Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] opkg upgrade all

2016-03-30 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-03-30 02:48 AM, Michal Hrusecky wrote: Yep, I understand all those. My question was whether upgrade all is disabled just because of this ideological stuff and in hope that users wouldn't find and try one of the posts I linked or whether there is anything really broken. It's *not* ideolog

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH/RFC] dnsmasq: run as dedicated UID/GID

2016-04-25 Thread Daniel Dickinson
> > please us an id between 0-999. ideally check what debian uses. > For most system services, with a very small number exceptions, debian auto-assigns id < 500(?), and which service gets id depends on order of package installation (which can be hassle with when trying to do network filesystems)

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-04 12:25 PM, Kathy Giori wrote: > Also wearing my hat within the prpl Foundation, which is funded by > industry sponsorships that in turn provides financial support for > OpenWrt, no one I have spoken to in prpl understands the reason for > this spin-off either. It'll cause more confusion

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-04 06:52 PM, Karl Palsson wrote: > > Daniel Dickinson wrote: >> >> Silly question, but can you outline some specific examples of >> contributions that an outsider like me has somehow missed as >> being as concrete examples of companies contributing back t

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-04 07:01 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On 16-05-04 06:52 PM, Karl Palsson wrote: >> >> Daniel Dickinson wrote: >>> >>> Silly question, but can you outline some specific examples of >>> contributions that an outsider like me has somehow m

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-04 07:32 PM, Kathy Giori wrote: > > Daniel I fully concur that industry "give back" is severely lacking. > It seems to me that the bigger the company, the less likely they are > to give back. One of the goals of the prpl Foundation was to help big > industry members to better "see" that p

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-04 07:21 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On 16-05-04 07:01 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: >> On 16-05-04 06:52 PM, Karl Palsson wrote: >>> >>> Daniel Dickinson wrote: > It also seems to me (as an outsider) that those who do contribute are > small open-sour

[OpenWrt-Devel] Getting in touch with Felix

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi, How does one get in touch with Felix these days? n...@openwrt.org bounces for me. Regards, Daniel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-04 07:59 PM, Fernando Frediani wrote: > Just curious to know by the names that signed the announcement of the > new project being know OpenWrt Developers why weren't there enough votes > inside OpenWrt to do this reboot and reorganize it completely under the > LEDE Project ideas ? I don't

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-04 04:01 PM, mbm wrote: > Dear OpenWrt community, > > spin off the OpenWrt project in the first place as a way to fix the > project and its community. Also, the phrases such as a "reboot" are both > vague and misleading and the LEDE project failed to identify its true > nature. The LEDE a

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-05 05:34 AM, Roman Yeryomin wrote: > On 5 May 2016 at 06:48, Daniel Dickinson wrote: >> On 16-05-04 04:01 PM, mbm wrote: >>> Dear OpenWrt community, >>> [snip] > > One simple question: > If LEDE team members are the ones who were suffering from

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
> > --John > > > On 5/5/16 11:04 AM, Roman Yeryomin wrote: >> On 5 May 2016 at 17:43, Daniel Dickinson >> wrote: >>> On 16-05-05 05:34 AM, Roman Yeryomin wrote: >>>> On 5 May 2016 at 06:48, Daniel Dickinson >>>> wrote: >>>>>

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-05 11:24 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On 16-05-05 11:11 AM, John Clark wrote: >>>> the sudden deletion of our widely published openwrt.org email >> addresses somewhat undermines this >> >> Just so I am not jumping to wrong conclusions, their *.openwrt.org

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-05 11:38 AM, Jonathan Bennett wrote: > There is plenty of blame to go around, I think. Seems like the Lede > guys should have had the decency to at least inform the Openwrt > leadership privately that they were planning this venture. The surprise The problem is that LEDE is pretty much

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-05 12:21 PM, Jonathan Bennett wrote: [snip] > > The changes that the Lede guys are suggesting would be welcome, but > > splitting the project and community with an ugly fork is very much not > > welcome. > > Let's just say that there are strong personalities who haven't be

