanny" is in > fact only found only on a lady and is the FRONT rather than the BACK of > them, iykwim? That's the UK usage, too. Gave me quite a shock the first time I read some US piece of fiction that described somebody who, on

RE: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-03 Thread mike.wilson
Hi, Cesar wrote: > Can I find a larger fanny pack? How big is your fanny likely to grow? m

Re: Very OT: Aland (Was: Using multiple cameras and formats (was:* ist Digital Question)

2004-01-31 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: "Anders Hultman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Lasse Karlsson: > >Generally I'd say that if the alanders were certain that it was economically > >safe, I think a majority would opt for independence. As it stands there is > >about 10-20% support for independence now. This number will rise till the >

Re: Very OT: Aland (Was: Using multiple cameras and formats (was:* ist Digital Question)

2004-01-31 Thread Anders Hultman
Lasse Karlsson: Generally I'd say that if the alanders were certain that it was economically safe, I think a majority would opt for independence. As it stands there is about 10-20% support for independence now. This number will rise till the next elections in four years. And the rest wants to stay

Very OT: Aland (Was: Using multiple cameras and formats (was:* ist Digital Question)

2004-01-31 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: "Anders Hultman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Stan Halpin: > >Right. But If I say Aland, who but you and Anders would know what/where > >that is? If I just say Sweden, I am insulting Aland. > > I'd think that would be more insulting to Finland than to Åland, > actually, since Åland formally is par

Re: Using multiple cameras and formats (wasRe: * ist Digital Question)

2004-01-31 Thread Anders Hultman
Stan Halpin: Right. But If I say Aland, who but you and Anders would know what/where that is? If I just say Sweden, I am insulting Aland. I'd think that would be more insulting to Finland than to Åland, actually, since Åland formally is part of Finland and not Sweden, even though historically Ål

Re: Using multiple cameras and formats (wasRe: * ist Digital Question)

2004-01-31 Thread Norm Baugher
After I purchased my 6x7, within a month I rarely carried it together with a 35mm body. It's pretty much either or for me as well. If I'm on the move and my primary purpose is not photography, the 35mm bag goes with. Otherwise, it's almost always just the 6x7. Norm Stan Halpin wrote: You migh

Aland and saddles (Was: Using multiple cameras and formats (was * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: "Stan Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Right. But If I say Aland, who but you and Anders would know > what/where that is? All Scandinavian, Finnish and probably Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian and Russian readers would. Besides, you got to start somewhere. (I see my mission here - to put Aland

Re: Using multiple cameras and formats (wasRe: * ist Digital Question)

2004-01-30 Thread Stan Halpin
Right. But If I say Aland, who but you and Anders would know what/where that is? If I just say Sweden, I am insulting Aland. BTW, I thought that was a pretty good suggestion to go on the internet to find a model. I can see the email now: "You want me to come where?! Are you out of your mind?!"

Re: Using multiple cameras and formats (wasRe: * ist Digital Question)

2004-01-30 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: "Stan Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I took both MZ-S and Optio to Sweden and Finland for 10 days > in late September, combination of work and vacation. I > mostly used the Optio. Stan, Just for the record - as far as I'm concerned, you didn't visit Finland (as far as I know) - you visit

Using multiple cameras and formats (wasRe: * ist Digital Question)

2004-01-30 Thread Stan Halpin
Norm Baugher wrote: > For those who have purchased the sunkist, and are relative "digital > newbies" - how has this affected your film camera usage? E.g. when I > bought my 6x7, my 35mm shooting went down by about 75%. Just curious... > Norm Soon after I got my Optio 330 15 months ago I had a

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: "wendy beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I sold all my film bodies (including my beloved LX and 3 MXs) to buy the D. > >And I couldn't be happier. > > > >Christian > > **THUD** (that's me fainting). You sold ALL your MXes. Oh, I could ~never~ > be happy without my

