Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-02-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > different domains so the translation team can prioritize them differently > (focusing on errors and warnings before debug messages, for example) [1]. > Some concerns wer

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-02-02 Thread Ying Chun Guo
o/China/IBM@IBMCN > > Subject > > Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations > > Okay, I think you've convinced me. Specific comments below. > -Ben > On 2014-01-29 07:05, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-02-01 Thread Łukasz Jernaś
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > +1 I've never understood this either personally. > > From what I know most all (correct me if I am wrong) open source projects > don't translate log messages; so it seems odd to be the special snowflake > project/s. > > Do people find this ty

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > Okay, I think you've convinced me. Specific comments below. > > -Ben > > On 2014-01-29 07:05, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > >> On 2014-01-27 11:42, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> We have a blue

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-29 Thread Ben Nemec
Okay, I think you've convinced me. Specific comments below. -Ben On 2014-01-29 07:05, Doug Hellmann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > > On 2014-01-27 11:42, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > diffe

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-01-27 11:42, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > different domains so the translation team can prioritize them differently > (focusing on errors and warnings before debug mess

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 05:58:20PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:42:28PM -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > > different domains so the translation team can prioritize them differently > > (focusing o

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-28 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-01-27 11:42, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > different domains so the translation team can prioritize them differently > (focusing on errors and warnings before debug messages, for example) [1]. > Some concerns were raise

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-28 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-01-27 14:12, CARVER, PAUL wrote: Jay Pipes wrote: Have you ever tried using Google Translate for anything more than very simple phrases? The results can be... well, interesting ;) And given the amount of technical terms used in these messages, I doubt GT or any automated translating

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread laserjetyang
I think it is a good approach for i18n team, since I don't think all log needs to be translated, and enterprise who needs i18n can take what ever they need to translate, and not all of them. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Daniel P.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Jay Pipes wrote: >Have you ever tried using Google Translate for anything more than very >simple phrases? >The results can be... well, interesting ;) And given the amount of >technical terms used in these messages, I doubt GT or any automated >translating service would provide a whole lot of valu

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 19:06 +, CARVER, PAUL wrote: > Joshua Harlow wrote: > >From what I know most all (correct me if I am wrong) open source projects > >don't translate log messages; so it seems odd to be the special snowflake > >project/s. > > >Do people find this type of translation useful?

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Joshua Harlow wrote: >From what I know most all (correct me if I am wrong) open source projects >don't translate log messages; so it seems odd to be the special snowflake >project/s. >Do people find this type of translation useful? >It'd be nice to know how many people really do so the benefit/dr

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:12:19PM -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daniel P. Berrange < > berra...@redhat.com>wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:42:28PM -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > We ha

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:12:19PM -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daniel P. Berrange > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:42:28PM -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > > > different domains so

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread Joshua Harlow
+1 I've never understood this either personally. >From what I know most all (correct me if I am wrong) open source projects don't translate log messages; so it seems odd to be the special snowflake project/s. Do people find this type of translation useful? It'd be nice to know how many people re

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:42:28PM -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > > different domains so the translation team can prioritize them differently > > (focusing on error

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:42:28PM -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > different domains so the translation team can prioritize them differently > (focusing on errors and warnings before debug messages, for example) [1]. > Feedback?