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-05 12:24 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On 16-05-05 12:21 PM, Jonathan Bennett wrote: > [snip] >> > The changes that the Lede guys are suggesting would be welcome, but >> > splitting the project and community with an ugly fork is very much not >> &

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-05 12:59 PM, Roman Yeryomin wrote: > On 5 May 2016 at 19:29, Daniel Dickinson wrote: >> On 16-05-05 12:24 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: >>> On 16-05-05 12:21 PM, Jonathan Bennett wrote: >>> [snip] [snip] >> When I say broken I mean I think openwrt was d

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-05 01:49 PM, Roman Yeryomin wrote: > On 5 May 2016 at 20:09, Daniel Dickinson wrote: >> On 16-05-05 12:59 PM, Roman Yeryomin wrote: >>> On 5 May 2016 at 19:29, Daniel Dickinson >>> wrote: >>>> On 16-05-05 12:24 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: >&

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Might I submit that my impression is that Kaloz (at least) holds infrastructure hostage to maintain control, and that the fundamental problem here is that OpenWrt is *not* democratic and ignores what people who were ones visibly working on openwrt want and overrides their wishes because he/they has

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-05 03:22 PM, mbm wrote: > On 5/5/2016 7:40 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote: >> Many of the changes that we previously tried to introduce were often >> squashed by internal disagreements. Resulting discussions often turned >> toxic quickly and led to nothing being done to address the issues. >> Set

[OpenWrt-Devel] Calmer heads than mine...

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, Sorry for sounding off so much yet again. I've been trying to interpret events with a severe lack of information and have unfavourable guesses and impressions that may or may not be accurate. I do know that some of the developers have a history of not getting along, and that has hurt the

[OpenWrt-Devel] A request for more clarity on the fork

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I know other community members of complained about the lack of information about the reasons for the fork (they and I don't think LEDE's official announcement really provides enough information to really understand the situation) and I especially do badly in a vacuum - I tend to strain to

[OpenWrt-Devel] Scrap that, David makes sense (was Re: A request for more clarity on the fork)

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
I think David Lang makes a lot of sense; it took years to reach this point, better to carry on independently, but working together as much as can be managed, and let time both settle the dust and demonstrate which ideas really pan out. Add to this that with years of toxic arguments (as acknowledge

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Scrap that, David makes sense (was Re: A request for more clarity on the fork)

2016-05-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
had guesses but now I'm second guessing my guesses, and really it shouldn't be a guessing game, particularly since both sides claim to be interested in transparency and the best interests of the community. C'mon, can we have more than political statements, please? On 16-05-05 11:42 PM

[OpenWrt-Devel] Apology (was Re: Introducing the LEDE project)

2016-05-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi Imre, I'm doing this a lot lately. I'm sorry for publicly making guesses, stating impressions that were not fair to you. I do not know what the truth is and trying divine the information with the little information I have doesn't work, and is not fair. Sorry. Regards, Daniel __

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-06 07:53 AM, Imre Kaloz wrote: > On Thu, 05 May 2016 18:24:09 +0200, Daniel Dickinson > wrote: > >> On 16-05-05 12:21 PM, Jonathan Bennett wrote: >> [snip] >>> > The changes that the Lede guys are suggesting would be welcome, >>> but >

[OpenWrt-Devel] Guest who is using openwrt (was Fwd: Build failed in Jenkins: PandoraBoxFireware » PandoraBox_Build_Beta » MT7628,Linux #14)

2016-05-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi List, For your amusement. Anyone want to PandoraBox is using OpenWrt ;-) (That is I have no affilation with PandoraBox; their CI screwed up). Regards, Daniel Forwarded Message Subject: Build failed in Jenkins: PandoraBoxFireware » PandoraBox_Build_Beta » MT7628,Linux #14