RE: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Malcolm Smith
wendy beard wrote: > >I sold all my film bodies (including my beloved LX and 3 > MXs) to buy the D. > >And I couldn't be happier. > > > >Christian > > **THUD** (that's me fainting). You sold ALL your MXes. Oh, I > could ~never~ be happy without my MX(es) Hmmm. I'd sell the > LX though. Anyone

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread wendy beard
At 12:28 PM 30/01/2004, you wrote: I sold all my film bodies (including my beloved LX and 3 MXs) to buy the D. And I couldn't be happier. Christian **THUD** (that's me fainting). You sold ALL your MXes. Oh, I could ~never~ be happy without my MX(es) Hmmm. I'd sell the LX though. Anyone want to bu

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Norm Baugher
What did you do with your film gear? Norm arnie wrote: film? whats film? i haven't shot film since i got the istD, and i dont plan on. arnie

RE: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Malcolm Smith wrote: > I never saw this > camera as a *film* aid! It looks like it also works as a shield from UFTs. ;-) Kostas

RE: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Malcolm Smith
Norm Baugher wrote: > For those who have purchased the sunkist, and are relative > "digital newbies" - how has this affected your film camera > usage? E.g. when I bought my 6x7, my 35mm shooting went down > by about 75%. Just curious... 35mm B&W - same level 35mm Slide - up 20% 67 - same le

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Christian
I sold all my film bodies (including my beloved LX and 3 MXs) to buy the D. And I couldn't be happier. Christian - Original Message - From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:32 PM Subject: * ist Dig

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Mark Cassino
I've found the *ist-D to be as good or better than 35mm film for some things, not as good for others. I plan to move virtually all of my high magnification works - like macros and birds - over to the *ist-D. That will cut my film use significantly. However, I definitely will continue to shoot

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 30.01.04 12:44, Herb Chong at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > a good lab will handle files too. you just have to pick which ones. So I have to find such a lab yet... The best ones, which I always trusted don't do that leaving all creativity to users. Thanks for inspiration though! -- Best Regards

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Leon Altoff
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:32:22 -0500, Norm Baugher wrote: >For those who have purchased the sunkist, and are relative "digital >newbies" - how has this affected your film camera usage? E.g. when I >bought my 6x7, my 35mm shooting went down by about 75%. Just curious... Norm I appear to have stop

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Herb Chong
a good lab will handle files too. you just have to pick which ones. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:21 AM Subject: Re: * ist Digital Question > I shoot film n

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 30.01.04 4:32, Norm Baugher at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For those who have purchased the sunkist, and are relative "digital > newbies" - how has this affected your film camera usage? E.g. when I > bought my 6x7, my 35mm shooting went down by about 75%. Just curious... I shoot film now very ra

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-30 Thread arnie
film? whats film? i haven't shot film since i got the istD, and i dont plan on. arnie From: "Norm Baugher" > For those who have purchased the sunkist, and are relative "digital > newbies" - how has this affected your film camera usage? E.g. when I > bought my 6x7, my 35mm shooting went down

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Norm Baugher" Subject: * ist Digital Question > For those who have purchased the sunkist, and are relative "digital > newbies" - how has this affected your film camera usage? E.g. when I > bought my 6x7, my 35mm shooting went do

Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-01-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Jan 2004 at 22:32, Norm Baugher wrote: > For those who have purchased the sunkist, and are relative "digital > newbies" - how has this affected your film camera usage? E.g. when I > bought my 6x7, my 35mm shooting went down by about 75%. Just curious... Hi Norm, My 35mm film usage has re

* ist Digital Question

2004-01-29 Thread Norm Baugher
For those who have purchased the sunkist, and are relative "digital newbies" - how has this affected your film camera usage? E.g. when I bought my 6x7, my 35mm shooting went down by about 75%. Just curious... Norm

