Well, chiming in here as I've used both, I would definitely have to
say that my favorite of the 2 is sound forge. However, I do find
Goldwave to be effecive if all you need to do is a quick touchup job
on somehing, or maybe add an efect or something. It all depends on
what job you wanna do.
I think you can probably get Soundforge at a lower price from Chirpingbatt!
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:30 AM
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>I agree. I don't know where that price w
Thanks for your comments! Actually, I got Soundforge about five years ago,
when there was an offer to get it for about $99. It didn't take long, and
after the offer expired, it was supposed to go back to its regular price.
One of the reasons I purchased it was because I was impressed with the
Oh, I can use a prog called addawav and merge files together and make Winamp
play them OK. I wonder if that is my problem with time issues when I
fastforward or rewind more so than the SQR plugin? I convert all the wma I
record off replay AV into wav so that I can have better performance with my
Brent, the two gig limit is inherent in the wav file format. Sound Forge is
constrained by it too.
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I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am things like
the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features, compression, and
mixing choices. But, that doesn't mean that my needs are the same as everybody
else on this list. So, at the very least a person should be
I would get forge before spending almost the same on Studio Recorder. Yeah,
Studio Recorder can whack unwanted parts out of files fine and resave, but
the 2 gig limit is hard to deal with and SF has more features for about the
same price. I think the thing that Studio recorder has going for is
Yeah, not sure what state rehab would do, but can't hold one's breath on
them forever as many aren't very technically savvy to know why things need
to be done the way they do. I was thinking the refurbed stuff if it came to
having to try to afford it oneself.
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Well, I would say that it probably is too high for the average individual.
But, my guess is that the price and quality are aimed at the professional sound
studio or sound engineer. Goldwave is a very good software, but I would doubt
that you would find it the software of choice in a profession
You would be hard pressed to find an employer that would be willing to
invest that kind of money, after all they simply want to get the best bang
for the buck.
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Well I can tell you first hand although I worked for a national broadcaster
they were not very kind to persons with disabilities Those of us with a
disability usually got the weekend shifts, all nighters and the early
morning shift even if we had the senority that would entitle us to a more
de
Yeah, unfortunately speech on Windows still requires a reboot, but
everything practically did in 98 and below. I wish things could get to the
point where one just restarts modules of the system instead of taking it all
down to do things. People everywhere would appreciate that as reboots are
do
Oh, I thought that was the broadcast automation where you'd import the wav
files or whatever from another editor into. I think the best interface is
probably Studio Recorder from APH because it has the sound forge feel to it
with the brackets doing selecting and the ability to scrub ahead and su
Well, maybe so, I will never say never because never is a mighty long time.
But, When do you think they would install the speech and all that stuff.
Very few, I say few engineers would want to take their main automation
computer offline to not only just install the stuff, but test it. The folks
Blind people, in my view can play a tremendous role behind the scenes if
only given the chance. In mhy case I was labeled as one of the best audio
editors in the business. Keep in mind that in those days we had nothing more
to work with than a greese pencil, audio tape and splicing tape. Today
I could see a braille display being of help, even if it's a referbed braille
lite 20 or 40 bought from FS for around $1900. In that type of situation,
things could work all right as long as one got all the info that is needed.
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Yeah, I think it's like that in a lot of industries. Of course there are
some exceptions where blind people ended up working for big companies but if
it weren't for the fact of doing something nice, why would they pay for or
take the time to work to get things going for us?
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You are so correct. I have a friend at our local adult sstation who tells me
when he has a shift, he goes in to the control room and has two buttons. One
is the mic, and the other is marked "Next Event!" All of his scripts are on
the screne as is his log, playlist, show, you name it. Not many st
Wow! I bet that's where those prefilled drives you find on Ebay now and then
are. I think I found a few once just looking for the size of drive I wanted
for my machine to sort of get a price range. I was thinking of buying it for
the drive more than the stuff that may or may not really be on it
Yep, the small station route is definitely the way to go. The big boys are
not willing to train you, and they are not prepared to give you the time of
day. I'm afraid that they are motivated by money. They are not going to hire
persons with disabilities unless legislated to do so, and I honestly
It is my understanding that the 1500 songs that most stations have on their
rotating play list are downloaded from special websites that are set up by
the record companies and are simply inserted into the daily play list, thus
eliminating this particular function. At one time I was a music libra
I think the smaller stuff has more of a chance of being simpler and having
people willing to work with visually impaired people if it was a community
LP station or something similar to the WQNA channel I've heard online.