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] Failed to execute /usr/libexec/login.sh

2016-05-11 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-11 06:08 PM, Alexey Brodkin wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > Looks like one recent commit: [snip] > > breaks something for my boards (in particular arc770-based boards). > I'm unable to activate console now. That's what I'm getting > every time I press ENTER: > ->8

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] Failed to execute /usr/libexec/login.sh

2016-05-11 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 16-05-11 06:08 PM, Alexey Brodkin wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > > breaks something for my boards (in particular arc770-based boards). > I'm unable to activate console now. That's what I'm getting > every time I press ENTER: > ->8- > Failed to e

[OpenWrt-Devel] Why does multiple instance dnsmasq work with jails but not without?

2016-05-17 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I had a patch that I submitted to the openwrt list sometime back that launched multiple instances of dnsmasq, so long as the instances were either tied to specific, non-overlapping, interfaces, or used different dns port, but at least in the case of different interfaces it only worked (to

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PROPOSAL] move OpenWrt codebase to Git and GitHub

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 16:46 +0200, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote: > Hi Luka, > > this is fantastic news! > > I'd be very interested in your future progress on the CI front. > Let's just not make the mistake other projects make and turn CI into a an excuse to not have proper releases and a stablisation

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PROPOSAL] move OpenWrt codebase to Git and GitHub

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 16:20 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 16:46 +0200, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote: > > Hi Luka, > > > > this is fantastic news! > > > > I'd be very interested in your future progress on the CI front. > > >

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt / LEDE

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 00:23 +0300, Roman Yeryomin wrote: [snip] > > I do not plan to contribute much to OpenWrt any more and I do not know > > if I can commit anything any more, at least it looks like I was kicked > > from the openwrt-hackers mailing list without informing me. > > I believe LEDE

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt / LEDE

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 18:18 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 23:57 +0200, Zoltan HERPAI wrote: > [snip] > > Hi, > > >> I would like to see a reunion of LEDE and OpenWrt, so do any of the non > > >> LEDE but OpenWrt core devs have any

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt / LEDE

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 23:57 +0200, Zoltan HERPAI wrote: [snip] > Hi, > >> I would like to see a reunion of LEDE and OpenWrt, so do any of the non > >> LEDE but OpenWrt core devs have any problems with the LEDE rules and so on? > >> > > This is my personal opinion and this was not somehow internal

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt / LEDE

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 08:45 +0800, Yousong Zhou wrote: > > > > To a certain extent you yourself acknowledge individual opinion (with > > you over a beer comment), but you seem to think that such a view of > > individual opinions are not as valid in the public domain, whereas our > > expectation is

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt / LEDE

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 20:57 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 08:45 +0800, Yousong Zhou wrote: > > > > > > To a certain extent you yourself acknowledge individual opinion (with > > > you over a beer comment), but you seem to think that s

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt / LEDE

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 21:19 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > > > Let's just save such non-sense sense of culture and expectation > > > discussion in another place. > > Perhaps the issue is the notion of a monolithic culture - that is *not* > what meant. There a

[OpenWrt-Devel] [OT] Implemented: not an ML erase button but at least a rethink switch

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I've recognized I have to do something about my impulse emailing and have just finished implementing a technical solution that requires me to verify that really do want to send the mail, and verification can't be done until a configured amount of time has elapsed. Hopefully this will keep

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt / LEDE

2016-05-25 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 01:13 -0700, mbm wrote: > > [snip] > > Let's see if any of the remaining OpenWrt devs at least publicly support > > adopting them or some variation of them. As I've said before my > > impression is that LEDE-style rules are not all that welcomed (and > > that's based on th

[OpenWrt-Devel] Transparency and discussion of merge openwrt and lede

2016-05-25 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi, Might I humbly submit that given the different timezone and the fact that LEDE claims to be wanting to be transparent, and that remaining OpenWrt claims to be willing to accept such policies, that Jow's suggestion of doing the discussion openly on the openwrt-devel and lede-dev mailings lists