Re: Digital question

2003-07-15 Thread Dag T
På tirsdag, 15. juli 2003, kl. 02:43, skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: "Hans Imglueck" Subject: Re: Digital question Hi Dag, . But as I mentioned in my first email - digital makes it much more easy. I had this conversation with Dag a couple of months ago. He

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-15 Thread Steve Desjardins
Most of the folks I know are using a computer or a DVD player (some can do this) and a TV to view images. The images are being stored on a hard drive or a CD. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PR

Re: Digital question

2003-07-15 Thread Hans Imglueck
Hi Len, >There are many more advantages to using a computer but most >folks already know that, including yourself, so I won't bore the list >further. Perhaps it's more interesting to give Pentax some more marketing advise ;-) Cheers, Hans. ___

Re: Digital question

2003-07-15 Thread Leonard Paris
r but most folks already know that, including yourself, so I won't bore the list further. Len --- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Digital question Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:43:33 -0600 ---

Re: Yet another digital question

2003-07-14 Thread Lon Williamson
I'd guess the Minoltas are capable of better than that, too. The Minolta samples shown here are _way_ worse than my PIE 3600Pro, which most folks say is the worst out there. Butch Black wrote: That's a pretty severe difference. The main difference in the machines would be the Minolta uses a cold ca

Re: Yet another digital question

2003-07-14 Thread Herb Chong
treme. Herb - Original Message - From: "Butch Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 11:30 Subject: RE: Yet another digital question > That's a pretty severe difference. The main difference in the machines would &

RE: Yet another digital question

2003-07-14 Thread Butch Black
That's a pretty severe difference. The main difference in the machines would be the Minolta uses a cold cathode tube and the Nikon uses LEDs. My guess is that the author had some setting wrong with the Minolta. It's also interesting that the Nikon's color balance was warmer/ more yellow and a bit m

Re: Digital question

2003-07-13 Thread Hans Imglueck
Hi Dag, It is clear that there is always an amount of subjectivity in everything what men are doing - no absolute reality possible. So in this point we agree completely. And it is also clear that men can modify photographs. But as I mentioned in my first email - digital makes it much more easy.

Yet another digital question

2003-07-13 Thread Caveman
http://www.edzardpiltz.de/Minolta_DSMP.html Could anyone try to explain it. I mean, something beyond "N is better than M". What exactly in the construction of the two machines could make them behave that differently. cheers, caveman

Re: Digital question

2003-07-12 Thread Kenneth Waller
TECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital question > On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:23:05 -0400, Caveman wrote: > > > Dag T wrote: > > > > > I do not think that photography is an > > > objective representation of some reality, it

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread T Rittenhouse
My thinking, exactly. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "Leonard Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: Re: Digital question > Because you are a

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Pål Jensen
Matt wrote: I just think that viewing on a monitor and viewing as a print are such different experiences as to make the comparison useless. I also think that typical use of digital images is to ultimately print them. That's all. REPLY: Yeah. I think people are viewing digital on a screen, sli

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Matt Bevers
Every now and then I go back and look at some old slides to get an idea of how much I've improved and how much stricter my standards are now. -Matt On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 06:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: your standards will go up as your skills improve and your select rate will go up o

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Eactivist
>your standards will go up as your skills improve and your select rate will go up only >slightly. my select rate for my stock photos are about 15-20% of the frames i shoot. >about 10% of those are added to my show-to-friends portfolio. >Herb Thanks. That could well be why my select rate ha

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Herb Chong
TED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 18:08 Subject: Re: OT: Digital question > Marnie aka Doe As I get better, the count goes up a bit, but not THAT much.

