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From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


>I would accept your challenge, Jonathan.
>
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> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
>
>> Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would challenge 
>> the
>> most experienced blind Goldwave user to perform a series of common tasks
>> used in sound editing, because I know which product would complete them
>> first. No big deal if you're just doing this as a hobby, but if you're 
>> more
>> serious than that, time is money.
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 4:22 p.m.
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO A LOT OF WORK FOR ESPN HERE AND USE GOLDWAVE FOR
>> EVERYTHING. ALSO DO A LOT OF RECORDING AND EDITTING FOR A COUPLE BANDS 
>> THAT
>> I'M IN AND ALSO USE GOLDWAVE FOR THAT. VERY CONFORTABLE WITH IT. THE 
>> MENUES
>> ARE COMPLETELY EASY TO USE AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED SCRIPTS AT ALL TO WORK
>> WITH IT.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:17 PM
>> Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>> I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
>>> considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
>>> by  many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
>>> professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
>>> there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
>>> who  will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a
>>> sound  editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as
>>> I am,  then the power is there.
>>>
>>> bruce
>>>
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>>> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of
>>>> view, if you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done
>>>> most efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't
>>>> even worth your consideration. I say this because the reason Sound
>>>> Forge became the leading
>>>> single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in 
>>>> which
>>
>>>> it
>>>> embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if 
>>>> you're
>>>> a
>>>> competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how 
>>>> to
>>>> select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with
>>>> Sound
>>>> Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of
>>>> Goldwave
>>>> and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For
>>>> example,
>>>> the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly
>>>> easy
>>>> to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to
>>>> Windows
>>>> standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of 
>>>> serious
>>>> consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special 
>>>> affects.
>>>>
>>>> For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating
>>>> sound
>>>> in
>>>> Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave 
>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>> If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's
>>>> cut
>>>> down
>>>> version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions,
>>>> although
>>>> Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound
>>>> Forge.
>>>> If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play
>>>> with,
>>>> maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
>>>> environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
>>>> power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms
>>>> of
>>>> functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
>>>> experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs,
>>>> I'd
>>>> say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. 
>>>> Goldwave
>>
>>>> is
>>>> in a different class.
>>>>
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>>>> songs.
>>>>
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