[OpenWrt-Devel] I've come round to your way of thinking

2016-05-25 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Sorry sent from the wrong email address, not sure where it it actually got posted and where not. Hi Oswald, I'm sorry I suggested you were an unrealistic idealogue, and for questioning your credentials; while I haven't verified them I'm sure you do have more experience than I gave you credit for,

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [OT] Implemented: not an ML erase button but at least a rethink switch

2016-05-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Thu, 2016-05-26 at 11:29 +0200, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > hope you're doing well nowadays. > > I sincerely appreciate your participation in the discussions surrounding > the whole OpenWrt/LEDE topic especially since it helps giving another, > outside perspective to the entire is

[OpenWrt-Devel] Response to LEDE proposal/queries/mail?

2016-06-07 Thread Daniel Dickinson
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Response to LEDE proposal/queries/mail?

2016-06-08 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 14:42 +0200, Zoltan HERPAI wrote: > Daniel Dickinson wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I had a few emails on this topic I thought better of sending, but I'm > > sure I'm not the only one wondering why the remaining OpenWrt devs have > > not respon

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [openwrt/packages] mail/postfix: Use more FHS compliant /srv for data (#3059)

2016-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sun, 2016-08-14 at 11:39 -0700, Michael Heimpold wrote: > Hi, > could you please elaborate, why do you think that /srv is a more FHS- > compliant choice? I agree, that /usr is really the wrong place to put > data there, but according to my understanding of the FHS, /srv is not > even better, bec

[OpenWrt-Devel] Jails current broken due to not following symlinks

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, In Chaos Calmer revision 46996 which bumps procd to latest git breaks jails because Etienne's code fails to follow symlinks. This is a major problem because especially for libraries symlinks are what is reported int the ELF header (and for busybox 'binaries', or other multicall binar

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jails current broken due to not following symlinks

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 2015-10-07 11:16 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi all, In Chaos Calmer revision 46996 which bumps procd to latest git breaks jails because Etienne's code fails to follow symlinks. This is a major problem because especially for libraries symlinks are what is reported int the ELF header (

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jails current broken due to not following symlinks

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel Dickinson
n previous version of Chaos Calmer (release commit) on ar71xx and it was not necessary to add the symlink targets to procd_jail_mount in that case. Regards, Daniel On 2015-10-08 2:18 AM, John Crispin wrote: On 08/10/2015 06:01, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi again, It turns out the pro

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jails current broken due to not following symlinks

2015-10-08 Thread Daniel Dickinson
, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Ok, I thought I had found the root cause but all I'm left with is that symlinks aren't followed. That is when procd-jail is installed and using procd_add_jail (or manually executing ujail) on x86_64 using squashfs, on (for example) /usr/sbin/ntpd (which is a

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jails current broken due to not following symlinks

2015-10-09 Thread Daniel Dickinson
). Regards, Daniel On 2015-10-08 11:46 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi all, Reverting to 15.05 release fails to resolve the issue on x86_64 so I suspect jails are simply broken on x86_64 due not following symlinks. For some reason ar71xx does follow the symlinks and does not experience this issue

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH 1/9] ar71xx: PowerCloud CAP324 kernel support To: openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org

2015-12-09 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Seems like we've been accumulating separate patches for adding individual boards again, I'm going to clean up that stuff later. When you've fixed the issues that I've pointed out already, please also restructure your patches to add the mach files individually, then a commit that integrates your bo

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH 8/9] ar71xx: PowerCloud CR5000 image generation

2015-12-09 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Should be cr5000-nocloud. Did you test this? I compiled but had overlooked the missing image. Also, the mtd layout looks wrong to me. Kill the kernel/rootfs partitions, add just the firmware part in their place (without the explicit offset), and let the kernel figure out the kernel/rootfs spli

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH 1/9] ar71xx: PowerCloud CAP324 kernel support To: openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org