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Eactivist
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Am I the only one who shoots film and doesn't get a "keeper" on every >shot? Or is everyone else printing and keeping every frame of every >roll? Nope. Not shooting digital, but scanning slides and printing my own prints. However, I have tons of slides I haven't ev

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Leonard Paris
Because you are a valued customer of theirs??? That's a pretty heavy book for them to pay postage on. Len --- Now, on the other hand, I am trying to figure out why B&H has sent me 3, at the last count, copies of their 20lb (only a slight exaggeration) Professional Lighting catalog. Ciao, Graywolf

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Dag T
På fredag, 11. juli 2003, kl. 22:27, Hans Imglueck: May be I missed my point because I used the word painting. Let me say it this way: We are already high quality intelligent stereoscopic digital cameras equiped with a lot of incredible software. Images are taken, modified and composed within. The

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Caveman
God. You're jumping on me even before I'm doing anything ? Do you fear the results ? Why ? For the moment I'm just noticing that a monitor has some advantages to a paper print, i.e. being backlit it has higher contrast and more vivid colors. It's also bigger than the *typical* 4x5 inch minilab

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Matt Bevers
I'm trying to say that "typical use" is to print the keepers whether they were shot on digital or film. This is what I was trying to explain in part B of my previous message, which you chose not to reply to or even quote in making your snide response. I'll copy it again here in case anyone mi

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Cotty
>From: "Caveman" >Subject: OT: Digital question > > >> Anyone that has seen some statistics on the viewing media for images >> taken with digital cameras ? I mean, what would be the percents of >> images viewed: >> >> a) on computer monitors >

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Caveman
Matt Bevers wrote: A) I didn't say "the best" I said "good" please don't twist my words around. I said "typical use". If you want something else, feel free to perform your own test. cheers, caveman

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Matt Bevers
I'm about the same - I sometimes get a few more per roll, but often I like to save these more so I can learn something than because they are perfect. I'd say I print about 2-3% of what I shoot. -Matt On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 02:49 PM, Lon Williamson wrote: In my hands, there are rolls tha

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Lon Williamson
In my hands, there are rolls that are a complete waste. I once got what I considered 5 "good" shots from 1 24-frame roll. My highest percentage of keepers ever. The old rule of thumb "1 good shot per roll" seems to be about average for me. Matt Bevers wrote: Am I the only one who shoots film and

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Matt Bevers
A) I didn't say "the best" I said "good" please don't twist my words around. B) I don't mean "good" as in the best quality possible, I mean "good" in terms of the best of a number of photos taken with the same camera. Say you take 10 pictures of Aunt Bea at her birthday party, 2 have someone

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Caveman
It will achieve the stated goal, i.e. compare them in typical use. If you want to compare "the best" of each, you may want to compare a 8x10 slide to a print from the best MF digital back. I don't have the money nor the inclination to do such test. Matt Bevers wrote: Again, I would argue that

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Jul 2003 at 12:38, T Rittenhouse wrote: > You seem to have missed the never copied from the camera part. I'd submit that they do get copied from the camera to the 'puter then most likely are then emailed to all and sundry or at least those at the party/dinner/pick-nick/birthday/christenin

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Matt Bevers
Again, I would argue that the good digital photos end up as prints, so you should print both and compare those. Comparing a screen image to a print is essentially useless. It should however, achieve your goal of once again "proving" that digital is inferior. -Matt On Friday, July 11, 2003, a

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Hans Imglueck
That is exactly the point. And let me add: Digital allows people to modify their pictures. You can easily add the date and time (no need for data back any more), you can even include thoughts or feelings into the image (don't need to write it in the album), and what is more you can hide disturbing

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 06:18 Subject: Re: Digital question Are you sure its a generational thing. I don't recall getting very many prints from slides which account for 95 percent (best guess) of my personal (as opposed to work related) photo work sinc

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Matt Bevers
On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 01:10 AM, T Rittenhouse wrote: These statistics tend to prove what I always figured. Digital cameras are status symbols, not photographic tools. I actually don't imagine these stats are much different from film cameras. I mean, how many people do you know that stil

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Herb Chong
w the actual number though, but it is miniscule compared to their print film sales. Herb - Original Message - From: "Otis C. Wright, Jr." <"rusty."@att.net> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 06:18 Subject: Re: Digital question > A

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Message - From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 01:10 Subject: Re: Digital question These statistics tend to prove what I always figured. Digital cameras are status symbols, not photographic tools.