Station Playlist 4 looks promising in the projected feature enhancements,
I know one thing related to broadcasting, sort of indirectly, that needs to
be done is the massive CD ripping project stations go through on every
format flip and ongoing as new music arrives. Unless they have CD-Rom
changers for the computer (would be nice also for backing up large drives on
D
That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station including the
building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority of
broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive equipment nor
are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide for workplace
a
Hi Brandon,
Sounds like that broadcasting school doesn't want to deal with you. Yes
you can do it. Although when I did it 4 years ago the college couldn't
afford the expensive software that the commercial stations were using. We
still used cds, mini disks and some carts. I brailled up al
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Jonathan:
And just what are these tasks?
s
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge
> Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would ch
Yeah, I'd say 2 to 3 thousand would be more like it, would have to have a
hardware synth, JFW or Window-eyes, whichever works better with the software
or what one is used to, and potential scripting. I could see a braille
display useful if one were to need to read a lot of stuff on the air but
I'd be asking for a breakdown. Sounds like a way to get him to give up the
idea because they'd not want to be bothered.
Honestly, with the climate of radio, who would want to broadcast for a
living. Bad wages, no ability to play what one wants, and I hate clear
chanle and the other large medi
Wow! $500,000 would buy an aweful lot of equipment. I know of no studio
worth that much in equipment alone unless one was talking about buying an
actual building.
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Hi,
Boy are they full of it.
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Hi Brian, I haven't checked the version 8 manual to find out what they
suggest most recently, so I'll certainly do that. Thanks.
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hi list,
I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there are people out
there who have done it, so i emailed a local school that teaches a course
for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when i asked about a blind
person attending.
Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting b
Hi Jonathan,
Have you ran all the optimizations Sony suggests in their manual for Sound
Forge? There are quite a few of them actually.
best Regards
Brian
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No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go with
what you
Hi,
No one is saying to do any such thing. use whatever you are comfortable
with. We are not telling goldwave users to go to SF or telling SF users
that they should switch to goldwave.
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But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable with
Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold Wave,seems,
frankly, like an exercise in futility! Not to extend this thread, by any
means (groan)!
-Mac-
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Hi Doc, I would absolutely agree with this. Sound Forge does require more
grunt. Studio Recorder is extremely snappy, even on quite slow machines, and
Goldwave is better than Sound Forge in terms of its responsiveness on such
machines as well.
The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all th
John what is your opinion that some feel that SF is more memory intensive
than Goldwave?
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Hi Dennis, this is all fi
WHAT KIND OF COMMEN TASKS.
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> Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would challenge
> the
> mos
SAME HERE.
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge
>I would accept your challenge, Jonathan.
>
> Bruce
>
> --
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I would accept your challenge, Jonathan.
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Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would challenge the
most experienced blind Goldwave user to perform a series of common tasks
used in sound editing, because I know which product would complete them
first. No big deal if you're just doing this as a hobby, but if you're more
se
I'd have to respectfully agree with Bruce here. Goldwave is an excellent
program if you know how to use it correctly. It not be SF but then again I
am not trying to make money using it either. A lot of us can't afford $250
for SF and its kind of unfair to paint goldwave the way you have for t
Please note, the following message contains one descriptive udderance of
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I'd personally rather use Audacity over gold wave, and Audacity's some what
of a bitch. What does that say about Gold wave? Plus, audacity is free.
