On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Joshua Harlow <harlo...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote: > +1 I've never understood this either personally. > > From what I know most all (correct me if I am wrong) open source projects > don't translate log messages; so it seems odd to be the special snowflake > project/s. > > Do people find this type of translation useful?
Argh, that dreaded topic again, so let me drop my 2 euro cents here. As for the open source/free software projects you're right - personally, I've never seen any such project translating log messages. But it seems in the commercial world it's more common, as I've seen some user applications break on translated error messages in a certain database system, but in such cases those systems usually had additional codes (eg, ERR1234) with these messages so support didn't have to really care about what language they were in. The problem from my point of view is that OpenStack doesn't provide these codes (it would be a nightmare to require each developer to register their log message first), so it seems that certain (whose names I don't really know) support staff rely on the translated strings and even worse some of these strings are presented to the user in the form of exceptions (as seen in this thread). Not to mention the ability to break log watching tools with updated translations, making people's monitoring break if they didn't launch the daemons with LC_ALL=C set... Best regards, -- Łukasz [DeeJay1] Jernaś _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