2015-12-09 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 09/12/15 04:07 PM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2015-12-09 21:47, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2015-12-09 21:02, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Seems like we've been accumulating separate patches for adding individual boards again, I'm going to clean up that stuff later. When you've fixed

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] v2: Add support for three PowerCloud devices

2015-12-16 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Urgh, rebase combined the image generation for all three devices. Do you want me to split and resend? On 16/12/15 09:24 AM, open...@daniel.thecshore.com wrote: I noticed Felix did the reorganization so as promised here is the new patch series using the new organization. All images have been te

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] package/utils/busybox: Jail sysntpd

2015-12-17 Thread Daniel Dickinson
:34 GMT+01:00 mailto:open...@daniel.thecshore.com>>: From: Daniel Dickinson mailto:open...@daniel.thecshore.com>> Note that not all of procfs sysfs log and ubus may be required for actual operation, they are just what strace reveals attempting to make accesses. Signed

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] v2: Add support for three PowerCloud devices

2015-12-17 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Apparently I had a major keyboarding malfunction that caused important parts of the patch to disappear during a rebase. I know they were there because I tested on all the devices, now it doesn't build. I am fixing and testing now. Regards, Daniel On 16/12/15 09:31 AM, Daniel Dickinson

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] feeds: Add option for build-time configuration of opkg repositories

2015-12-19 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 19/12/15 06:24 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2015-12-18 05:19, open...@daniel.thecshore.com wrote: From: Daniel Dickinson It can be convenient to separate builds into base system (included in SDK), and task-oriented SDK builds (so that you limit the number of packages which you must build at

[OpenWrt-Devel] Why default of XATTR in kernel but not userspace?

2015-12-20 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I've been working on a patch for making POSIX ACL support and userspace support of POSIX ACL and XATTR (extended attributes) a configuration option at compile time and noticed something rather wonky: While for POSIX ACL the default is disabled both at the kernel level and in userpace

[OpenWrt-Devel] A note on selects vs. DEPENDS

2015-12-21 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I just discovered something. It seems that in a package if you have a config section that does select PACKAGE_condition_dependency then the build succeeds but when you do opkg install, opkg does not 'know' about the dependency. That means if you have a situation like lldpd where you

[OpenWrt-Devel] default console patch / avoiding differential busybox builds

2015-12-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I just thought I'd let you know I got thinking about the patch making the config option to make console login the default on certain platform and the undesirable fact that it alters the busybox config, and have plans for a solution. I also intend to use this same concept for two othe

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] A note on selects vs. DEPENDS

2015-12-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi Felix, On 22/12/15 09:03 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2015-12-22 06:02, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi all, I just discovered something. It seems that in a package if you have a config section that does select PACKAGE_condition_dependency then the build succeeds but when you do opkg install

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] A note on selects vs. DEPENDS

2015-12-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 22/12/15 06:42 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi Felix, On 22/12/15 09:03 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2015-12-22 06:02, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi all, I just discovered something. It seems that in a package if you have a config section that does select PACKAGE_condition_dependency then the

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] A note on selects vs. DEPENDS

2015-12-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
AGE_tar). On 22/12/15 06:46 PM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2015-12-23 00:42, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi Felix, On 22/12/15 09:03 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2015-12-22 06:02, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi all, I just discovered something. It seems that in a package if you have a config section tha

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] base-files utils/busybox: Make requiring login in console default for easily accessed devices

2015-12-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
order of actions; and inittab comes from base-files which is last thing done in the packages Makefile). Regards, Daniel On 16/12/15 09:59 AM, open...@daniel.thecshore.com wrote: From: Daniel Dickinson Some devices like generic PC's and Raspberry Pi/Pi2 are much more trivial to get har

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] config: Add option to make crypto default when there is an config option for it