Thanks,
Nick
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I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO A LOT OF WORK FOR ESPN HERE AND USE GOLDWAVE FOR
EVERYTHING. ALSO DO A LOT OF RECORDING AND EDITTING FOR A COUPLE BANDS THAT
I'M IN AND ALSO USE GOLDWAVE FOR THAT. VERY CONFORTABLE WITH IT. THE MENUES
ARE COMPLETELY EASY TO USE AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED SCRIPTS AT ALL TO WO
I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is by
many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
there are people wh
also you can change the amount of movement by presssing shift+up arrow to
decrease and shift+down arrow to increase
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
Hi
Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of view, if
you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done most
efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't even worth your
consideration. I say this because the reason Sound Forge became the leading
single
Samuel! Sound Forge has come down in price a lot since five years ago.
Right now you can get it from Chirping Bat for $225.00. This includes Noise
Reduction 2.0 that Sony sells by itself for $279.
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Thanks,
I forgot to mention that.
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You can also set start and finish markers with shift+e, thenenterin a
precise time.
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Hi,
Selecting start marker is with left bracket key and selecting finish marker
is don with the right bracket key. Moving them is done by using the Shift
left and right cursor for the start marker and control shift right and left
cursors for the finish marker.
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I haven't been able to do it either. I haven't figured out how to mark begin
and end points, and then separate the selection I have marked. I was afraid
to ask because of some of these lists if you don't get a concept as fast as
some think you should, your put in a very very bad light.
- O
That's interesting.
Goldwave can be adjusted to edit within thousands of a second.
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:42 AM
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> the only thing I wish that
Now what if i want to burn it as one track. can this be done? Randy.
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>I can answer your second question: You can sp
Hi Bruce,
Yes that is very handy. There is also a speed adjust on the other window
but its hard for me to adjust back to 1x speed there.
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One thing you might want to take advantage of is the ability to set the
speed for fast forward and rewind from within the options dialog. You can,
in fact, get it to slow down the speed for fast forward and rewind.
Bruce
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I just have to get getter with moving the markers and fast forward rewind
controls.
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:13 PM
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> Use fast forward and rewind fo
Hi,
I'm no expert either but it can be done. And maybe SF can do it easier I
don't honestly know.
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no but I have no clue what that is anyways
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Use fast forward and rewind for that sort of precision. I'm able to quite
easily wind up with a selection that is no longer than a record pop.
Bruce
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Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big clicks
from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
manipulating the start finish markers I guess!
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Can you scrub in Goldwave like you can in SoundForge?
HF
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> It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the ha
With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How much
finer do you want than that?
Bruce
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It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it its not
hard to do with goldwave. I am interested in Sf as well just don't have the
money to spend on it. I do feel for the money goldwave is the best editor.
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I can confirm the problem with the repeat button. I wish they would
fix that but it isn't fatal.
Dean
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This does sound like great editing capability!
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
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> Hi Gary,
>
> I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave. Ho
I think that one problem Soundforge has is that it doesn't have multitrack
capabilities!
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> the only thing I wish
What is the difference between the "Stream Capture Button" and the
"Url Finder Button" Seem to do same sort of thing. When would you use
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If I choose the capture method of "Stream Capture Raw" I get no
options for conversion to MP3 or WAV or anything.
If I choose "Stream Capture as MP3" I can convert to WAV and other
formats. Would this mean a loss of quality going from MP3 back to WAV.
Seems strange there is no option to capture
Hi Gary,
I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave. How much more could you
need?
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the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any price.
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Hi David,
I work for the local Radio Reading service of Central Massachusetts. When
I'm not doing the 9 to 5 thing I volunteer my time to host a radio program that
covers a wide variety of blind related issues. The station is not net based and
therefore I am not using Shoutcast. Simply put
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I can answer your second question: You can split a large all tracks as
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I agree. I don't know where that price was obtained but it is WAY WAY WAY
WAY OFF. I thought I saw it some where for about $250. It all comes down to
what do you want to do and what can you afford.
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Nobody paid that much for SF, unless they had money to throw away.
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>I also have a comment to make about Goldwave a
I think that goldwave is excellent value for the money. It works well
right out of the box, or should I say virtual box, and it can even be used
with ms narrator, if you are already somewhat familiar with the program.
I understand that sound forge is much faster, but I thought that the demo
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