Re: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Herb Chong
no it doesn't. it means that prints are irrelevant to the new generation. Herb... - Original Message - From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 01:10 Subject: Re: Digital question > These statisti

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-11 Thread Leon Altoff
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:47:25 -0400, Herb Chong wrote: >i think the number of people who print from a digital camera is a lot less than 10% >of the images. i would think that 1% is a high number, and most of that small >fraction would be on inkjet printers. I use a digital camera at work for wo

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-10 Thread Stan Halpin
on 7/10/03 2:34 PM, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For myself, I think I have made 2 inkjet prints from several hundred digital > exposures, and had a dozen 4x6 proofs made for a particular purpose. > So, > inkjet prints: >.5% > Effectively 0%, as when I took that particular series of

Re: Digital question

2003-07-10 Thread George Sinos
In response to: > Anyone that has seen some statistics on the viewing media for images > taken with digital cameras ? I mean, what would be the percents of > images viewed: > > a) on computer monitors > b) as home made inkjet prints > c) as lab prints At a recent neighborhood party - 3 people had

Re: Digital question

2003-07-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Caveman" Subject: OT: Digital question > Anyone that has seen some statistics on the viewing media for images > taken with digital cameras ? I mean, what would be the percents of > images viewed: > > a) on computer monitors > b

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-10 Thread Eactivist
>Anyone that has seen some statistics on the viewing media for images >taken with digital cameras ? I mean, what would be the percents of >images viewed: >a) on computer monitors >b) as home made inkjet prints >c) as lab prints >cheers, >caveman In fact, it would be kind of fun to do an unoffi

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-10 Thread Herb Chong
ED]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 13:41 Subject: Re: OT: Digital question > >Anyone that has seen some statistics on the viewing media for images > >taken with digital cameras ? I mean, what would be the percents of > >images viewed: > > >a) on computer monitors &g

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-10 Thread Eactivist
>Anyone that has seen some statistics on the viewing media for images >taken with digital cameras ? I mean, what would be the percents of >images viewed: >a) on computer monitors >b) as home made inkjet prints >c) as lab prints >cheers, >caveman No idea. I'll ask my friends who use digital (no

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-10 Thread Rfsindg
Caveman asks and [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes < my speculations in brackets >: > > Anyone that has seen some statistics on the viewing media for images > > taken with digital cameras ? I mean, what would be the percents of > > images viewed: > > > > a) on computer monitors > > b) as home made inkjet

Re: OT: Digital question

2003-07-10 Thread brooksdj
> Anyone that has seen some statistics on the viewing media for images > taken with digital cameras ? I mean, what would be the percents of > images viewed: > > a) on computer monitors > b) as home made inkjet prints > c) as lab prints > > cheers, > cave

Re: dumb digital question

2003-01-10 Thread Peter Alling
Apparently everyone's mileage varies. I'm using ME for it's disaster recovery capabilities, I'm constantly doing something that causes systems lockups. ME recovers from a re-boot after a lockup more often. (I hate to think the number of times I've had to re-install 95 and 98 because they got so b

Re: dumb digital question

2003-01-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That depends on your OS as well. Yep. The original Win95 won't do USB at all. Win 95 OSR2 had USB capability but it was a bit shaky. Win98 seems to be rock solid with USB as far as I can tell - at least, since I updated my chipset drivers after I bought m

Re: dumb digital question

2003-01-10 Thread Mark Roberts
"T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >No problem. I have it working now. It was a dumb blonde catagory error. e.g. >PS won't recognise the USB printer if the printer wasn't on when PS was >open. BTW, according to USB standards, it should. I usually leave the >printer off unless I am going to

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