2015-12-23 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Erg, reversed the texts of the commit and the comment. Will resend so the commit message actually makes sense (but not tonight likely). Regards, Daniel On 23/12/15 03:16 AM, open...@daniel.thecshore.com wrote: From: Daniel Dickinson This patch it mostly for SDK builds since base packages

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] base-files utils/busybox: Make requiring login in console default for easily accessed devices

2015-12-23 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Actually once root password is set is unncessary. Busybox login with no password set allows passwordless login, so there is no issue. Regards, Daniel On 23/12/15 07:24 AM, John Crispin wrote: On 23/12/2015 13:05, Imre Kaloz wrote: Hi Daniel, On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 07:58:59 +0100, Daniel

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] base-files utils/busybox: Make requiring login in console default for easily accessed devices

2015-12-23 Thread Daniel Dickinson
serial device). Regards, Daniel On 23/12/15 07:05 AM, Imre Kaloz wrote: Hi Daniel, On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 07:58:59 +0100, Daniel Dickinson wrote: I am reworking this (requiring console login) as couple of packages for the packages feed, although it may require an image.mk or packages Makefile

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] base-files utils/busybox: Make requiring login in console default for easily accessed devices

2015-12-23 Thread Daniel Dickinson
58:59 +0100, Daniel Dickinson wrote: I am reworking this (requiring console login) as couple of packages for the packages feed, although it may require an image.mk or packages Makefile hook in order to embed an appropriate inittab into the image (since the inittab will need to be modified and we ne

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] base-files utils/busybox: Make requiring login in console default for easily accessed devices

2015-12-23 Thread Daniel Dickinson
who have no means of recovering from a bad flash. Regards, Daniel On 23/12/15 07:35 AM, John Crispin wrote: On 23/12/2015 13:32, Daniel Dickinson wrote: I'm inclined to make the opt-out an image generation time decision rather than configurable on the overlayfs for what I think a

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] base-files utils/busybox: Make requiring login in console default for easily accessed devices

2015-12-23 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 23/12/15 06:49 PM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2015-12-24 00:38, Imre Kaloz wrote: On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 17:27:37 +0100, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2015-12-23 16:27, Bastian Bittorf wrote: * Imre Kaloz [23.12.2015 16:22]: I'd hate to have some corner case result in bricked routers for people who

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] base-files image: Require login even on console (including failsafe)

2015-12-23 Thread Daniel Dickinson
I just noticed why failsafe was mounting root - I accidentally deleted the failsafe lock which blocks until login session is complete. Fixing now. On 24/12/15 01:31 AM, open...@daniel.thecshore.com wrote: From: Daniel Dickinson Passwordless root login is undesirable by default on any

[OpenWrt-Devel] Failsafe is not mounting root

2015-12-23 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I just thought I'd try to head of some confusion I may have caused because I thought failsafe was mounting root. The actual issue is that when I modified failsafe I accidentally delete the line that creates a lockfile that causes boot process to block when failsafe is entered (so tha

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] base-files utils/busybox: Make requiring login in console default for easily accessed devices

2015-12-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi Imre, On 23/12/15 07:05 AM, Imre Kaloz wrote: Hi Daniel, On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 07:58:59 +0100, Daniel Dickinson wrote: I am reworking this (requiring console login) as couple of packages for the packages feed, although it may require an image.mk or packages Makefile hook in order to embed

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH] base-files utils/busybox: Make requiring login in console default for easily accessed devices

2015-12-24 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Security is ultimately all about making it cost too much (of at least time, money, effort, requirements, social factors) to break in. Even so-called 'real' security vs. security in depth and security by obscurity is really on the same spectrum. That is why those who make bald statements about

[OpenWrt-Devel] Order of email arrival @ mailing list software results in bad threading in archive

2016-01-02 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi, Just in case you look at the mailing list archives, it appears that using git send-email for a patch series can screw up the mailing list software when messages arrive before the initial message that all other messages are made to be In-Reply-To. cf. my 14 patch build system enhancements

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH 12/14] target/sdk: Fix handling of already built packages

2016-01-03 Thread Daniel Dickinson
rnal common code, but see how it could easily get abused, in it's current form. Regards, Daniel On 03/01/16 09:51 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2016-01-03 07:03, open...@daniel.thecshore.com wrote: From: Daniel Dickinson When using SDK default to avoiding rebuilding packages previou

[OpenWrt-Devel] SDK vs. Toolchain+

2016-01-03 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi Felix, I think part of the confusion stems from the fact that the current SDK is not really an SDK but a 'Toolchain+'. Perhaps the current SDK should be renamed to clarify that point, and a 'real' SDK created. The current SDK is useless without ImageBuilder and/or package repositories. R

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] SDK vs. Toolchain+

2016-01-03 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 03/01/16 01:01 PM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2016-01-03 18:53, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi Felix, I think part of the confusion stems from the fact that the current SDK is not really an SDK but a 'Toolchain+'. Perhaps the current SDK should be renamed to clarify that point, and a

[OpenWrt-Devel] Probably a delay in further updates

2016-01-04 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, It'll probably be some time before I get further with the OpenWrt work for a few reasons: 1) Personal priorities. 2) Feeling rather discouraged about not having may game back as much as I had thought - the number of complaints (and phrasing thereof) about my patches combined with a p

[OpenWrt-Devel] configurable opkg repos patch not needed

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, The patch for allowing user to configure their own opkg repos is not as necessary once the 'flavour' configuration patch gets applied (although that will require reworking the patch series it's part of), because if you use the /%f as the tail of the configured packages path you get the

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] SDK vs. Toolchain+

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 04/01/16 05:40 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote: I'd like to suggest a simpler one, which is in line with the current naming in OpenWrt: The SDK is what builds software for an already running system. It doesn't have to build images, it doesn't have to be used to build full systems, it's just what you

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] SDK vs. Toolchain+

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 05/01/16 10:49 AM, Joris de Vries wrote: On 05 Jan 2016, at 16:04, Daniel Dickinson mailto:open...@daniel.thecshore.com>> wrote: am of two minds about how to deal with the issue that having to build the toolchain for an SDK before being able use the SDK is rather painful (or at le

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] SDK vs. Toolchain+

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 05/01/16 11:22 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: On 05/01/16 10:49 AM, Joris de Vries wrote: On 05 Jan 2016, at 16:04, Daniel Dickinson mailto:open...@daniel.thecshore.com>> wrote: am of two minds about how to deal with the issue that having to build the toolchain for an SDK before bein

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] SDK vs. Toolchain+

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 05/01/16 11:32 AM, Emmanuel Deloget wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Daniel Dickinson mailto:open...@daniel.thecshore.com>>wrote: On 05/01/16 11:22 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: It's actually target/linux that's the major issue when it comes to

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] SDK vs. Toolchain+

2016-01-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi, On 06/01/16 05:24 AM, Bastian Bittorf wrote: > * Daniel Dickinson [06.01.2016 11:11]: >> Not sure where you got those numbers. Did you also post the exact >> hardware and software configuration, and testing methodology, and how >> you did the timing and what numbers 14

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] SDK vs. Toolchain+

2016-01-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi Felix, Thank you for this! I will give it a whirl either before I head of to dreamland or tomorrow morning. Regards, Daniel On 06/01/16 01:39 PM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2016-01-06 17:52, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi, On 06/01/16 05:24 AM, Bastian Bittorf wrote: > * Daniel Dickin

[OpenWrt-Devel] Kudos to Felix (some interesting numbers for ar71xx)

2016-01-07 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I thought I would give you some numbers from my system before and afters Felix's changes, since they are such an awesome difference. First info about the the system: * 8-core AMD 4.0 GHz FX processor * 2 x ~500 MB/s SSD in RAID 1 configuration (and it was good thing too, due to a ca

[OpenWrt-Devel] Question Re: Sourceful SDK

2016-01-08 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi Felix, I've been thinking about the sourceful SDK and have some ideas on how to implement, I just want to clarify one point: Are you thinking the SDK should be like the buildroot where everything (including tools and toolchain) is built from source, or are you thinking tools and toolchain

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Question Re: Sourceful SDK

2016-01-08 Thread Daniel Dickinson
included flavour), in order to guarantee that the compilation produces identical libraries and such. Regards, Daniel On 08/01/16 03:14 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi Felix, I've been thinking about the sourceful SDK and have some ideas on how to implement, I just want to clarify one point: A

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Question Re: Sourceful SDK

2016-01-08 Thread Daniel Dickinson
olchain to also include relevant host tools, and not be strictly the compile toolchain. Regards, Daniel On 08/01/16 03:14 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi Felix, I've been thinking about the sourceful SDK and have some ideas on how to implement, I just want to clarify one point: Are you t

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Question Re: Sourceful SDK

2016-01-08 Thread Daniel Dickinson
nd it is automagically found and used if present) since we already know the name from the config options and usual naming rules. Regards, Daniel On 08/01/16 03:31 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Actually I've thought about the toolchain thing a little more and I have an idea: make it possib

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Question Re: Sourceful SDK

2016-01-08 Thread Daniel Dickinson
appropriate tarball. Regards, Daniel On 08/01/16 03:41 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Oh, can't ship tools - some them end up with hard-coded paths which is part of the problem. Still using an openwrt toolchain tarball would eliminate with what would be the lengthy part of a sourceful SDK build, an

[OpenWrt-Devel] Even better rebuild times coming

2016-01-08 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, I just thought I'd let you know that with some changes I am testing I have reduced the >7m rebuild 'real' time to 4m (and before Felix's work it was 14m for the same build). Basically I have a patch that let's you build a selected set of profiles instead either all or one. For target

[OpenWrt-Devel] Problem with commit to prevent SDK from altering kernel modules

2016-01-08 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi Felix, I think your latest commit will have an unexpected effect. It will come into play whenever CONFIG_SDK=y, which includes when *building* the SDK, not only when *in* the SDK. For my own SDK development I added config IN_SDK bool default y in target/sdk/files/Config.in so

[OpenWrt-Devel] Recent libtool to libltdl subdir name change

2016-01-09 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Hi all, There is a problem with the recent package rename from libtool to libltdl - it break a lot of packages in the packages feeds (or at least causes a great number of warnings; haven't tried ignoring the warning yet). The issue occurs because metadata.pm assumes that the subdirectory name

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Recent libtool to libltdl subdir name change

2016-01-09 Thread Daniel Dickinson
A fix might be to have scan.mk emit a new field Source-Package for .packageinfo from PKG_NAME and have metadata.pm use that source name instead of the subdir name. Regards, Daniel On 09/01/16 03:16 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Hi all, There is a problem with the recent package rename from

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH 1/1] include/autotools.mk: rename libtool to libltdl

2016-01-09 Thread Daniel Dickinson
KG_FIXUP:=libtool. Build dependencies for libtool are generated in autotools.mk. These have to be renamed to libltdl. CC: Daniel Dickinson CC: Felix Fietkau Signed-off-by: Heinrich Schuchardt --- include/autotools.mk | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/inclu

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH 1/1] include/autotools.mk: rename libtool to libltdl

2016-01-09 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Never mind, I'm confusing source package and binary package; I'm not sure which this particular use depends on. Regards, Daniel On 09/01/16 04:07 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: I do not believe this is the right fix: The PKG_NAME is libtool so the the package name should be found

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [PATCH 1/1] include/autotools.mk: rename libtool to libltdl

2016-01-09 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Actually it turns out I was right: This depends on 'source' package not binary package, therefore the patch I am verifying (doing a test SDK compile to verify nothing broke) is required. Regards, Daniel On 09/01/16 04:15 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Never mind, I'm confusing

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